Bondi Mass Shooting

[pawsandclaws1]

The shooters were from Pakistan, south Asia.

Not the middle east.

The man who wrestled the gunman and disarmed him is Muslim. An act of unprecedented bravery which I am sure will be lost in the outpouring of blame.

 

[Jim Halpert]

The shooters were from Pakistan, south Asia.

Not the middle east.

The hero that tackled and disarmed the gunman has a middle eastern name

 

[Jim Halpert]

Do we have to perpetually separate people into groups?
That's what keeps this rubbish going.
Two murderous mutant humans killed 16 Australians.
That's how I see it.

 

[Demps]

Do we have to perpetually separate people into groups?
That's what keeps this rubbish going.
Two murderous mutant humans killed 16 Australians.
That's how I see it.

It's a disgrace ey.
Disgusted by this.

I opened a few posts on social media & read through the comments.

There seems to be a lot of Indians posting about how much they hate Pakistan [there is a lot of history between these two countries] as well as people say deport them back to Syria [they aren't from there]

Don't let race or religion divide us, this is inhumane behaviour by sick individuals.

 

[bptiger 0]

At a guess, I would say YES, but then again, the fruit shop owner from Sutherland that everyone is hailing as a hero (and rightly so) is probably a Muslim as well.

Yes that bloke who I guess is a Muslim ( from his name ) he should receive the highest reward for bravery, just shows that all Muslims don’t want to kill Jews or others , BIG thanks to that man

 

[pawsandclaws1]

Lots of comments deleted in this thread, I guess it's a pro Muslim person trying to protect there community like the rest of them on social media, anyone surprised?

I am pro-Australian reeling at the shock of other Australians killed while participating in a celebration of their faith. Another Australian in an act of bravery has saved the lives of more potential victims. Hopefully our security agencies and police will uncover the truth and make arrests if evidence supports it.

 

[MountainMan]

The capacity for love, mercy, selflessness and heroism is part of the human condition but sadly so is the capacity for senseless violence. A very small percentage of the Islamic community has shown itself capable of being radicalised, but as we have seen with the murder of police in Victoria and some years ago in Queensland and with neo-Nazi rallies, so are other sections of the Australian community. The 2019 Christchurch Mosque massacre which took the lives of 51 Muslims was committed by a white Australian. We should all condemn violence and hatred but not target a particular race or religion. It is time to come together as a community.

 

[weststigers]

The man who wrestled the gunman and disarmed him is Muslim. An act of unprecedented bravery which I am sure will be lost in the outpouring of blame.

It sort of highlights the issue though. While most Muslims will go through life without incident, we can't deny there is a long line of examples around the world that would indicate a problem exists.

One guy is a business owner. Willing to put his life on the line to stop the carnage. I think the word hero doesn't do him justice. Muslim.

Another takes his son on a killing spree for ideological reasons. Muslim.

In practical terms, how is an immigration officer meant to distinguish between these people?

 

[Halbrowne61]

At a guess, I would say YES, but then again, the fruit shop owner from Sutherland that everyone is hailing as a hero (and rightly so) is probably a Muslim as well.

A good man, and if he was Muslim, then I applaud him in embracing Australian values.
But so very hard to sort the wood from the trees, isn’t it ?

 

[Demps]

It sort of highlights the issue though. While most Muslims will go through life without incident, we can't deny there is a long line of examples around the world that would indicate a problem exists.

One guy is a business owner. Willing to put his life on the line to stop the carnage. I think the word hero doesn't do him justice. Muslim.

Another takes his son on a killing spree for ideological reasons. Muslim.

In practical terms, how is an immigration officer meant to distinguish between these people?

I saw a post a few days ago saying its like the 20th anniversary of the Cronulla riots.
Then there is this attack, at a beach location.

Then 6 days a post saying Australia is the second safest country in the world.
Anyway, just thinking...

I hope there isn't retaliation attacks that follow on from this, causing more harm... eye for an eye and the world goes blind.

I'm just lost for words about this all.
It's just so beyond sickening.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

But if the police uncover stuff will Albo deport his family and others who have said they were delighted that Jews where killed two years ago .
Not a hope Albo is a joke he is very much a middle eastern lover , since his early 20ts

This is a matter for our police and security agencies. They will investigate and no doubt report to Govt, perhaps to the NSW Director of Public Prosecutions.

 

[shiretiger]

It sort of highlights the issue though. While most Muslims will go through life without incident, we can't deny there is a long line of examples around the world that would indicate a problem exists.

One guy is a business owner. Willing to put his life on the line to stop the carnage. I think the word hero doesn't do him justice. Muslim.

Another takes his son on a killing spree for ideological reasons. Muslim.

In practical terms, how is an immigration officer meant to distinguish between these people?

The hero is a Maronite Christian who owns Sutherland Best Fresh.

 

[shiretiger]

Let’s just say it was the other way around, what would come next, an eye for an eye?
I’m hoping the actions of the brave lone hero do more to bring us together. Bravo.
A Muslim disarming another Muslim shooting at Jews, that must definitely be a first.
And should be used to show that Muslims need to care about their adopted country, and fellow man.

Didn't happen. He is a Maronite Christian

 

[Demps]

Didn't happen. He is a Maronite Christian

Lot of mixed reports.

Some say he's Syrian.
Either way, he's a hero.
Thank you so much Sir.

 

[jadtiger]

There are good and bad people in every religion just as there are good and bad amongst all political parties and every section of humanity.Bigotry and hate are terrible thing's like they always have been since the start of humanity.
This has been an appaling incident targetting the Jewish section of Australians but in reality it is bigotry and hate doing it's evil disgusting work against innocent people who were just celebrating their beliefs.
My condolences to anyone who has been affected by this disgusting act.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

https://www.timesofisrael.com/a-genuine-hero-unarmed-muslim-bystander-filmed-disarming-sydney-terrorist/

 

[weststigers]

I saw a post a few days ago saying its like the 20th anniversary of the Cronulla riots.
Then there is this attack, at a beach location.

Then 6 days a post saying Australia is the second safest country in the world.
Anyway, just thinking...

I hope there isn't retaliation attacks that follow on from this, causing more harm... eye for an eye and the world goes blind.

I'm just lost for words about this all.
It's just so beyond sickening.

Honestly, I'd be shocked if there was random retaliation. Cronulla was a retaliation against an ongoing problem. I think it's pretty well documented. It all went a bit far in the end.

I was working in London when the bombings happened and there were no mobs running around attacking random Muslims. I think people are smart enough to know that anything like Cronulla isn't going to stop radical extremists. I think you'll get mouthing off...you always do, but no way it will become an organised, Cronulla scale event.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Then that’s obviously why he did it ! I apologise profusely to him for calling him a Muslim.
(Sorry, I read elsewhere he was a Muslim - important to get your facts straight).
I’ve actually met a few Maronite Christians before, nice people with good attitudes.
Now, if we could only find some Muslims with decent values - we could hold them up as examples.
PS my part solution - stop the leak by not allowing anymore Muslim immigrants into Australia effective February 1.

You sound almost relieved you don’t have to credit a Muslim…Which btw, you don’t know if he is or not. Just go with the report that’s most convenient for you.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

We are all Australians and live in a multi-cultural society. Laws are in place to protect us and they have for many years. Violence of this type is tragic and will be dealt with by our police and security agencies. Politicising the tragedy serves no purpose.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

We are all Australians and live in a multi-cultural society. Laws are in place to protect us and they have for many years. Violence of this type is tragic and will be dealt with by our police and security agencies. Politicising the tragedy serves no purpose.

Especially when no one has any facts. When the facts come to light, they will be facts forever. You will have the next 10, 20, 30 years to wax lyrical. But some can’t wait that long and need to let their prejudices bleed out ASAP.