Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

liltiger said:
Technically we could sign anyone though. We give them our cap money and any other money they want that we don't have in the cap we can use a 3rd party agreement to top it up, as long as we can find a sponsor willing to pay. Isn't that how the 3rd party system works in theory or have I misunderstood something ?
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The club can't be involved in sourcing TPAs. In all honestly actual, registered, above board TPAs are more or less meaningless nowadays. The NRL cracked down on them in 2017 and by 2022 the total value of TPAs was about 3% of the cap: https://www.nrl.com/news/2022/04/29/nrl-unpacked-how-does-the-salary-cap-work/ That would be about $345k per club, total.

Basically, if a club wants to pay its players more than it has cap room it is cheating. Does that happen? Sure, I don't doubt it. But if we've got contracts registered with the NRL that are $750k short of the cap and suddenly sign Payne Haas I suspect the auditors would be at Concord within the hour.
 
Telltails said:
They call that the "salary cap" working
The strong stay strong while the rest shuffle with what's left.
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Api 700k + Fainu 500k + Luai 1.2m + Bula 700k + Terrell May 700k + Taylan May 600k = $4.6m. If we upgrade and extend Bula we'll be close to $5m.

What Melbourne are doing isn't cheating, it's having a roster full of cheap, first grade standard players beyond their stars. They aren't wasting money on people like Jack Bird and Brent Naden, because they always have a minimum salary, no-name guy who can do a decent job if called upon.
 
Aceshigh said:
Where was this million for Galvin going to come from ?
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We didn't have Taylan May when Galvin left so that's $600k. We also re-signed Doueihi. Let's say that was for $300k. Add that to what Galvin was already earning and you're well over a million.
 
2041 said:
Api 700k + Fainu 500k + Luai 1.2m + Bula 700k + Terrell May 700k + Taylan May 600k = $4.6m. If we upgrade and extend Bula we'll be close to $5m.

What Melbourne are doing isn't cheating, it's having a roster full of cheap, first grade standard players beyond their stars. They aren't wasting money on people like Jack Bird and Brent Naden, because they always have a minimum salary, no-name guy who can do a decent job if called upon.
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Didnt say they were cheating. The salary cap allows them to remain strong.
Hughes Munster Pap Grant are all worth 1mil + at any other club. Add Coates, Eli Katao, NAS Stef, Blore Meaney they are not playing for nothing - and all starters in any other club - not cheap first graders anywhere else.
And then you have players like Pezet, Wiseheart, Faalago ,spine players that clubs looking would have loved in their systems long before now but somehow are prepared to hang around - and also play for who knows. If you say something enough you start to believe it.
 
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Telltails said:
Didnt say they were cheating. The salary cap allows them to remain strong.
Hughes Munster Pap Grant are all worth 1mil + at any other club. Add Coates, Eli Katao, NAS Stef, Blore Meaney they are not playing for nothing - and all starters in any other club - not cheap first graders anywhere else.
And then you have players like Pezet, Wiseheart, Faalago ,spine players that clubs looking would have loved in their systems long before now but somehow are prepared to hang around - and also play for who knows. If you say something enough you start to believe it.
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Why can’t the salary cap allow us to be strong ? Our mate Stefano took less money than we offered to go there …do we need to have the salary cap abolished so we can offer him more to get him to stay ?

I gotta feeling their pockets will ultimately be deeper than ours
 
innsaneink said:
Richo said so...thats what he wanted everyone to belive.
Im stunned ppl still swallowing this
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I think it was a bit of column A and a bit of Column B

He would have been working on putting together an offer, but because they never had to formalise anything, 800k a year could all of a sudden become 1.3mill a year or whatever it was.

It would be nice to know the truth behind the whole saga one day.
 
The Chad said:
Oddly I think Stefano & Papali'i this year prove that the Tigers are getting something right.

And it's because both players had good seasons away from the club.

Let's start with both the players. No way Cleary & Bellamy taught them anything 'new'. "Be more involved & committed" isn't something you teach. It's something you buy into. It's, dare I say it, a club culture. What, if anything, it shows me is that Stefano & Papali'i are not 'leaders' as they were expected to be at the Tigers. They don't drive the standards. They follow the standards set by others. They are good players, playing in good teams, and doing well.

So why does this show me that the Tigers are doing the right thing?

Because the whole drive from Richardson & Marshall is about bringing in leadership, setting standards & having players that want to be here. How many times have we heard about Luai & building a club culture? How many times do we hear how Benji is building a culture of 'family first values' etc?

There was definitely some improvement in 2025. I would say that with Api, Luai & a few others that we are building a club culture. Now it's about having the right players, with the right attitudes, in the club.

Stefano & Papali'i have shown that talented players who need to be driven & caught up in a team culture can actually thrive. Not every player succeeds because you count on them being 'leaders'. I think the Tigers figured it out & actually invested in culture defining players. Now it's getting the rest of the squad mix right.

I'll sit down now.
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LOL culture.
Calling everyone bro?
We have no leadership.
 
Rock Hopper Steve said:
That's why Galvin & TDS were shown the exit stage right, they didn't want to be here, so I agree with the philosophy if you're not committed bugger off so you don't stink up the place.

A few on here were upset at them leaving but there's no point persisting if they think they're better off somewhere else, cut the cord quickly is the best thing all round.
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Yep let's build the greatest boys club inspired 12th ranked squad in the comp! Chocky necklaces for all ..
Forget about these young blokes we have stuck thousands of hours into and told the world would be the nucleus of our "development club squad" far into the future. Give API another 5 years....
 
Tucker said:
LOL culture.
Calling everyone bro?
We have no leadership.
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I think the biggest issue is how close they are to Benji. Of course you want the coach and players to have a good relationship, but there is such a thing as being too close, and I think proof of that is when supporters start getting anxiety about potential repercussions to the playing group if the coach gets sacked.
 
Tom Shines said:
Why can’t the salary cap allow us to be strong ? Our mate Stefano took less money than we offered to go there …do we need to have the salary cap abolished so we can offer him more to get him to stay ?

I gotta feeling their pockets will ultimately be deeper than ours
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Probs not the money but a near guarantee of a state of origin start for him undet Bellamy
 
Telltails said:
Didnt say they were cheating. The salary cap allows them to remain strong.
Hughes Munster Pap Grant are all worth 1mil + at any other club. Add Coates, Eli Katao, NAS Stef, Blore Meaney they are not playing for nothing - and all starters in any other club - not cheap first graders anywhere else.
And then you have players like Pezet, Wiseheart, Faalago ,spine players that clubs looking would have loved in their systems long before now but somehow are prepared to hang around - and also play for who knows. If you say something enough you start to believe it.
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That's not a failure of the salary cap, in that case: it's a club building something that players want to be part of. The purpose of a cap isn't to make winning random, it's to ensure that rich clubs don't have an unfair advantage over poor ones just by virtue of being able to pay them more.

It's clearly possible to build this type of setup, as Penrith have done so in the past decade or so. The point is to bring through your own players, who are part of a culture and a setup from day one: playing with their mates, in a system they know, with good prospects of success on the field and the right support around them off it. That's nothing to do with the salary cap, it's about good management.
 
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