Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

Canadian Club said:
They were all un-signed at the end of the season so would have been available to sign T&T contracts.

Herbert seems a waste to me. Theres the point that we can sign as many T&T players, however I would hope that Herbert isn't prioritised over the development of Max Taotua or Tino Tavana. Getting one of the players I mentioned may also do that, but those guys all have recent NRL experienced and development upside. A 28 year old injury prone player who hasn't played in 3 years really does not have much, if any upside.
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THey might all be unsigned but convincing them to take a Trialist contract wouldn't be easy. It is only fractionally more a week than a reserve grade contract but without the security of being signed for the full season. They would potentially also be holding out for a top 30 contract an overseas contract or even potentially a country contract which all have the potential for a better and more secure pay day that a train and trial.
I don't see any way a trialist would be prioritised over development guys. They are usually only here for 3 months at most, unless they prove worthy of something more. Not sure in what way they would be getting prioritised. At this point of preseason it is pretty much all one size fits all fitness work, very little skill development.
 
BlackWhiteGold said:
He may just be seen as a squad filler for NSW Cup CC. I understand the powers that be rate Max Taotua & Tino Tavana highly so they will be given every chance to impress over the pre-season. Someone like Herbert brings NRL experience & depth and IF he does get back to decent form, he could easily fill in as a NSW Cup centre if injuries strike.
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Older experienced players like Herbert help our younger juniors like Taotua & Tavana. Younger players always mentioned the influence & leadership Naden had on them and their game at cup level. He will be replacing that. They obviously want to be competitive in the cup competition this year so I can’t see how anyone thinks this is a bad thing.
 
BrissieTiger67 said:
I liked bird off the bench tbh , covered a lot. So many injuries and HIAs in the game atm
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If he is not starting the game in the backline it's just a Wasted bench spot he tries but doesn't have the physical presence to help the forwards

This year I think we need to try something different and have players on the bench that can physically make one on one tackles I know it's strange for the Tiger's to have players who can do this
 
BlackWhiteGold said:
He may just be seen as a squad filler for NSW Cup CC. I understand the powers that be rate Max Taotua & Tino Tavana highly so they will be given every chance to impress over the pre-season. Someone like Herbert brings NRL experience & depth and IF he does get back to decent form, he could easily fill in as a NSW Cup centre if injuries strike.
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Herbert if fit will push for a starting spot worse players have played first grade for the Tiger's

Plus he kicks goals and the thing I remember most about him was injuries and good defence
 
Odessa said:
Herbert if fit will push for a starting spot worse players have played first grade for the Tiger's

Plus he kicks goals and the thing I remember most about him was injuries and good defence
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Herbert wasn't up to NRL standard 3 years ago, hence why he was released by the Titans and not picked up by any NRL teams.

If we think that a guy who wasnt up to standard 3 years ago and hasn't played since is pushing for a NRL spot, we are in serious serious trouble.
 
Canadian Club said:
Herbert wasn't up to NRL standard 3 years ago, hence why he was released by the Titans and not picked up by any NRL teams.

If we think that a guy who wasnt up to standard 3 years ago and hasn't played since is pushing for a NRL spot, we are in serious serious trouble.
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The guy had injures he was one of Holbrooks favourite players a few fractures he was a super coach cheapie played injured alot

He will get a game
 
Canadian Club said:
Herbert wasn't up to NRL standard 3 years ago, hence why he was released by the Titans and not picked up by any NRL teams.

If we think that a guy who wasnt up to standard 3 years ago and hasn't played since is pushing for a NRL spot, we are in serious serious trouble.
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Skelton will do a hamstring Toa will hurt his neck and Herbert will play 6-8 games if he is not injured
 
BlackWhiteGold said:
Just common sense Ink. No way in the world we would sign a 28yo who hasn't played in 3 seasons to a top 30 deal especially when Bunty is just given a Development. I'd put my left nut on it's a T&T or NSW Cup deal (as some of those players are being given an opp to train with the NRL squad).
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Fair enough on Herbwrt...So left testicle that Buntys on a development deal?
Has this one been clarified yet?
 
king_sirro said:
I know Taylan killed it in the left,but everyone who knows him says he is a natural freak, so i imagine he could play just the same on any side. Id be having a look a him on the right in the preseason and see how he feels there. Then if Toa doesn't cut it, Taylan shifts across amd Mak comes in on the left
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Might not be a popular opinion - but at Penrith I always preferred him as a winger with his kick returns and early start of set runs.

Killing it as a centre over here though.

Food for thought I guess
 
teddy23 said:
Might not be a popular opinion - but at Penrith I always preferred him as a winger with his kick returns and early start of set runs.

Killing it as a centre over here though.

Food for thought I guess
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Just an old school (proper) way to blood a young centre into First Grade.
Play him on the Wing to get a feel for the game before putting him in the thick of it and
potentially killing his confidence.

We love to drag the young kids from 20's, hurl them into the hardest position to defend on the field
and just see how they go - Doesn't ever seem to work real well.
Sure,
You can do it when you have a back rower like Luke Lewis, Or a Winger like Brett Morris as a backbone for them, But we usually have them next to another kid - Or they're outside a nufty....

So frustrating.
 
batboy said:
Just an old school (proper) way to blood a young centre into First Grade.
Play him on the Wing to get a feel for the game before putting him in the thick of it and
potentially killing his confidence.

We love to drag the young kids from 20's, hurl them into the hardest position to defend on the field
and just see how they go - Doesn't ever seem to work real well.
Sure,
You can do it when you have a back rower like Luke Lewis, Or a Winger like Brett Morris as a backbone for them, But we usually have them next to another kid - Or they're outside a nufty....

So frustrating.
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Your line of thought is the reason when Makasini plays next year I think it should be wing until he proves his defense/fitness is up to task.

There's no way I would be starting him at centre.
 
Here ya go from ZeroTackle.com

Wests Tigers add experience with signing of former Warriors, Titans outside back​


Thirty-six months since he played his last match in the NRL, a former New Zealand Warriors and Gold Coast Titans outside back has signed with the Wests Tigers.

Following the signings of Bunty Afoa, Ethan Roberts, Jack Attard, Javon Andrews, Jock Madden, Kai Pearce-Paul and Mavrik Geyer, the Tigers have continued to add more experience to their squad with the signing of Patrick Herbert.

A two-time Maori All Stars representative, Herbert joins the Tigers after last playing first-grade for the Titans in 2022 before being granted an immediate release from his contract in the early months of the 2023 NRL season.

Training with the NRL squad at the moment, the 28-year-old adds a wealth of experience to the club's outside back stocks, having previously racked up 38 appearances and nine tries for the Titans and a further 21 matches and 76 points for the New Zealand Warriors.

He also spent time in the St George Illawarra Dragons system as a junior, where he was once captain of their Under-20s NYC side.

It is unknown at this stage if the deal is an NSWRL contract or includes any NRL components.
 
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