AmericanHistoryX
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Galvin would be expensive...
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Agree.Papalli is not the problem. You strengthen the roster around a player like him you don't move them on. Every week fans lament players going well at stronger clubs - that's because they are playing with more talented rosters.
Yes Mason has been great in a struggling team in Cup. I think he could be dangerous around the ruckBenj has already spoken to his utility value and how he goes 100 miles an hour at everything. I think he's the ideal 14 moving forward, but Benj has to utilise him. we can't waste his key development phase by having him sit on the pine for 80 like he has with Sullivan and now Simpkin.
Agree.
But some of his individual efforts, on both sides of the ball, have been absolutely atrocious for 14 months.
He is a defensive liability at some point in EVERY game.
I think it's hard to argue with Su'a being a legitimately good signing suggestion, given his current form.I’d be grabbing Sua and swapping for Papalii. He offers zero. Give him back to Parra. He wanted to stay there.
100%.I think it's hard to argue with Su'a being a legitimately good signing suggestion, given his current form.
He's a menace.
tito why would he want to come to us...were going worse then Dragons..we dont have a lot of money either so that cant even be a carrotI’d be grabbing Sua and swapping for Papalii. He offers zero. Give him back to Parra. He wanted to stay there.
I don’t think he’s had form since he has been here. I think he had one good season at Parra and we drank the Coolaid with an unbridled enthusiasm.We signed Papali'i when he was reigning second rower of the year. It's up to Benji to get the best out of him.
Why would Su'a come here after seeing Ice's form fall off of a cliff?
Exactly.I don’t think he’s had form since he has been here. I think he had one good season at Parra and we drank the Coolaid with an unbridled enthusiasm.
Why wouldn’t he come here? Team is coming good. We played a bad game. So what?
Is there a player in a lesser team who is not guilty of missing a tackle? Unrealistic expectations placed on individual players is always going to lead to disappointment. His work rate exceeds most of our players but he is never not going to be guilty of missing tackles when we keep inviting good teams into attacking positions.Agree.
But some of his individual efforts, on both sides of the ball, have been absolutely atrocious for 14 months.
He is a defensive liability at some point in EVERY game.
Of course.Is there a player in a lesser team who is not guilty of missing a tackle? Unrealistic expectations placed on individual players is always going to lead to disappointment. His work rate exceeds most of our players but he is never not going to be guilty of missing tackles when we keep inviting good teams into attacking positions.
I can guarantee you every time any team gets beat good players miss tackles - even in the good sides
I don’t think he’s had form since he has been here. I think he had one good season at Parra and we drank the Coolaid with an unbridled enthusiasm.
Why wouldn’t he come here? Team is coming good. We played a bad game. So what?
I reckon our edge defence is much improved but it is an area where teams run attack and can catch players out. LL use to cop the same level of criticism and also played 80 mins. We just can't keep off loading FG players to teams thinking that we are going to replace them easily with someone who will be able to make up for our weaknesses.Of course.
Im not talking about simply missing tackles. However, he frequently has some bad ones.
He's a very poor lateral mover and has a habit of overcommiting on the inside. He frequently causes indecision for his outside men on swings that should be covered comfortably.
Again, I agree.I reckon our edge defence is much improved but it is an area where teams run attack and can catch players out. LL use to cop the same level of criticism and also played 80 mins. We just can't keep off loading FG players to teams thinking that we are going to replace them easily with someone who will be able to make up for our weaknesses.
Sorry mate don't want to get into a to and fro. To be clear don't think he will ever be the player to take us to the next level but he still offers value.Again, I agree.
I just think it is often a part of Ice's game that often gets overlooked and it's an area that needs a lot of improvement.
Outside of that, he was willing and busy yesterday, but again, his hands let him down.
Understandably, given personel changes, our edges were very clunky yesterday in general. Both sides.
All good brother. Good chat 👍Sorry mate don't want to get into a to and fro. To be clear don't think he will ever be the player to take us to the next level but he still offers value.
Undermanned? We only had two out. One of which is an 18 year old kid.Exactly.
We were awful and undermanned.
In the end, we were one astonishingly bad bounce away from it being 3 tries a piece.
Yeh, ok.Undermanned? We only had one out. An 18 year old kid.
Yes, obviously all those are important too. But if you can get in a bigger, faster body you take that upgrade.I couldn't think of anything less relevant than discussing the 3-5cm or 3/4kg differences between players when it pertains to their ability.
It's all output.
For a forward, for example -
How hard do they hit?
Do they run good lines?
Are they disciplined?
Do they have good lateral movement?
Do they have good hands?
Are they strong in the wrestle?
Do they regularly show the 1%ers?
Do they work from the inside?
Are they good talkers on the field?
Do they split defenders in contact?
Whats their offload rate?
How quick is their ptb?
What is their motor like?
Do they maintain line speed throughout?
Etc.