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OFFICIAL Jarome Luai - #295
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Tired Tiger
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Luai is not the problem and never has been.
It's coaching pure and simple, better coach and we would have had a better season.
I have been a Benji supporter in the past and I'd still like to see him succeed but unfortunately I don't think he will.
For him to succeed he had to appoint the best offensive and defensive assistants and let them run the X and O s essentially let them coach the team.
He needed to be the man manager, recruitment and the club figure head it's the only way it could have worked.
Unfortunately his ego and paranoia have led him to seround himself with his ex team mates with low skills and poor experience. Excluding John Morris who I actually think would make a better head coach than Benji.
But we are stuck with Benji because if he is fired the few good first graders we have walk out the door.......
It's coaching pure and simple, better coach and we would have had a better season.
I have been a Benji supporter in the past and I'd still like to see him succeed but unfortunately I don't think he will.
For him to succeed he had to appoint the best offensive and defensive assistants and let them run the X and O s essentially let them coach the team.
He needed to be the man manager, recruitment and the club figure head it's the only way it could have worked.
Unfortunately his ego and paranoia have led him to seround himself with his ex team mates with low skills and poor experience. Excluding John Morris who I actually think would make a better head coach than Benji.
But we are stuck with Benji because if he is fired the few good first graders we have walk out the door.......
No he found his way onto the opposition’s tip sheet.
Tom Shines
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It might take a year for that to happen here … but not at other clubs
I’ve heard players speak about the threat of Samuela out wide with the ball. He is being marked and well, we need to start using him as a decoy close the the line. Now if only we had a hard running centre that could capitalise on that play…
I think we use him too much as a decoy
Ive heard opposition players talk about how hard he is to tackle.. which makes me think we should play him in the front row rotationn for a while... Just get his hands on the ball as much as possible... Doesn't see enough on the edge
Then when we develops and has the runs under his belt we can shift him to the edge again
Interesting take.
Funny. Stats say otherwise.
In the Roosters game, his supposed outlier of performances this year he had 6 hit ups out of 11 receipts for 62 metres
In the Warriors game he had 11 hit ups from 15 receipts for 90 metres the second highest hit up tally of our forwards.
das tigers
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Yeah I don't think Luai is the problem. Aside forward depth and go forward. We really lack
an attacking coach with set plays and contingency plays. We struggle with the ball and lack
confidence.
Do the walker brothers want to be our attacking coaches?
Sam walker goes alright with instinctive football and a great instinctive general kicking game.
an attacking coach with set plays and contingency plays. We struggle with the ball and lack
confidence.
Do the walker brothers want to be our attacking coaches?
Sam walker goes alright with instinctive football and a great instinctive general kicking game.
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Just my observation over time, not necessarily the most recent games. I have felt there are times he's been a decoy when he should have been getting the ball.. on another note I heard on one of the podcasts that Terrell has the most hit ups and most decoys in the whole of the NRL which is kinda insane
hank37w
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Funny how the Walker Brothers were laughed at a few years ago for their short kick offs and line drop outs in the Queensland Cup Competition, now everyone does it.
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API and Luau have played under premiership coaches and with premiership squads they would know better than anyone where the real problems lie. No coach wins a premiership without the squad capable of doing it, and all great clubs continue to build and strengthen their squads by retaining and attracting players who believe in their systems giving their coaches the resources to be successful.
Anyone who thinks this squad is close to that level has got the WTs blinkers on with or without Benji.
Sacking a coach on the back of a club that has been camped at the bottom will not attract "the coach" who can miraculously turn things around and will only start the process of rebuilding with the same barriers that the previous coach/s faced.
Im not sold on Benji yet but if the players that know better than me are, then the rebuild needs to continue or we are just confirming what too many already believe that we have no answers other than to make the coach the fall guy.
Anyone who thinks this squad is close to that level has got the WTs blinkers on with or without Benji.
Sacking a coach on the back of a club that has been camped at the bottom will not attract "the coach" who can miraculously turn things around and will only start the process of rebuilding with the same barriers that the previous coach/s faced.
Im not sold on Benji yet but if the players that know better than me are, then the rebuild needs to continue or we are just confirming what too many already believe that we have no answers other than to make the coach the fall guy.
das tigers
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Really,were they? I loved the creative way to play. Yeah doing it all the time now.
That year Ipswich played on grand final day was a great style. Poor buggers lost all their players
after it.We got 2 (griffin and I can't remember).
fair call. Yeah Terrell is a weapon. Over the off-season more power specific training and he’ll be elite class!
hank37w
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Yeah that was Rod Griffin who was also a New Guinea Rep player and the other one was Billy McConnaghie who was a Scottish Rep in the 4 Nations or something like that and I think he was also man of the match in the State Championship game that Ipswich won against Newcastle.
I think Griffin played a year of reserve grade for us but I don't think McConnaghie ever actually played a game for us at all, not even sure if he ended up coming down to Sydney.
Halbrowne61
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No , the Walkers have put their hands up to coach the Titans. Nobody’s been game to give them a shot at the big time.
BalmainBoy67
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Interesting read.
www.foxsports.com.au
The horror numbers, costly exits sparking fears Tigers’ $6m man not worth it — Hoops
The horror numbers, costly exits sparking fears Tigers’ $6m man not worth it — Hoops
www.foxsports.com.au
Halbrowne61
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A lot of good points in there, especially regarding the “get out clause”.Interesting read.
The horror numbers, costly exits sparking fears Tigers’ $6m man not worth it — Hoops
The horror numbers, costly exits sparking fears Tigers’ $6m man not worth it — Hoops
orange&black
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One thing I have noticed again this season is that in A we simply don’t have enough bodies in motion. As a ball player you need to have options with guys running into gaps and pushing up with you. We are horribly predictable, running one out and we provide easy targets, inevitably losing the ruck.
There is no movement at all and often no one to pass the ball to. Hence we often have Latu and Luai running around in circles trying to create something. Last week AD ran straight and dug into the line before passing but he had our halves moving up with him. Whereas our halves often have no runners at all.
The good teams move up in waves off the ball players with guys either straightening up or running lines.
Earlier in the season we played a much more dynamic style. We let the ball go through the hands early and had quicker ptbs. There was a lot more motion. We also offloaded more and supported the ball carrier better. We need to get back to this style.
There is no movement at all and often no one to pass the ball to. Hence we often have Latu and Luai running around in circles trying to create something. Last week AD ran straight and dug into the line before passing but he had our halves moving up with him. Whereas our halves often have no runners at all.
The good teams move up in waves off the ball players with guys either straightening up or running lines.
Earlier in the season we played a much more dynamic style. We let the ball go through the hands early and had quicker ptbs. There was a lot more motion. We also offloaded more and supported the ball carrier better. We need to get back to this style.
BirchgroveTigers
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Luai needs to improve no doubt but really don't think he is the issue at all. In fact, I very much believe he has improved our team - improved it as much as 1.3m should? No, he hasnt. But we actually can't even spend our cap so at the moment the whole "is he worth the price tag" is a silly point.
Which top line player are we going to sign? It's honestly fairy tale stuff. He is the only decent player that had numerous options and chose us. Luai is also at least someone that other players would want to play with.
We should be doing what we can to keep him here as our long term 5/8. Bula, Api, Luai and Latu can get us to the finals if we build a decent team/squad around them.
Which top line player are we going to sign? It's honestly fairy tale stuff. He is the only decent player that had numerous options and chose us. Luai is also at least someone that other players would want to play with.
We should be doing what we can to keep him here as our long term 5/8. Bula, Api, Luai and Latu can get us to the finals if we build a decent team/squad around them.
