No to Klemmer. Yes to Bateman and Sullivan. Could only speculate as to how much.
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We are not paying anything for Klemmer, Bateman we are paying for in 2026, Bud we are paying for in 2026 and 2027, so our salary cap is abit iffy in 2026 but it's looking good from 2027 onwards. If we don't make the 8 in 2027 then it's a fail in my opinion.
The signing of Bateman by Sheens is his worse signing ever,even more so than his Blair and Anasta signings.I will always be thankful for 2005 but you can't live on that forever.
liltiger
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Sullivan took a 100k paycut to remain at souths so not sure if that comes from ours or their end.
This makes me start thinking about who the outright worst signing since 2012 might be. There are an awful lot of contenders, but my shortlist is:
Adam Blair
Probably the player we got most out of on this list, in the sense that he was at least a functional first grade standard footballer. It's what he represents that gets him in the list: the beginning of the realisation that the 2010-11 window was the end of something not the start. After the injuries to Dwyer and Lawrence, and to a lesser extent Moltzen, and with Ellis and Tuqiri increasingly injury prone, it was critical that we signed well to maintain momentum. Maybe if we had we could have built a bridge to the next generation. Maybe then we'd have kept at least one of Moses or Tedesco and had something to build around. Instead we got this clown.
Braith Anasta
And also this one. He gets a tick up for at least being cheap, but a massive tick down for being the most aggressive post-exit shitter on the club. I'm sorry you had to bring your own tape and Gatorade, princess. Perhaps if you'd bothered to have a look round before taking the money offered you'd have realised that there was a job of work involved that you were going to consider beneath you. If he's not the worst signing of the lot he's certainly the most pea hearted.
Matt Ballin
I know I'm meant to preface this with the inevitable "not his fault, but..." but seriously, f- Matt Ballin. I don't care how great a clubman he was at Manly - he did dick for the Tigers except help the worst coach in living memory force out our second greatest player of all time. In return for which we got three games in two years and desperate attempts to defend Matt McIlwrick as a legitimate first-grade hooker.
Josh Reynolds
I could more or less repeat the first sentence above. One in a long line of effort players who was going to turn round the club's culture single handed yet mysteriously arrive and suck up a healthy pay cheque while either barely getting on the park or being completely anonymous. The really embarrassing thing about Reynolds is that everyone with any sense knew in advance that signing him for four years on top dollar was a dreadful idea. He premiered what's now known as the "Isaiah Papali'i Gambit", ie making it pretty clear after signing for us that he didn't really want to leave his previous club and was only doing so for the money, then doing nothing to justify that money. 7.1 games a season for three years.
Chris McQueen/Russell Packer joint award
Impossible to separate this pair of oxygen thieves. Proof positive that just because a club has some cap room for the first time in half a decade doesn't necessarily mean there will be players on the market that cap money would be well used on. Packer averaged eight games a year for the Tigers, comfortably ahead of McQueen's three, but I don't think I can remember two things the pair of them did on the field between them. We might as well have given the money to Tim Simona and asked him to pick up some sporting merchandise.
BJ "Joseph" Leilua
On the up side, I only had to spend about 20 minutes trying to pretend I didn't think this prick was a waste of skin.
Oliver Gildart
Would be up there with Anasta as a post-Tigers moaner except no-one on earth cares what Oliver Gildart has to say about anything. His mum probably keeps him on read.
John Bateman
If not the worst signing, certainly the one that absolutely everyone knew was a bad idea before it happened (feel free to search my post history if you like - I hated this signing at the time and absolutely everything I said about it came to pass). Giving a nearly 30 year old small back row forward with a history of shoulder injuries and a bad attitude a four year deal is about as close to gross negligence as an NRL head coach and administration can get.
There are plenty of other poor signings that don't quite rise to this level as they were either for relatively little money (Zane Musgrove, Robert Jennings, Robbie Rochow), at least didn't hurt us for very long (Ryan Matterson, Eddy Pettybourne, Moses Suli) or where I feel they did just about enough on the field not to rise to this level of grim (Ben Matulino, Joel Reddy, James Tamou). Interested to hear if anyone thinks any others reach hall of fame level.
For Sullivan we paid 100k and he took a 100k cut so Souths saved 200k.
diedpretty
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How weird that players can choose where they want to live and not be bound to live where their team is based. You could have players all over the world. How do they train with the team. Or get to games.
Packer knocked out Matterson though so that counts for something…
Tally up another slap from a non believer. I think an all-encompassing cap spent on players, 3rd parties ,administration ,coaches , clinics etc etc and policed harshly would benefit the game over all ,then propping up dumb club management and forcing players to be a transportable commodity.
I 4 1 would not stand for it in my work space.
crazycat
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I really hate not knowing if a player is carrying an injury, but playing... Or just crap.
Honestly would like to know. Hate laying into a guy who's hobbling and doing his best.
Tiger Tarl
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Even 2 years on $400k (what he is reportedly on at Storm) wouldn't be terrible business. Fit, strong defender, from a good system and just out of a grand final -- plus he's 195cm. Would partner May well or off the bench. Imagine him and a renewed Hunt on the field at the same time...I’d take Tui on slightly more than minimum…
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GNR4LIFE
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McQueen broke his neck, literally a week after we signed him. He never recovered from that.
This guy picked up quite the following in the off season leading up to his first season. Almost as unwarranted as the following John Grant acquired back in the day for having a flashy YT highlight video.
crazycat
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Tui would be a good pickup, however he seems to be a reserve forward for the storm.
We picked up Hunt that kind of player from the Sharks, and Hunt clearly doesn't want to do anything else but be a reserve forward. As long as Tui steps up, he would be a good signing.
TopTiger
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Tui & Twal would spend too much time admiring each other's physique during training sessions!!
crazycat
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Tim Grant or John Grant.
Oh wait, both were pretty useless. John Grant near unmemorable.
Particularly in the backline, we need solid people in Center/wing even if we pay overs. Signing these flashy players on "potential" just hasn't worked for us, ever.
GNR4LIFE
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John Grant never played first grade, so a bit N/A. I thought Tim went alright. Signed at a time we virtually had no cap space due to wonderfully back ended contracts.
Tom Shines
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No … we don’t know as these details don’t get released by Richo
Wrong. He had neck surgery in August 2017, ending his season... for the Gold Coast Titans. We subsequently signed him on a three year deal. He spent the first 10 rounds of 2018 playing reserve grade for the Tigers before making the first of his 10 total first grade appearances in round 11. Absolutely shocking signing.
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