hank37w
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He's already got Kyle.Apparently the Dragons are gonna go really hard for Tino. I think Flanagan is desperate for an out and out marquee player.
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He's already got Kyle.Apparently the Dragons are gonna go really hard for Tino. I think Flanagan is desperate for an out and out marquee player.
I agree with what you are saying.There's a place for stoicism, and it can be a great trait to have, but the emphasis on it above all else, the numerous biological, environmental and societal factors that contribute to severe mental health, can become counterproductive.
If someone with major depression and suicidality is implicitly told they simply arent stoic enough, it can perpetuate the mental health problems. This is where the poster is correct. Social support, counselling, support putting a roof over their head, medication etc. may be more helpful for that individual.
Another point is that people might need assistance in changing ingrained perceptions of the world to become more stoic. It doesnt come innately to everyone, and not everyone can read Meditations. This can only happen when mental health is destigmatised so they feel like they can ask for help.
Not if you keep your head down... 😉If you got pegged while packing in the scrum in the lock position, would you get penalised for having too many in the scrum.
I kinda think we should do the same and we have done the same.Apparently the Dragons are gonna go really hard for Tino. I think Flanagan is desperate for an out and out marquee player.
Like I say, I never had to bend over and sniff butts when I played so I don't know what the forwards get up to in their spare timeIf you got pegged while packing in the scrum in the lock position, would you get penalised for having too many in the scrum.
You CANNOT pay a front rower 1mil a year . Actually you can , if you strike gold and say , have one of the best kids in the world on a 500k contract . Otherwise you’re like Cronulla and have to release your backup middles .I kinda think we should do the same and we have done the same.
Your 1m Players seem to play far far better then your 800k players.
i.e.
Latrell Mitchell, in a sinking souths side has been playing the house down.
Your DCE, Jerome Hugues's,
Your Payne Haas, Tino's (maybe), A few years ago I would say Addin Fonua blake... They add way more to the game and that's obviously why they get the big bucks.
Heck it's why Luai and Api were the right decisions for us. Top shelf players.
Getting higher quality players seems to impart better skills, better standards.. i.e. 1x 1.2m forward is better then 2x 600k forwards. Also its easier for a fringe grader to be a first grader then for a first grader to be a top shelf player.
I'm surprised to read negative comments abt signing Tino and Richo has stated he wouldn't pay a mil.for a middle he also was going to give Galvin a mil , but I think he's exactly what we need. Would fit in the culture of the club and I've heard from a trainer he's a massive leader at training just by his actions. Would bring plenty to our team.I’d be happy to give the mill we allocated for Galvin to Tino
Neither. Payne Haas is the only one worth $1million.I'm surprised to read negative comments abt signing Tino and Richo has stated he wouldn't pay a mil.for a middle he also was going to give Galvin a mil , but I think he's exactly what we need. Would fit in the culture of the club and I've heard from a trainer he's a massive leader at training just by his actions. Would bring plenty to our team.
Get it done Richo.
If you had a mil who would you have Galvin or Tino ?
Agreed.You CANNOT pay a front rower 1mil a year . Actually you can , if you strike gold and say , have one of the best kids in the world on a 500k contract . Otherwise you’re like Cronulla and have to release your backup middles .
Tino is NOT worth that . I don’t think he ever was . I think it would be crazy. There’s giant middles out there , toiling in teams waiting for a chance . We just have to be open minded , and clever with our recruitment . Il
Not bargain bin shopping ,but more like tech shopping at an expo for new tech. They’re out there . Regurgitating failed middles from failed clubs cannot be the answer . As much as I rate Tino . I don’t think he’s worth above 800k . Despite the market saying otherwise .
Terrell May came to be the forward leader. If you paid another player more than him in the same position to do think he would want more money? I’d prefer 2x Terrell May’s than 1 x TinoI kinda think we should do the same and we have done the same.
Your 1m Players seem to play far far better then your 800k players.
i.e.
Latrell Mitchell, in a sinking souths side has been playing the house down.
Your DCE, Jerome Hugues's,
Your Payne Haas, Tino's (maybe), A few years ago I would say Addin Fonua blake... They add way more to the game and that's obviously why they get the big bucks.
Heck it's why Luai and Api were the right decisions for us. Top shelf players.
Getting higher quality players seems to impart better skills, better standards.. i.e. 1x 1.2m forward is better then 2x 600k forwards. Also its easier for a fringe grader to be a first grader then for a first grader to be a top shelf player.
It’s because middles are the running backs of the nrl . They are extremely vital , but they take a battering, and thier careers fall off a cliff . Look at klemmer he’s just turned 30 and it’s over . This guy was once the best prop in the game and it wasn’t even close . And his starting prop best mate in those years . Retired barely getting a game for Blacktown . He was 31 .I'm surprised to read negative comments abt signing Tino and Richo has stated he wouldn't pay a mil.for a middle he also was going to give Galvin a mil , but I think he's exactly what we need. Would fit in the culture of the club and I've heard from a trainer he's a massive leader at training just by his actions. Would bring plenty to our team.
Get it done Richo.
If you had a mil who would you have Galvin or Tino ?
Definitely a backrower, his skillset is perfect for an edge backrower. He is super strong in contact, breaks tackles and is super agile. He does not suit the middle at all, he is very powerful but doesnt have the frame of a middle. Hes more likely to play centre than in the middle.Probably more appropriate for the pathways thread but what are everyone's thoughts on Pheonix Godinet's long-term position.
Obviously has been a revelation in pathways & schoolboys as a right edge backrower. But with his skillset (as highlighted today in the schoolboys cup), could he become just as good a ball playing lock?
One day , almost overnight , he won’t be . His knees will go , he will start to break down , and it will all end really quickly . My guess around the time he’s 28.Neither. Payne Haas is the only one worth $1million.
Tino is nothing like peak Taumololo.One day , almost overnight , he won’t be . His knees will go , he will start to break down , and it will all end really quickly . My guess around the time he’s 28.
This next contract should come big giant buyer beware sign . He will get his 1.2-1.3mil because he deserves it , but much like NQ right now with JT , they will be counting down the days until that albatross is no longer hanging on their neck . And he has next to no injury issues .
The Tino contract will look horrible as early as 2027 imo . And will look downright malpractice by 2030 . I pray that’s not us who get sucked into that .
Which should make everyone absolutely terrified of giving him 1 mil a season @26 for 5 plays years .Tino is nothing like peak Taumololo.
Tino looks like Tarzan and plays like Jane. Pathetic. Don’t get why people rate him. He’s never done anything where I’ve been overwhelmed.
He might get me whelmed max.
Props are now the third highest paid position in the NRL, so it doesn't seem like the NRL clubs agree with the idea that Haas is the only one worth 1million.Neither. Payne Haas is the only one worth $1million.
Great summary….he sound like a real prospect…..but sadly his manager is non other than Issac Moses, so we know how his NRL future will pan out….he won’t stay a WT…as soon as he shows his potential in the NRL….its to the Dogs, Storm, Roosters or ManlyDefinitely a backrower, his skillset is perfect for an edge backrower. He is super strong in contact, breaks tackles and is super agile. He does not suit the middle at all, he is very powerful but doesnt have the frame of a middle. Hes more likely to play centre than in the middle.
He has also always played on the edge, moving him to a position hes never played would just slow his development and hinder his growth as a player. He's a potential 10/10 backrower, no need to even consider moving him to any other position.
He is the type of edge back rower you want running at opposition halves or running line balls. He also has the skill to set up outside backs. He reminds me of Angus Crichton a little bit.
Why go to Perth for an extra $300k….he won’t go there…..Not sure if it’s already been stated, but Tino is already getting paid 1.2 million per season by the Titans, is rumoured to being offered 1.5 million per season by Perth Bears and somewhere close to that by the Dragons.
This being the case we would need to offer him up around 1.3 to 1.4 million per season to even get his attention.
As a few others have mentioned, he’s a very good player, but simply not worth that type of money to us.
We no doubt need one more good standard middle to add genuine competition for NRL positions, but we need to be strategic about who we look to sign.