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Viva_Zapata
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I asked the below on the Eels live game chat but didn't get any explanation. You guys got any ideas because I thought it really strange??
What's the advantage of electing to receive when winning the golden point coin toss? To me it gave Parramatta an advantage in field position, which was predictable given how they started the game with Moses long kicking game. Surely given they have no yardage game we should have elected to kick off?
What's the advantage of electing to receive when winning the golden point coin toss? To me it gave Parramatta an advantage in field position, which was predictable given how they started the game with Moses long kicking game. Surely given they have no yardage game we should have elected to kick off?
Jolls
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Most teams choose to receive the ball first in golden point at it provides immediate field position allowing you to complete the set around the halfway and kick for advantage. It puts the opposition under defensive pressure and if a break is made it provides and immediate opportunity to win the game without having to defend at all. The disadvantage is if you do not win the set (get to half way) or you make and error you hand over to the oppostion in prime field postion.
Choosing to recieve - you may select this option if you are confident that you can dominate the ruck (noting the oppostion has just had a break so momentum prior is no guarantee). This would allow you to pin the opposition and control territory - providing an advantage in your first set with the ball. The disadvantage of this approach is that the opposition has the first opportunity to win the game without having to make a tackle. If the defence breaks down; you are at best faced with the same situation as receiving the ball (returning deep out of your own territory) and worst case is having to deal with a field goal attempt or losing the game!
This is why most teams choose to receive the ball.
Choosing to recieve - you may select this option if you are confident that you can dominate the ruck (noting the oppostion has just had a break so momentum prior is no guarantee). This would allow you to pin the opposition and control territory - providing an advantage in your first set with the ball. The disadvantage of this approach is that the opposition has the first opportunity to win the game without having to make a tackle. If the defence breaks down; you are at best faced with the same situation as receiving the ball (returning deep out of your own territory) and worst case is having to deal with a field goal attempt or losing the game!
This is why most teams choose to receive the ball.
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Viva_Zapata
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Thanks mate. I thought though it resulted in giving the Eels the first crack and that was predictable with how the field position battle started. Give we were holding their sets to 20-30 meters at times, I would have kicked off and got down there and bashed them.
Jolls
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I think Golden Point is a lottery. I don't agree with the concept at all - it is about TV drama not the game itself.
twentyforty
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I don’t know what the stats show for long range tries after a team has endured 80min of competitive footy, but if you’re the coach you probably would rather have possession regardless of field position?
The decision to attack or defend could be influenced by the strengths and weaknesses of each team and the momentum swing?
The decision to attack or defend could be influenced by the strengths and weaknesses of each team and the momentum swing?
Viva_Zapata
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Electing to receive also puts the pressure on themselves of making an error. If confident in restricting their metres, like we were, kick off and put the error pressure on them.
The way it played they got the first crack at a field goal and that was predictable.
Jolls
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I think this would come into the consideration if you win the toss but we would train in preparation and have a strategy for either option as the coin toss is a 50/50 thing.
If the oppostion has a Moses, Burton or Cleary who kick 50m just for fun at some point you will be staring down a lost territory situation so it was definitely a predictable outcome. I guess you just have to trust your system and the footy gods.
Moses probably upset the gods by touching the ref and taking the dive so he could challenge!
TheEnz
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should be golden try and if nobody scores a try it should whoever is in front after extra time. Will encourage teams to go for a try or have a early or late crack at a FG.
I would also be fine with a draw after 80mins and one point each. I really hate the current set up, just a FG shootout and your luck.
cochise
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