Well you do when you said you guarantee.
Tongan, Samoan and Fiji reps etc have always been eligible for Origin (if they met the resident before 13 rule).
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Tongan, Samoan and Fiji reps etc have always been eligible for Origin (if they met the resident before 13 rule).
mtd#2
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He never used to be that bad
he stood in as fb a few times , then went up for the highest bidder ,actually wanted him here playing fb b4 we wasted that money on Bula
Yeah OK you got me on semantics then. Leniu wasn't being picked, and he was the one who made the most noise about it.
On the pacific reps playing origin, I thought they quashed that for a bit when they said they were endorsed as tier 1 nations by the RLF? Obviously that never happened.
EDIT: Had a look, it was in regard to nation hopping, not Origin.
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GNR4LIFE
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My respect for Jahrome Hughes grew after they changed the rules. He said the only reason he would play would be for money, and he didn’t wanna do that. That’s a guy you can believe really does have pride in the jersey. Unlike performative twats like AFB who just saw $$$ signs the moment they relaxed the rule.
This has been responded to 100 times. Either way, Hughes was not eligible for Origin, even under the new rules. No different to someone like Herbie.
Call it semantics if you want. It did make me laugh as your posts made me think of the Life of Brian’s scene “What have the Romans done for us?”
“Guarantee if picked for Australia they’d forget about their heritage”
What about Haumole?
“All right, apart from Haumole, Crichton, Hammer, Toia, highly paid players at their club, players who made Origin, , sanitation and roads, I guarantee if picked for Australia they’d forget about their heritage”
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You've made your point. In future I'll ensure every post resembles a legal document and make sure all caveats are stated in advance to prevent any interactions like this in future. Sincerest apologies, I hope you get past this inconvenience.
mtd#2
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After being pumped by Australia, suggesting the referee was taking bribes and that the players were underpaid (suggesting its australias fault) - it is being reported that the Samoan Government allegedly put $4million toward the world cup.
And apparently the ARL covered all the players flights, meals and accommodation!
So where'd that $4million go?
The irony isnt lost on me that the anger from a select few Samoan players seem to be directed at the ARL and Australia, but it is looking like maybe they were ripped off by their own.
And apparently the ARL covered all the players flights, meals and accommodation!
So where'd that $4million go?
The irony isnt lost on me that the anger from a select few Samoan players seem to be directed at the ARL and Australia, but it is looking like maybe they were ripped off by their own.
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Well coaches and staff had to be paid out of that I'd think. Not sure what those sort of salaries would like for a month period. I imagine there'd be a local Samoan RL federation delegation that would have been present and had to have been shuttled around to the games. If for arguments sake that took up 3/4 of that allocation, $1m allocated in match payments to the 17 players taking the field across the 3 pool games plus semi final equates to something like $14.7K per player, per game. Even if you want to spread it 23 squad players that is still $10.8K per player, per game. Bit of a contrast to the $3.4K a player would have earned for featuring in all four matches Samoa took part in.
If the players really do have a bee in their bonnet about it, or a journalist actually wants to do some journalism, they could look into it and find out where the funding went.
Caveat: I am not privy to the accounting of the Samoan RL federation or the Samoan government, and their expenses incurred during the tournament. Figures above are for purposes of discussion only.
Tim Sheens
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As is the entire world since the idiots attacked Iran. So, so much harder in developing countries where these rises can make the difference between taking their products to market or not.
mtd#2
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The Victorian election is going to be a massive indicator as to where the country is at. I think Australia is leaning right at the moment. The red head is looking more and more likely. Everyone is sick of the government looking after everyone else but australians.
I don't understand the carry on from Luai but I don't see how participating in origin has anything to do with how much pride one may have when representing their heritage.
Easy for him to say when he still doesn't qualify. In fact the fact he doesn't qualify might be why he feels this way as opposed to those who do qualify having roots in their respective stats.
GNR4LIFE
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Pick a lane. When Benji first debuted, I saw an interview where someone asked if he’s a Qlder or New South Welshman. He said “I’m a Kiwi”. He could be been eligible as he played for Qld in the juniors. These days, they just want to play rep footy. Doesn’t matter who with.
He wasn't ever eligible, he moved to Qld at 16. It makes sense at that age that he has established his identity. Someone that moved to as say a 10 year old is still
Benji has never been eligible having come to Australia at 16. It also means he would have an already established identity at the time he moved.
I can understand people who moved to the country as kids still establishing an identity identifying as both NSW/Australian and whatever their heritage. So I don't agree that they need to pick a lane.
Having said all that, I do tend to agree with your last line to certain extent. We've seen people like Olakuatu play for NSW's despite saying things like "Been a Maroons since day dot" and Keary playing for NSW after making an official request to have his eligibility changed.
What planet are you on?
The rules you’re referencing didn’t exist then (Benji is older than GI)
You know Benji played Australian Schoolboys right?
Ever heard of the QLD legend Ben Te’o,
Moved to Australia in 2004
- at 17 and played for the Kiwis in 2005.
Didn’t stop him from being elidgible
Yes I know he played Aussie schoolboys. But he wasn't eligible for origin because he declared for NZ. He could of played for Qld and Australia or New Zealand. He could not play for both Qld and NZ. Having moved here at 16 he had established his identity as a kiwi. Had he moved here at 12 he may have been conflicted as every likelihood he would feel as much a Qlder as he does a kiwi. Why can't someone be both and have to choose?
Tucker
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If we want the International game to grow, players need to committ and use their influence to help raise funds. Their presence has delivered big crowds, now they need to take the next step. Origin will survive without them.
One thing this WC has shown me is that there really is only 2 Teir 1 Countries. Tonga, England and Samoa are all Teir 2 and the rest are still a long way behind.
Tucker
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I have a feeling he himself isn’t that liked at that club.
Preston certainly gave him a gobfull a couple of times in the game last week including reportedly saying “all you do is talk”. That’s pretty disrespectful of your club captain.
mtd#2
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It actually hurts the development of australian players if origin sides are made up of islanders who wont eventually play for australia.
There will come a point i think they have ti draw a line in the sand and maybe run a tonga v Samoa v nz like tri series at the same time
