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NRL Clubs compared to businesses are different. If you are unable to distinguish between the two, that’s a matter for you.

You can make unnecessary and unkind inferences about me personally, but it tends to portray you quite poorly and you are speculating.

I’m just presenting facts and that is that a members email has been ignored and along with it, an opportunity for a nrlw player to be sponsored.

It’s a personal experience I’m sharing with the forum.
sure is some touchy people here ,ay TSP
 
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I can't remember who it was that was adamant that a football clubs yearly profit was not important to winning or losing?

One can't exist without the other.
Are you referring to me because if so you have comprehension skills and shouldn't throw stones with an intellect that rivals a corn husk.
 
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Yeah I guess my question is how many clubs are at break even
I think in the past from memory ( pre Dolphins and pre Covid ) there was 4 or 5 clubs
That would explain the constant disparity between the clubs happy. The clubs at the top have ample funding and ways of generating income, while the rest play to generate enough to stay afloat.
 
To be fair, how much money does the dogs club make in comparison to the HBG?? Otherwise it’s a useless, unfair comparison, just cherry picking the numbers that suit your agenda! E. G. Dogs club makes 30 million profit per year, it’s easy to give 7 million across.
If the Leagues clubs were businesses like any other lathami I would totally agree with you. My mistake was thinking that HBG was a not for profit. All I can find is it is a Limited company, where as Canterbury Leagues club is a not for profit, perhaps that may explain the difference in the amount given to the football clubs.
 
If the Leagues clubs were businesses like any other lathami I would totally agree with you. My mistake was thinking that HBG was a not for profit. All I can find is it is a Limited company, where as Canterbury Leagues club is a not for profit, perhaps that may explain the difference in the amount given to the football clubs.
I read the constitution differently. My interpretation is that HBG is not for profit. From the constitution:

The income and property of the Club howsoever derived shall be applied solely towards the promotion of the objectives of the Club as set forth in this Constitution and no portion thereof shall be paid or transferred directly or indirectly by way of dividend, bonus orotherwise by way of profit to the members of the Club.

There are plenty of objectives set out inthe onstitution but the two main ones are:
  • To provide for members and members' guests a social and sporting Club with allt he usual facilities of a Club including residential and other accommodation liquid and other refreshment libraries and provision for sporting, musical and educational activities and other social amenities.
  • To assist generally in the promotion conduct and propagation of Rugby League football in the Rugby League Football District of the Western Suburbs of Sydney, or elsewhere, and to provide or assist in the provision of training and conditioning and teaching facilities for football played in accordance with the rules of the New South Wales Rugby Football League.
 
Back to the club nrlw sponsorship scandal, where our club ignores members emails and as a result loses sponsorship opportunities.


Roosters Rogered!

The latest is that the roosters have also failed to respond as they so undertook.

So I’ll let them know on Monday that the deal is off.

I might post my email pulling out of the deal here.

The question is whether or not it’s better not to respond or respond promising something and then failing to follow through?

The outcome is the same, but the process is different. Why would you promise something then don’t deliver? Why get people’s hopes up?
 
I read the constitution differently. My interpretation is that HBG is not for profit. From the constitution:

The income and property of the Club howsoever derived shall be applied solely towards the promotion of the objectives of the Club as set forth in this Constitution and no portion thereof shall be paid or transferred directly or indirectly by way of dividend, bonus orotherwise by way of profit to the members of the Club.

There are plenty of objectives set out inthe onstitution but the two main ones are:
  • To provide for members and members' guests a social and sporting Club with allt he usual facilities of a Club including residential and other accommodation liquid and other refreshment libraries and provision for sporting, musical and educational activities and other social amenities.
  • To assist generally in the promotion conduct and propagation of Rugby League football in the Rugby League Football District of the Western Suburbs of Sydney, or elsewhere, and to provide or assist in the provision of training and conditioning and teaching facilities for football played in accordance with the rules of the New South Wales Rugby Football League.
That's what I thought, I remember you posting it elsewhere. I'll see if I can dig up where I saw it as a Limited company, no doubt you'll be able to explain it to me Jolls, Iv got no idea about corporate or business structures.
 
Back to the club nrlw sponsorship scandal, where our club ignores members emails and as a result loses sponsorship opportunities.


Roosters Rogered!

The latest is that the roosters have also failed to respond as they so undertook.

So I’ll let them know on Monday that the deal is off.

I might post my email pulling out of the deal here.

The question is whether or not it’s better not to respond or respond promising something and then failing to follow through?

The outcome is the same, but the process is different. Why would you promise something then don’t deliver? Why get people’s hopes up?
Why the hell wouldn't a club bend over backwards for a sponsorship being handed over on a silver platter. It's mind boggling.
 
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I read the constitution differently. My interpretation is that HBG is not for profit. From the constitution:

The income and property of the Club howsoever derived shall be applied solely towards the promotion of the objectives of the Club as set forth in this Constitution and no portion thereof shall be paid or transferred directly or indirectly by way of dividend, bonus orotherwise by way of profit to the members of the Club.

There are plenty of objectives set out inthe onstitution but the two main ones are:
  • To provide for members and members' guests a social and sporting Club with allt he usual facilities of a Club including residential and other accommodation liquid and other refreshment libraries and provision for sporting, musical and educational activities and other social amenities.
  • To assist generally in the promotion conduct and propagation of Rugby League football in the Rugby League Football District of the Western Suburbs of Sydney, or elsewhere, and to provide or assist in the provision of training and conditioning and teaching facilities for football played in accordance with the rules of the New South Wales Rugby Football League.
This is where I assumed it was a Limited company. Iv no doubt I'm probarbly misunderstanding something about how the set up works. Any chance you could explain how you think it works Jolls, cause it all goes way above my head.
 

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Canterbury Leagues had $98m in Revenue in 2024, with $6m profit.

HBG had $87m in Revenue with $7m profit.
I understand that the latest review made the WT board independent, which I guess is good because it distances us from HBG.

However, what incentive does HBG have by putting more money into WT if they're not going to be able to earn any profits of it?

Do you think WT can survive independently? We already generate the least revenue of any clubs and also invest the least? The owners have been given the opportunity to wash their hands off us in the last review.

Are we just hoping Richo can magically get sponsors and increase our revenue? With my very limited knowledge, I just don't see any sustainability here..
 
Back to the club nrlw sponsorship scandal, where our club ignores members emails and as a result loses sponsorship opportunities.


Roosters Rogered!

The latest is that the roosters have also failed to respond as they so undertook.

So I’ll let them know on Monday that the deal is off.

I might post my email pulling out of the deal here.

The question is whether or not it’s better not to respond or respond promising something and then failing to follow through?

The outcome is the same, but the process is different. Why would you promise something then don’t deliver? Why get people’s hopes up?
They didn't reply to your email and aren't entitled to, no matter how good you think your offer is. There are many ways to support the club and while it may hurt that one of your proposed ways has not been received the way you hope, try again. Don't wallow in the rejection and bring us down with you.
 
I understand that the latest review made the WT board independent, which I guess is good because it distances us from HBG.

However, what incentive does HBG have by putting more money into WT if they're not going to be able to earn any profits of it?

Do you think WT can survive independently? We already generate the least revenue of any clubs and also invest the least? The owners have been given the opportunity to wash their hands off us in the last review.

Are we just hoping Richo can magically get sponsors and increase our revenue? With my very limited knowledge, I just don't see any sustainability here..

They were last in 2024 as per the recent article… not a lot behind some others like the Sharks … rumour has it with increased sponsorships and perhaps some other factors , they might have gotten off the bottom in 2025 .., but if they come 15th instead of 17th …probably doesn’t move the needle much …
 
They were last in 2024 as per the recent article… not a lot behind some others like the Sharks … rumour has it with increased sponsorships and perhaps some other factors , they might have gotten off the bottom in 2025 .., but if they come 15th instead of 17th …probably doesn’t move the needle much …
Our junior base is a lot bigger though. Sharks, Manly, Canterbury and Roosters I believe have very tiny junior bases so require less money.

We have teams all across Andrew Johns Cup, Laurie Daley cup etc.. and have many more junior clubs too.
 
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