‘I feel sorry for anyone who supports us’: Ivan Cleary vows to make changes at Penrith

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An emotional Ivan Cleary has conceded changes need to be made at Panthers after a diabolical first half performance against the Wests Tigers at Suncorp Stadium.

The Panthers leaked 20 points in the first 11 minutes of the game and went into the sheds trailing 26-4 to fall to their fifth consecutive loss, now sitting on the bottom of the NRL ladder after nine rounds.

Considered among the premiership favourites at the start of 2019, the loss was a sobering reminder of how far they have to go to challenge an NRL title. The strain on Cleary’s face was evident as he fronted the post-match press conference, admitting the Penrith job is ‘maybe’ bigger than he imagined and he has more questions than answers about the team’s poor form.

“You can’t win the game in the first 20 minutes but you can lose it,” he said, saying the club will be having some tough conversations over the next 24 hours.

“I don’t want to go into it right now. We’re going to have to look at everything we’re doing or have done.

“The first 20 minutes … you can’t just walk by that, there’s obviously things we need to discuss.

“But if we get to the bottom of it, we can turn it around. That’s what we’ve got to do. Where we go from here … we can definitely turn it around but there needs to be some change.

“It’s never as bad as it seems, but it doesn’t feel good tonight.”

Admitting ’not much’ was said in the sheds afterwards, follow up questions logically arise over Penrith’s depth and what, if any, positional changes can be made.

“It depends how many changes you want to make,” he said.

“We have to change something, whether that’s personnel or something else. We definitely have to make some changes. If we keep doing what we’re doing it’s not good enough.”

Pressure is mounting on Blues halves combination James Maloney and Nathan Cleary to retain their place in Brad Fittler’s Origin team when it is announced in a fortnight.

Cleary defended his halves, saying the blame does not lie with them, but was at a loss to explain whether it is an effort or execution problem with his playing group.

However, he said he does not feel under pressure to justify his job.

“I don’t feel pressure to justify anything but it’s my responsibility,” he said.

“When we’re sitting where we’re sitting it’s a big responsibility. We’ll keep chipping away at it.

“We need to do some serious reflection and we’ll talk a bit more over the next 24 hours.

”We’ll have to look pretty closely at a lot of things.”

Asked what he would say to the Penrith faithful who travelled to Brisbane for the NRL’s Magic Round to see them, he didn’t mince his words.

“Keep the faith. I feel for the fans. I feel for anyone who supports us when we toss up that.”
 
Wests Tigers supported Ivan but in the end he didn't support Wests tigers players and supporters. Not much love lost there.
 
I have to admit, there is a certain amount of unbridled glee I am feeling right now.
 
You feel sorry for yourself Ivan, you have already proved that fans mean nothing to you.
You got hit by the Karma bus.
Law of Karma: Those who hurt you will eventually screw themselves up and if you are lucky God will let you watch.
Pass the popcorn 😎
 
@WeHaveCheeKam said in [‘I feel sorry for anyone who supports us’: Ivan Cleary vows to make changes at Penrith](/post/1011177) said:
Josh Reynolds on Triple M - "I wonder if any tigers feel sorry for Ivan right now?"

Ya gotta love Reynolds - wears his heart on his sleeve no matter who he plays for.
 
@krissy said in [‘I feel sorry for anyone who supports us’: Ivan Cleary vows to make changes at Penrith](/post/1011176) said:
Pass the popcorn

Lol I had popcorn for breakfast this made me laugh (weird I know)
 
@WeHaveCheeKam said in [‘I feel sorry for anyone who supports us’: Ivan Cleary vows to make changes at Penrith](/post/1011177) said:
Josh Reynolds on Triple M - "I wonder if any tigers feel sorry for Ivan right now?"


Not me
 
Not one ounce of credit to the Wests Tigers for playing well last night, all about how bad his team played. Most losing coaches at least reference the good performance of the team that beat them, but not Ivan - jerk.
 
I've watched it about four times now.

Highlights for me,
1) He looks like he is about to cry through most of the interview
2) The reporter who says to Ivan - "Can you believe that you are last?"
3) When they ask him about how his son and Maloney would go stepping up to Origin, and he says they could handle it, they've done it before, then the reporter says that Nathan himself said he doesn't deserve to be there, with Ivan saying yeah well, he's 21 years old, only played 60 odd games, implying he's just a kid what does he know
4) The reporter says to Ivan that "you're not under any pressure, you have a long term deal so it's not as if you're going to lose your job..." and Ivan displays a nervous tick. BWAHAHAHA

Ivan is terrified. Lost. He has ruined his reputation so he could coach his own flesh and blood, but it has backfired terribly. They are running last, it's all because of the dynamics of how Ivan went there and he can't change that now, and he knows despite the long term deal Penrith won't put up with coming last for very long at all.

He is scared that he will be fired and will have not only ruined his reputation but will wreck the one and only chance he will ever get to coach his son at that level. His failure will also impact negatively upon his son, so that would be weighing on his mind also.

Karma buddy, karma.
 
Sold his dignity to top up his sons contract. Ruined his reputation not just among Wests fans but most fans of the other 14 clubs that aren't Penrith think he's a treacherous germ.

At the end of the day it's enjoyable watching him squirm but he's really locked up his and Nathan's financial future for 5 years so he's laughing.
 
To think this was the coach everyone salivated over and thought was the guy to turn us around after JT was sacked 😂😂
 
@Cultured_Bogan said in [‘I feel sorry for anyone who supports us’: Ivan Cleary vows to make changes at Penrith](/post/1011189) said:
Sold his dignity to top up his sons contract. Ruined his reputation not just among Wests fans but most fans of the other 14 clubs that aren't Penrith think he's a treacherous germ.

At the end of the day it's enjoyable watching him squirm but he's really locked up his and Nathan's financial future for 5 years so he's laughing.

Yeah, you can only laugh to a certain point knowing the money they are both on. The best thing you can hope for is that he he has a horrible 5 years to the point his coaching career will be over at the end of it.
 
@GNR4LIFE
as many said yes Karma. Slippery slope just like Woods and Moses are also on and will hopefully remain on.
Tredesco is the only one that has dogged the bullet so far ..... but his time will also come when he wakes up in the morning with regrets.
As far as Cleary wondering what the hell? Well for one the Penrith talented squad are just not with him and his son for many, many reasons.
Deserved outcome.
 
@GNR4LIFE said in [‘I feel sorry for anyone who supports us’: Ivan Cleary vows to make changes at Penrith](/post/1011197) said:
To think this was the coach everyone salivated over and thought was the guy to turn us around after JT was sacked 😂😂


Guilty. He was also the only coach who ever said hello to me on game day. Pity he is such a treacherous x$&@. I was duped for sure.
 
@Spud_Murphy. Totally agree, it would have been nice to have the efforts of our boys acknowledged in some form but no, he gave zero credit.
 
Gus had Bennet gift wrapped for Penrith but they decided to spend huge $$ instead on a coach not on the same level as Bennett.

Gus rides off into sunset when chin squad cant even get their new bus started.

Noticed he sounds much less depressed in his commentary last night and that was after the chins got a flogging.
 
Don’t believe that Penrith would have given him a 5 year coaching contract without some serious KPI s involved especially after the recent payout to Griffen
 

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