Delving deep inside Wests Ashfield

Go_You_Good_Things said:
No no no no.
You totally missed the incompetence and begging.
The ruthless reaming of the club . . . when it was already bleeding to death . . . by one of it's own famous sons.
The ineptitude.
The ingratitude.
I assume you've forgotten all that ?
Look it up . . . coz you won't get any reality if it goes against Balmain on here bud.
Then do that one, and see if your band of brothers have the same laughs.
Sorry for bringing reality into your lil cartoonies.
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Calling out incompetence from over 10 years ago..... But defending hbg...

The irony.
 
Go_You_Good_Things said:
No no no no.
You totally missed the incompetence and begging.
The ruthless reaming of the club . . . when it was already bleeding to death . . . by one of it's own famous sons.
The ineptitude.
The ingratitude.
I assume you've forgotten all that ?
Look it up . . . coz you won't get any reality if it goes against Balmain on here bud.
Then do that one, and see if your band of brothers have the same laughs.
Sorry for bringing reality into your lil cartoonies.
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Both have shown they can’t run a footy club
 
The Factional Cold War over 2005:
The 2005 Premiership remains the ultimate diplomatic battleground at Ashfield. The Balmain faction claims 80% of the credit because of Marshall and Farrah, while the Wests debenture holders maintain it was strictly a Magpie victory because Bryce Gibbs made five tackles in the second half. To maintain peace, the official board minutes list the 2005 title as "An Unfortunate Administrative Glitch in an Otherwise Consistent 30 Year Rebuilding Era."
 
cktiger said:
I never said it wasn’t.
I was responding to a post about old Magpies who seemingly refuse to accept the first fact.
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And i was responding to a balmain dinosaur who arced up because someone put the boot in to balmain but didn't say a thing while wests were being hammered
 
Go_You_Good_Things said:
No no no no.
You totally missed the incompetence and begging.
The ruthless reaming of the club . . . when it was already bleeding to death . . . by one of it's own famous sons.
The ineptitude.
The ingratitude.
I assume you've forgotten all that ?
Look it up . . . coz you won't get any reality if it goes against Balmain on here bud.
Then do that one, and see if your band of brothers have the same laughs.
Sorry for bringing reality into your lil cartoonies.
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The State Government Government stuck the final sword into Balmain Leagues when they originally forced them into buying land around the club and then booting them out for an underground link that was then never developed.
How would you be feeling if it had been Wests Leagues they wanted instead?
 
cktiger said:
The State Government Government stuck the final sword into Balmain Leagues when they originally forced them into buying land around the club and then booting them out for an underground link that was then never developed.
How would you be feeling if it had been Wests Leagues they wanted instead?
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It would have forced the Magpie relocation to Wests Campbelltown and probably the end of the debenture system as that only applies to WA. Interesting thought bubble there. 🙃 What a twist to the plot......

Also if Govt took over the WA site, say for Parramatta Rd extensions, wouldn't it also of had to give compensation to WA further cashing up the relocated entity at Campbelltown? Balmain although surviving as an existing Leagues Club with i presume it's (40%?) stake - which would be good against situation today, would it not cause another form of destabilising with WA (40%?) stake going to Campbelltown with their then stake (20%?)?.

Edit- and the death of Lidcombe oval dreams. Lord knows why WA love it, was there in mid 70s, its long past its time, but was convenient for train and pub in the day. Requirements of professional football have well and truly past simple suburban grounds.
 
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magpies forever said:
It would have forced the Magpie relocation to Wests Campbelltown and probably the end of the debenture system as that only applies to WA. Interesting thought bubble there. 🙃 What a twist to the plot......

Also if Govt took over the WA site, say for Parramatta Rd extensions, wouldn't it also of had to give compensation to WA further cashing up the relocated entity at Campbelltown? Balmain although surviving as an existing Leagues Club with i presume it's (40%?) stake - which would be good against situation today, would it not cause another form of destabilising with WA (40%?) stake going to Campbelltown with their then stake (20%?)?.

Edit- and the death of Lidcombe oval dreams. Lord knows why WA love it, was there in mid 70s, its long past its time, but was convenient for train and pub in the day. Requirements of professional football have well and truly past simple suburban grounds.
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You’re right they would have to give them compensation but remember this was a very long time ago … and they decide how much the reparations would be.
PS I was a regular visitor to Lidcombe in the 70’s and early ‘80’s (a mate of mine played reserves for them) plus I didn’t live too far away.
I can’t imagine what it’s like now 🤣
 
cktiger said:
You’re right they would have to give them compensation but remember this was a very long time ago … and they decide how much the reparations would be.
PS I was a regular visitor to Lidcombe in the 70’s and early ‘80’s (a mate of mine played reserves for them) plus I didn’t live too far away.
I can’t imagine what it’s like now 🤣
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Agree, but compensation would not have been something to turn your nose up at. We're talking 2012'ish? I recall when they were looking at extending M4 motorway in inner west in the
80's- 90's and Queen St Five Dock properties were to be resumed by govt, the home owners were only going to get UIV plus a relatively small amount for the house.

Re Lidcombe, I was there for the 78 match / battle / brawl against Manly. They built them tough those days. No latte sippers then.
 
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magpies forever said:
Agree, but compensation would not have been something to turn your nose up at. We're talking 2012'ish? I recall when they were looking at extending M4 motorway in inner west in the
80's- 90's and Queen St Five Dock properties were to be resumed by govt, the home owners were only going to get UIV plus a relatively small amount for the house.

Re Lidcombe, I was there for the 78 match / battle / brawl against Manly. They built them tough those days. No latte sippers then.
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The State Government paid a big fat zero in compensation to Balmain Leagues… hard to believe but true.
Also I am well aware how tough people were then…used to run into the Wests boys at the local pubs regularly.
 
cktiger said:
The State Government paid a big fat zero in compensation to Balmain Leagues… hard to believe but true.
Also I am well aware how tough people were then…used to run into the Wests boys at the local pubs regularly.
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How did that happen? I'm not overly familiar with the Balmain clubs sad tale of demise. Seems weird no compensation.
 
Go_You_Good_Things said:
Complaining endlessly about HBG . . . but casually forgetting to mention the world record showing of incompetence from Balmain . . . now there's some irony.
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To be fair… what happened before the merger has zero to do with the current management’s incompetence and a structural system that keeps out more competent (and intelligent?) people from running the place properly.
Surely you can’t support the current governance?
 
magpies forever said:
I accept it, the enforced merger experiment via ARL was a bad time. Forced mergers for more than a few clubs, in many cases hostile takeovers. Magpies- Tigers- Wests Tigers is probably the only case I can think of where the weaker partner in the merge has survived whilst the stronger partner has gone belly up. In the others I can think of Illawarra and North Sydney they disappeared.

Edit- I still think the NRL can take the opportunity to cut a Sydney team and promote another outside the greater Sydney area. They're still keen on other areas coming in.
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Maybe tigers merge with a new Brisbane team and Magpies merge with Adelaide, the South Australia Magpies, then you have the 18 teams.
 
Go_You_Good_Things said:
Complaining endlessly about HBG . . . but casually forgetting to mention the world record showing of incompetence from Balmain . . . now there's some irony.
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Genuine question.... what from the last five years are you pointing to as this "world-record showing of incompetence"?

Balmain barely exist in any meaningful sense anymore. As a Wests Tigers fan, I'm struggling to see why I would be flogging a dead horse that has no bearing on the club today. Balmain didn't sack the board and oust the CEO. Balmain didn't sign a rookie coach to a multi million dollar deal that pays him out in full if he is sacked. Or did they and I just don't know?

At some point you've got to ask yourself.... how long can you keep using Balmain as the excuse for your own (HBG's) incompetence?
 
cktiger said:
The State Government paid a big fat zero in compensation to Balmain Leagues… hard to believe but true.
Also I am well aware how tough people were then…used to run into the Wests boys at the local pubs regularly.
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Mate, you need to get your facts correct! Balmain Leagues Club was done & dusted when the State Government acquired the site from Rozelle Pty Ltd in 2018 ( I think they may have sued the State Government). Balmain Leagues Club closed around 2010, I think. The site was then purchased by Benny Ellias and a development company. Why would they have to pay compensation to Balmain Leagues?
 
mtd#2 said:
Genuine question.... what from the last five years are you pointing to as this "world-record showing of incompetence"?

Balmain barely exist in any meaningful sense anymore. As a Wests Tigers fan, I'm struggling to see why I would be flogging a dead horse that has no bearing on the club today. Balmain didn't sack the board and oust the CEO. Balmain didn't sign a rookie coach to a multi million dollar deal that pays him out in full if he is sacked. Or did they and I just don't know?

At some point you've got to ask yourself.... how long can you keep using Balmain as the excuse for your own (HBG's) incompetence?
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Just a deflection tactic for how poorly WT is run today
 
cktiger said:
To be fair… what happened before the merger has zero to do with the current management’s incompetence and a structural system that keeps out more competent (and intelligent?) people from running the place properly.
Surely you can’t support the current governance?
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He is likely HBG himself, hence why he takes it so personally and is unable to see that this isn't a Wests vs Balmain thing.

If this old fella is still around in 20 years, he will still be blaming Balmain for the modern day incompetence.
 
mtd#2 said:
Genuine question.... what from the last five years are you pointing to as this "world-record showing of incompetence"?

Balmain barely exist in any meaningful sense anymore. As a Wests Tigers fan, I'm struggling to see why I would be flogging a dead horse that has no bearing on the club today. Balmain didn't sack the board and oust the CEO. Balmain didn't sign a rookie coach to a multi million dollar deal that pays him out in full if he is sacked. Or did they and I just don't know?

At some point you've got to ask yourself.... how long can you keep using Balmain as the excuse for your own (HBG's) incompetence?
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Nor did HBG or Western Suburbs Magpies. The Wests Tigers Board did this. End of story mate!
 
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