Adam Doueihi #227

Illek said:
Mate, I sat there with my kids in the cold and had to explain why their favourite player couldn't make it. I sat in the car for 3 1/2hrs back with them to our home in albury devastated after the loss. They only get to see games in melbourne and canberra as sydney is too far to drive. These are their favourite two days of the year and we almost never win. Normally they don't care if the tigers lose, they are use to it, but to not have their favourite player put on his boots not through injury, through a disagreement broke my heart. He can claim he cares about the fans, but in my two kids eyes he couldn't have cared less about them on that day. They were devestated and this is the first time they don't want to be tigers fans. Maybe one day he will earn their respect back and Ill change my mind on him, but till that day I don't want to see him in our jersey. I dont expect others to have such a black and white view on him, but not every fan has to be happy with his apology and having him back either.
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I can sympathise with you and the kids. Lets hope he can redeem himself somewhat this weekend and the rest of the year.
 
Droppy05 said:
TT you carry on as if AD killed someone. He made a mistake, accepted he should have played, apologised to Benji, his team mates and publicly. His name has been tarnished by his actions and his coach and team mates have accepted it. Has been at the Tigers for 6 years with 3 to go. That shows his loyalty to us more than other player in our history. You need to move on and judge his actions on the field hereafter.
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Wow sitting out a week of football is the penalty for killing someone... Dramatic much.

I don't need to do anything. Your the one re writing history. But each to their own.
 
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I get the press conference was handled well by AD and Benji but I can’t ever forgive AD for dogging the team and the jersey.

It’s the leaking and premeditated aspect that frustrates me the most and to me that’s unforgivable.

Now AD walks back into the 7 jersey after choosing to sit out a week.

I don’t really care that he’s remorseful. The club has shown that players can throw a tantrum, refuse to play, and get their way. Whole thing reeks of selfishness.

It’s what’s been wrong with this joint for over a decade and if Benji and the club were serious about changing the culture they wouldn’t have indulged AD.
 
Pringle Gold said:
I get the press conference was handled well by AD and Benji but I can’t ever forgive AD for dogging the team and the jersey.

It’s the leaking and premeditated aspect that frustrates me the most and to me that’s unforgivable.

Now AD walks back into the 7 jersey after choosing to sit out a week.

I don’t really care that he’s remorseful. The club has shown that players can throw a tantrum, refuse to play, and get their way. Whole thing reeks of selfishness.

It’s what’s been wrong with this joint for over a decade and if Benji and the club were serious about changing the culture they wouldn’t have indulged AD.
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you dont think there are learnings from all parties to be had over this?...Especially Benji!
 
Furious1 said:
If only it was as easy as saying sorry, being forgiven and everyone moving on. The reputational damage done by these actions to WT, Benji and AD himself will live on far longer than any sorry that has been dished out.
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Emotions are still high. If he replicates his early season form and we started winning again, I think it would be forgotten pretty fast.
 
The one thing I just can’t compartmentalise in this breakdown of the Marshall/ Doueihi relationship issue is that coach Marshall hasn’t penalised Doueihi in some way? Could it be that Benji has accepted full responsibility for the communication breakdown by handing the 7 jersey back to Doueihi?
I think Benji has set a dangerous precedent, or hopefully he has learned a valuable lesson?
 
Lestronge said:
If people didn’t push boundaries you literally wouldn’t be here . Unless you’re 1000th generation pure born indigenous.
I find this holier than thou judgmental rhetoric to be so self serving .
A wise old man once told me me “ better to ask for forgiveness than permission” . I took that as take risks if you think they’re worth it . Do what you think is right no matter the cost . And if there is a cost , then own it .
It’s interesting the lessons people learn .
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The wise man in my narrative was another farm hand like me, but a bit older with more life experience.

Dont say sorry unless you draw blood, then just run. It means this.
Actions speak louder than louder than words.
Take care with what you’re doing so no-one gets hurt by your actions.
Little, minor indiscretions or mistakes will be forgiven, no need to apologise.
If your actions cause hurt, no apology will cover it.

Ive had team members in the past with the 'better to ask for forgiveness than permission' attitude. In my workplace it was an attitude that could get people hurt or worse. They would F' it up then say sorry, again and again. I did my best to move them on. In our high performance sub teams, people with those attributes simply weren't admitted.

Better to think about your actions beforehand and not F'up in the first place. Douehi basically admitted he should have done this.

So, holier than thou, self serving, judgemental? Where's your mirror?
 
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Interesting Benji mentioned they had Danny Abdullah in to speak to them on Tuesday about acceptance and forgiveness
This is the father of the kids that were killed on the street by a drunk and drug affected driver at Oatlands several years ago.
He and his wife have forgiven the driver.

Personally ive ever only truly hated one person in my life and they came into my life thru my own stuff ups...i see this now but at the time i didnt.
Forgiving...or more for myself letting go of grudges that made me toxic and held.me back i believe has seen me grow and understand i was at fault when i was hating that peron.

If you carry baggage it just weighs you down...this Doueihi thing is a grain of sand to me compared to what ive been thru, yeah i dont like it and its a.very bad look for the club ive supported for over 50 years but I can get past it...but thats just me.and im not here to say anyone here should feel.this way or that about it...
 
twentyforty said:
The one thing I just can’t compartmentalise in this breakdown of the Marshall/ Doueihi relationship issue is that coach Marshall hasn’t penalised Doueihi in some way? Could it be that Benji has accepted full responsibility for the communication breakdown by handing the 7 jersey back to Doueihi?
I think Benji has set a dangerous precedent, or hopefully he has learned a valuable lesson?
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Douehi may well have had a couple of breach notices we arent privvy to
 
twentyforty said:
The one thing I just can’t compartmentalise in this breakdown of the Marshall/ Doueihi relationship issue is that coach Marshall hasn’t penalised Doueihi in some way? Could it be that Benji has accepted full responsibility for the communication breakdown by handing the 7 jersey back to Doueihi?
I think Benji has set a dangerous precedent, or hopefully he has learned a valuable lesson?
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Doooeee doesn't have much hair to peroxide.
 
TurnStyle said:
We don't truly know if he has been penalised, but that's the point.

One week in KOE and the world knows he's done at least something.
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It is not the world that need to know about punishment though. It is AD and his team mates that need to know.

Why do our personal issues need to be addressed? Sure it would be great to see him playing cup at 13; but, is that what is best for the team/club this week against Parra?
 
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