My daughter used to play some online kids game that, if she won one of the little challenges, the 'prize' would scroll down the screen and play a little tune and it looked and sounded exactly like a poker machine. She was about seven at the time. Needless to say I stopped her playing that game.
Ashley Klein gambling Problems
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supercoach
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Gambling today has been normalised as a fun thing to do and has been made so easy to access. When I was young you went to the bank on a Friday arvo and got enough cash out to see you through to Monday. If you went to Harold Park on Friday night and blew your cash , the rest of the weekend was stuffed. Now there is a money machine next to poker machines and online accounts can be available 24/7. I have seen so many lives destroyed by gambling and governments are not willing to make the big calls
Tom Shines
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What are they ? The overwhelming majority of people I know can have a flutter on the footy or horses , enjoy it and not have it lead to having their lives destroyed…,should they be prevented from that ?
BTW - A lot of people think that gambling is fun …and we have also seen throughout societies that try to prohibit it , it still exists underground in a much more unsafe unregulated manner
Jedi_Tiger
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I think the advertising shouldn't be there like cigarette advertising
nothing wrong with a better as long as people bet within means
my take is always bet what you are prepared to lose
Tom Shines
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Well ..: they are changing the advertising laws .., although I’m not across those details ..
Jedi_Tiger
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I think they still allow advertising after 9pm or something
it should be banned totally i think
The Pods and TV programs are another thing altogether...30 minute adverts like Get em onside...i find the analysis they do on games and scoring interesting but i wonder how.much, say Sportsbet...pay Fox to have these shows devoted to their cause.
I resisted getting an app on my phone for a long time it want until i started a work tipping comp i d/l one...i used to drop into a tab on the way home and put on some.multis for that weekends footy...or have a bet while at the pub which wasnt often.
Now with my ATM and a.betting app in my.pocket ...i see how.people can get into deep deep trouble...i remember the old.days too like supercoach recalled...and remenber the novelty of PubTab and SKY Racing in pubs when it first started...before then every local tab was packed in a Sat arvo
I resisted getting an app on my phone for a long time it want until i started a work tipping comp i d/l one...i used to drop into a tab on the way home and put on some.multis for that weekends footy...or have a bet while at the pub which wasnt often.
Now with my ATM and a.betting app in my.pocket ...i see how.people can get into deep deep trouble...i remember the old.days too like supercoach recalled...and remenber the novelty of PubTab and SKY Racing in pubs when it first started...before then every local tab was packed in a Sat arvo
You will always have addicts no matter what it is,making something go underground has never worked and just brings in more criminal activity.
I am not saying everything should be completely allowed just regulated.
Tom Shines
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Yeah ,,it’s kind of where I’m at,,,
i will add though that I’m not a fan of poker machines …and they seem particularly designed to entrap susceptible people .. also they are easily “rigged” to favour the house…the small number of people I know that have had issues it’s been with pokies ..
supercoach
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No one is saying ban gambling, sure going to the clubs with your mates and having a flutter is fine, just like the old ladies who go to the club and blow 20 bucks on the pokies.
What we need is to heavily control the way the industry is grooming the next generation of gamblers and the way they are marketing their products. Of course at the end of the day individuals have the right to gamble but safeguard have to be put in place. It is well documented that the rate of problem gambling is rising at a rapid rate and anything that may slow that down is a good thing. A gambling councillor once told me that a gambling addiction is harder to cure than a drug addiction
Tom Shines
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So how should they do that ?
As I mentioned and I’m sure you are aware ,,,the govt has done something already to curb advertising from gambling companies… what’s next ?
Jedi_Tiger
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ban the advertising totally just like cigarette advertising
No more gambling panel shows or putting odds on the TV when discussing tips.
No more bookmakers sitting on a couch providing a promo on games
my take is if you want to bet you.go to the tab or an app this stuff does not need to be advertised.
The government didnt go far enough it should have been a total ban on advertising and this is coming from someone that used to work in wagering and also likes a bet
Tom Shines
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Do they even still have TABs anymore ? Or is that the idea 😂
I’ll wait and see what happens with the first govt changes to advertising …like I said earlier …I think the major problem is poker machines and there isn’t a lot of advertising for them,,
Jedi_Tiger
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pub tabs are still alive and kicking nothing better than having a punt and a beer with mates
they have announced the changes
- Broadcast Restrictions: Television advertisements from betting agencies are capped at three ads per hour between 6:00 a.m. and 8:30 p.m. and are entirely banned during live sports broadcasts.
- Radio Bans: Gambling ads are outlawed on the radio during peak school drop-off and pick-up times.
- Digital Platforms: Online gambling ads are blocked unless a verified adult (aged 18+) opts-in to receive them.
- Sponsorship Ban: Celebrities and athletes can no longer be used in betting ads. Gambling logos are prohibited in sports venues and on official team uniforms (nrl has an exception until end of 2028)
Tom Shines
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And poker machines ? Are you ok with them? Does advertising influence people’s gambling habits playing them ?
upthetigers
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Poker machines are designed to be addictive. They show lots of "near misses" on purpose to give you the illusion you are so close to a big win. The casual players putting in $20 and calling it a day are in the minority, a large portion of the player base is problem gamblers.
Jedi_Tiger
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well poker machines are not advertised on TV or radio, so they are not part of advertising
As a gambling tool I hate poker machines, but the legislation at the moment is around those awful gambling adds.
Poker machines are at pubs casinos etc dont think they should be on TV advertising and they are not.
Personally I think poker machines should be restricted to casinos only
Tom Shines
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My point is that advertising does not influence gambling on poker machines …it just happens anyway … I hate them too…
Jedi_Tiger
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agree it doesnt influence gambling on poker machines.
I love a punt but I know i can go to a pub or on my app and have a punt, I shouldn't have to watch say matty johns show and have sports bet or Daley spruiker tab prices or silly Joel Caine talking odds
Jedi_Tiger
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in saying that
had a bet on parramatta tonight lol
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