Wests Tigers Private Ownership is that the Answer?

[BUGSY MALONE]

Wests Tigers is already privately owned. HBG are not a government entity. So what do you really want?

If only the BLUE WIGGLE had the big bucks because what he does have is a massive passion for the Tigers! Times have changed but Russell Crowe and Peter Holmes a Court paid A$3 million in 2006 to acquire a 75% ownership stake in the South Sydney Rabbits. The remaining 25% stayed in the hands of the club members. Changes can be made, as it turned South Sydney into one of the NRL's strongest, culminating in their 2014 premiership (their 1st in 43 years) and in 2026 approximately 31,500 members. HBG just need to step aside as their are too many cooks in the kitchen.

 

[mrcasino]

Dennis Burgess stepped down from Wests Tigers board so we are all good. He definitely does not have any control anymore, despite still being chairman of HBG board who control WT board.

 

[tigertragic]

Sorry this is a bit lengthy and covers with previously dealt with matters, but it’s to show the ongoing recent failure under HBG as I will ignore the previous 15 years and focus on the last 12 months only

HBG sack the independent board members despite this board by all parameters being successful

HBG invites the sacked board members back to comprise part of a new board

HBG creates a new board that is effectively an extension of the HBG board and far from independent

HBG fails to announce this new board to supporters

Shane Richardson had achieved success with the independent board and had conditions in his contract with HBG that he required to work with an independent board with get out clauses for a full payout if that failed to continue/ eventuate

Richardson was as good as his word and left

HBG then appointed an ‘interim’ CEO, despite it being known that ex manly CEO and Benny Elias had both been offered the CEO position and board chairman respectively

It was presumed the NRL chairman had step in to veto most of these HBG board decisions.

The season started under great fanfare and a video released of Benji stating the Tigers stand for something and if you aren’t going to meet standards the door is over there

The season starts well but suspensions and injuries cruel the season after round 9

Additionally at this time Luai has get out clauses in his contract and opts to sign with the new team for the tax free pot of gold.

From there the season goes down hill

Then this week AD refuses to play after being told he was being selected as lock off the bench

The response to this failure to comply with the coaches decision was to hold a meeting with his rep I Moses, the next day AD was selected in his demanded position.

This hardly shows what wests tigers stand for as Benji referred to at the start of the season.

Wests tigers supporters should expect players to leave in 2027 even if they have contracts with no compensation or replacement player as history shows they have rolled over so many times before and AD has shown nothing has changed.

Wests Tigers stand for NOTHING

This is all under the management of HBG

 

[Winston Churchill]

I'll flick a DM to the Welcome to Wrexham boys. Having Rusty involved might be enough to lure Ryan and Rob over.

Although I'm not convinced you could squeeze a whole TV series out of the Tigers.

Maybe call it "Welcome to the Shitshow" and upload it to Pornhub instead. There's a niche audience for every kind of S&M, especially watching prolonged public humiliation every weekend.

 

[mike]

If only the BLUE WIGGLE had the big bucks because what he does have is a massive passion for the Tigers! Times have changed but Russell Crowe and Peter Holmes a Court paid A$3 million in 2006 to acquire a 75% ownership stake in the South Sydney Rabbits. The remaining 25% stayed in the hands of the club members. Changes can be made, as it turned South Sydney into one of the NRL's strongest, culminating in their 2014 premiership (their 1st in 43 years) and in 2026 approximately 31,500 members. HBG just need to step aside as their are too many cooks in the kitchen.

So you are saying you just want a different private owner, instead of being privately owned by HBG?

 

[BUGSY MALONE]

So you are saying you just want a different private owner, instead of being privately owned by HBG?

Mike I can see by your Avatar picture of Noel Kelly you were and probably still are a Wests MAGPIES supporter just as I am (though now a Wests Tigers fan). Are you a strong believer in the Holman Barnes Group and the way they have run the Wests Tigers footy club? Are they the answer to turning the footy club back into a regular NRL finalist and why?

 

[weststigers]

Wests Tigers is already privately owned. HBG are not a government entity. So what do you really want?

Actually, technically it's owned by non-profit licensed social/leagues clubs. Profits do not go to individuals.

Not the same as private ownership - private ownership would mean an individual, private company or public company with beneficial owners.

Big difference.

 

[weststigers]

Mike I can see by your Avatar picture of Noel Kelly you were and probably still are a Wests MAGPIES supporter just as I am (though now a Wests Tigers fan). Are you a strong believer in the Holman Barnes Group and the way they have run the Wests Tigers footy club? Are they the answer to turning the footy club back into a regular NRL finalist and why?

Ask him if he is happy how Wests Ashfield ran the Magpies when they were in the comp.

 

[hammertime]

So you are saying you just want a different private owner, instead of being privately owned by HBG?

It's not private ownership. It's a non-profit. You think blokes like Dennis actually own the club? That's why people are up in arms when they act in their own self-interest. Directors aren't owners - they are supposed to act on behalf of members and be voted in by members. Neither of these are happening in the way the other NRL clubs work.

 

[Papacito]

But it has for Storm. And most of the time, for Manly

You only need to look at the last 10 premiership winners.

7 leagues club models
2 private ownership
1 public ownership

 

[BUGSY MALONE]

You only need to look at the last 10 premiership winners.

7 leagues club models
2 private ownership
1 public ownership

Papacito (or should I call you Little Daddy), obviously the Penrith Panthers are 4 of those premiership winners that are a leagues club model. I wonder whether you believe HBG are running the Wests Tigers like their well oiled machine?

 

[Spacecub]

Private ownership hasn't worked out too well for the Titans.

What do they say about doing the same thing and expecting a different result

 

[Papacito]

Papacito (or should I call you Little Daddy), obviously the Penrith Panthers are 4 of those premiership winners that are a leagues club model. I wonder whether you believe HBG are running the Wests Tigers like their well oiled machine?

HBG own a 90% share of Wests Tigers but they are not "running the Wests Tigers".

 

[hammertime]

HBG own a 90% share of Wests Tigers but they are not "running the Wests Tigers".

Therein lies the problem. We need a board with credentials, experience, and an attitude to contribute to our team. One that doesn't shy away from responsibility and owning our strategic direction and culture.

We simply have a mob at the moment that is keen to pick up their blazers, get in on photo shoots and take no accountability for anything.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

I'd prefer the NRL revoke the licence and just bury the bloody place once and for all.

 

[KevB]

Sorry this is a bit lengthy and covers with previously dealt with matters, but it’s to show the ongoing recent failure under HBG as I will ignore the previous 15 years and focus on the last 12 months only

HBG sack the independent board members despite this board by all parameters being successful

HBG invites the sacked board members back to comprise part of a new board

HBG creates a new board that is effectively an extension of the HBG board and far from independent

HBG fails to announce this new board to supporters

Shane Richardson had achieved success with the independent board and had conditions in his contract with HBG that he required to work with an independent board with get out clauses for a full payout if that failed to continue/ eventuate

Richardson was as good as his word and left

HBG then appointed an ‘interim’ CEO, despite it being known that ex manly CEO and Benny Elias had both been offered the CEO position and board chairman respectively

It was presumed the NRL chairman had step in to veto most of these HBG board decisions.

The season started under great fanfare and a video released of Benji stating the Tigers stand for something and if you aren’t going to meet standards the door is over there

The season starts well but suspensions and injuries cruel the season after round 9

Additionally at this time Luai has get out clauses in his contract and opts to sign with the new team for the tax free pot of gold.

From there the season goes down hill

Then this week AD refuses to play after being told he was being selected as lock off the bench

The response to this failure to comply with the coaches decision was to hold a meeting with his rep I Moses, the next day AD was selected in his demanded position.

This hardly shows what wests tigers stand for as Benji referred to at the start of the season.

Wests tigers supporters should expect players to leave in 2027 even if they have contracts with no compensation or replacement player as history shows they have rolled over so many times before and AD has shown nothing has changed.

Wests Tigers stand for NOTHING

This is all under the management of HBG

I have no idea what is factual in the above ramble blaming HBG for everything, but I thought Wests Tigers Board would have appointed the new CEO, which is usually what Boards do, appoint the CEO.

 

[weststigers]

You only need to look at the last 10 premiership winners.

7 leagues club models
2 private ownership
1 public ownership

And the members can vote out underperforming board members - we can't. that's the difference.

 

[wstigers11]

And the members can vote out underperforming board members - we can't. that's the difference.

It’s a joke

 

[twentyforty]

So you are saying you just want a different private owner, instead of being privately owned by HBG?

While the debentures allow the holders constitutional rights, their liability is limited to the $100.
They have no skin in the game, so it’s a matter of “all care and no responsibility.”
Very much unlike a private company where a creditor can in certain cases come after your house. So you can easily see how standards can slip and outcomes can take a backward seat.

 

[hammertime]

While the debentures allow the holders constitutional rights, their liability is limited to the $100.
They have no skin in the game, so it’s a matter of “all care and no responsibility.”
Very much unlike a private company where a creditor can in certain cases come after your house. So you can easily see how standards can slip and outcomes can take a backward seat.

They're just in it for the power, blazers and box seats. Will not do the right thing.