Will you be attending the Save the Wests Tigers March?

[Tom Shines]

Pretty sure that is why they want a bigger say on the board though- because they are doing most of the funding (not grants etc) than the other side of the JV.

They have a bigger say than the other side ….always have since they became the majority owners …

I don’t know what the board representation has to do with removing kids funding though because they were criticised by a third party ?

 

[LiverpoolTiger]

Part of the criticism is they supposedly don’t like the Balmain side of the merger, don’t care, don’t spend any money and do nothing to help.
Funding the Balmain junior reps contradicts those beliefs.

And it's funny I've heard a nonsensical idea about a return to the Wests Magpies by Wests Ashfield.

But if this is so how come they are funding a multi million dollar development at Rozelle for a new Wests Tigers club?

Doesn't add up.

Vlandys ' would've considered all of this.

 

[Merlot]

He may have a case to answer.

shame if he does. its what good clubs do , im very interested in the numbers he fed to his family

 

[Tom Shines]

Part of the criticism is they supposedly don’t like the Balmain side of the merger, don’t care, don’t spend any money and do nothing to help.
Funding the Balmain junior reps contradicts those beliefs.

The criticism of others not affiliated with the Balmain juniors …so why should these kids be punished ?

 

[LiverpoolTiger]

shame if he does. its what good clubs do , im very interested in the numbers he fed to his family

We plebs will never know.

 

[The Chad]

They have a bigger say than the other side ….always have since they became the majority owners …

I don’t know what the board representatives have to do with removing kids funding though because they were criticised by a third party ?

That's skipped ahead a few steps to that point. I think it's potentially one of the roots of the problem.

Now there are rallies to remove them.

I think what Viscous is suggesting is, if they are continually 'disrespected' in their eyes, they might just stop propping up the Balmain side of things all together. They are not under any obligation to do so.

Balmain, and the poor governance that got them into the position that only gives them a token 10% share gifted to them to maintain a JV status- are not being criticised at all for getting the Wests Tigers club into a position where Wests/HBG have the opportunity to have such a large controlling stake.

 

[Vicious]

The criticism of others not affiliated with the Balmain juniors …so why should they be punished ?

Because if they continue to be made out to be villains who dont like the Balmain side of the merger, don’t care, don’t spend any money to assist Wests Tigers and don’t do anything to help,
If thst ideology doesn’t change, Why would they bother to keep funding teams they are not obliged to fund, but only do it for the good of Wests Tigers ?

 

[balmain boy]

So who will find it if it doesn’t come from Wests Ashfield ?
Would you be happy if there was no more Balmain junior reps ? I know I wouldn’t be as it I know what it means tj the young kids who play reugby league in the Balmain junior district, but if HBG co tiniest get criticised for everything decosionbthe make, why would they bother continuing to help ?

What do they want for doing their job? A medal? They're making very small investments into our minor rep sides. Much smaller than many other clubs and you think may even consider cutting even more funding. And that Wests Ashfield may think that weakening the clubs pathways, rather than strengthening them may be the course of action they take?
Which would once again prove they do not have people capable of running a professional club. It might even expedite this process. Time to piss or get off the can!

 

[Tom Shines]

That's skipped ahead a few steps to that point. I think it's potentially one of the roots of the problem.

Now there are rallies to remove them.

I think what Viscous is suggesting is, if they are continually 'disrespected' in their eyes, they might just stop propping up the Balmain side of things all together. They are not under any obligation to do so.

Balmain, and the poor governance that got them into the position that only gives them a token 10% share gifted to them to maintain a JV status- are not being criticised at all for getting the Wests Tigers club into a position where Wests/HBG have the opportunity to have such a large controlling stake.

Mate .,I’m a fan on the Wests Tigers …what happens to Balmain juniors is not my concern .., but I don’t get why kids should be being punished in this shit fight ..

Because if they continue to be made out to be villains who dont like the Balmain side of the merger, don’t care, don’t spend any money to assist Wests Tigers and don’t do anything to help,
If thst ideology doesn’t change, Why would they bother to keep funding teams they are not obliged to fund, but only do it for the good of Wests Tigers ?

So someone unaffiliated makes them out as villains …let’s punish some random kids? Ok…

 

[LiverpoolTiger]

How could HBG have been bypassed when they were on the board? Or were they asleep, failing to show up to meetings or too busy on instagran and not paying attention to what was being discussed?

You seem to make many assumptions.

Apparently they were at all meetings and everything was unanimous so it is reasonable to deduce that Shane or a sub committee withheld information.

Vlandys actions seem to show that they had cause but acted with unnecessary haste.

Pop reckons off ramps were left open.

Charlie and Shane may be in error.

 

[hammertime]

It’s highly likely they will strongly consider cutting any funding they are not required to do if there is a continued push to remove them, rather than to have better people involved and get better.

Because the money that your talking about, isn't the directors money. Your collecting it from members in croyden and markets (and soon rozelle!) who are parents or family who like to see the money go into local leagues clubs.

You compared it to Darcy or Blocker putting their hands in their pockets.

This is what people can't get through their thick heads. It's a members club, the directors do not own it. They are there for the communities they serve.

 

[Vicious]

What do they want for doing their job? A medal? They're making very small investments into our minor rep sides. Much smaller than many other clubs and you think may even consider cutting even more funding. And that Wests Ashfield may think that weakening the clubs pathways, rather than strengthening them may be the course of action they take?
Which would once again prove they do not have people capable of running a professional club. It might even expedite this process. Time to piss or get off the can!

The funding keeps the Balmain junior reps alive, do you not understand that ?
You better than anyone should understand how important it is for the Balmain junior reps to continue.
But you want to totally remove the same people that find the teams you support and enjoy watching play each season.
Yes you can be unhappy with a lot of decisions they make, but to say they don’t care, don’t do anything to help and need to be removed without being given an opportunity to make better decisions and do things better is harsh when you know they do things that are help and are in the best interests of Wests Tigers such as funding the Balmain junior reps.

 

[LiverpoolTiger]

What do they want for doing their job? A medal? They're making very small investments into our minor rep sides. Much smaller than many other clubs and you think may even consider cutting even more funding. And that Wests Ashfield may think that weakening the clubs pathways, rather than strengthening them may be the course of action they take?
Which would once again prove they do not have people capable of running a professional club. It might even expedite this process. Time to piss or get off the can!

Pop also mentioned that Wests Ashfield pumped 15 million to save Balmain and now a further multi million dollar investment to rebuild Rozelle hence why grants are smaller than could be.

Their actions don't seem consistent of a party that wants to eliminate their partner.

 

[The Chad]

Mate .,I’m a fan on the Wests Tigers …what happens to Balmain juniors is not my concern .., but I don’t get why kids are being punished in this shit fight ..



So they are made out as villains ..slet’s punish some random kids? Ok

I get that mate- but because of the way the club is set up, it's not as simple as "everything is Wests Tigers".

In theory, it should be.

But because 1 side of the JV is now propping up the other side, there's now a business/financial aspect to be considered- because it's not longer an even split on responsibilities.

And when the larger contributor feels like they need to take more control of the Wests Tigers board because they feel deals (business deals) are being done without enough consultation with the lead financier & major share holder- there's push back from fans of the JV.

Fans are the unlucky victims.

We are only in this position because one of the partners in the marriage isn't paying their share of the child support. So the one doing the paying wants more say in where the kids go to school as a result.

 

[cochise]

Pretty sure that is why they want a bigger say on the board though- because they are doing most of the funding (not grants etc) than the other side of the JV.

Wests Tigers largely funds itself, HBG puts in the bare minimum.

 

[cochise]

Part of the criticism is they supposedly don’t like the Balmain side of the merger, don’t care, don’t spend any money and do nothing to help.
Funding the Balmain junior reps contradicts those beliefs.

The rally had nothing to do with Balmain.

 

[Vicious]

Mate .,I’m a fan on the Wests Tigers …what happens to Balmain juniors is not my concern .., but I don’t get why kids should be being punished in this shit fight ..



So someone unaffiliated makes them out as villains …let’s punish some random kids? Ok…

They quite obviously only fund the Balmain junior reps to do the right thing by Wests Tigers, surely you understand that ?
Balmain junior reps are an important part of Wests Tigers pathways.

 

[hammertime]

The funding keeps the Balmain junior reps alive, do you not understand that ?
You better than anyone should understand how important it is for the Balmain junior reps to continue.
But you want to totally remove the same people that find the teams you support and enjoy watching play each season.
Yes you can be unhappy with a lot of decisions they make, but to say they don’t care, don’t do anything to help and need to be removed without being given an opportunity to make better decisions and do things better is harsh when you know they do things that are help and are in the best interests of Wests Tigers such as funding the Balmain junior reps.

You'd need to take down all the balmain logos across the club, potentially WT logo too as it would be akin to misleading advertising. People are turning up expecting their payments are going to support the local foundation clubs. That's what leagues clubs are.

Everything collected so far has been given on that assumption. Especially from heavy balmain geographical areas. Id suspect you'd need to start removing logos first and leave for quite a few years, before you cut it.

 

[cochise]

And it's funny I've heard a nonsensical idea about a return to the Wests Magpies by Wests Ashfield.

But if this is so how come they are funding a multi million dollar development at Rozelle for a new Wests Tigers club?

Doesn't add up.

Vlandys ' would've considered all of this.

They aren't funding a multi million dollar development, they will operate a leagues club on the premises and pull in further pokies money.

 

[Merlot]

And it's funny I've heard a nonsensical idea about a return to the Wests Magpies by Wests Ashfield.

But if this is so how come they are funding a multi million dollar development at Rozelle for a new Wests Tigers club?

Doesn't add up.

Vlandys ' would've considered all of this.

Campbelltown ,is our future , Ashfield liked/or did, accruing assest . So

private buyer 56% , 45%
supporter based with voting rights.
A good guy / buyout owner ,would
Macarthur District should /could where they have some skin in the game
google says Lidcombe to Leichardt is 8 mins 3'7 ks away
other way 40 mins ,45.3 kms away ,
could it be that simple n dumb