‘It’s the truth’: compelling new WT doco

@strongee said in [‘It’s the truth’: compelling new WT doco](/post/1420662) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [‘It’s the truth’: compelling new WT doco](/post/1420659) said:
@strongee said in [‘It’s the truth’: compelling new WT doco](/post/1420654) said:
Any chance that this whole season , was designed too have us get hammered around the middle of the season , blow up and almost fall apart , only for us to rise and make a run toward the semis to close out the season ?
Would be pretty compelling TV . Just putting my conspiracy hat on .
Also has any team that’s ever been followed by a TV crew been any good ? Or is that the point , and like a car crash , that’s exactly where the producers look for a story ?
Tottenham , Sunderland , hard knocks etc.

Thompson is garbage mate . No way . And Vaughan is Tamou . A great front rower from a few years ago . Do you even watch the dogs . Thier forwards do not go forward . It is literally the reason the lose , as thier backs are pretty good , and on par with most of at least the bottom 8 teams .

Mate Thompson is not garbage. I’d advise you to watch the games more closely. And Vaughan is a million time better than Tamou. In his last game he ran for >250 metres. It would take Tamou 5 games to get to that number.

I do watch . He’s not good for the money they’re paying him. Tamou ran for 150 this week . I don’t see it sorry . You just hate on this team so much , you talk up the wooden spooners . It’s crazy to me . But whatever . For a game changing front rower he doesn’t seem to change , or even influence any games front I’ve seen . He’s definitely not better than Uto , and I rate Joffa higher . If Mika can sort his defence out , he’s better as well . So yea I don’t see it .
Anyways you missed my first paragraph lol

You can’t accept how bad we are so you try to talk down other clubs to make us look better. Delusional
 
@jc99 said in [‘It’s the truth’: compelling new WT doco](/post/1420661) said:
Oh my god I can't believe people are so obsessed with pascoes wardrobe

Just because he's a CEO doesn't mean he should be in a suit the whole time. He was dressed fine, he just has a crap haircut lol. He's allowed to wear casual clothes when he's not at work

It’s not the clobber mate, are we sure he doesn’t still do schoolies on the Gold Coast every year?
 
@cochise said in [‘It’s the truth’: compelling new WT doco](/post/1420664) said:
@balmainjnr said in [‘It’s the truth’: compelling new WT doco](/post/1420506) said:
Just finished watching it. Quite enjoyed it.
Good quality production and it is nice to see that it is presented straight down the middle.
Pretty clear Madge is hugely invested while some of his players lack basic commitment to doing their job.

While I liked it, it was a bit too much of a YouTube reactions video for me. I would have liked to have seen more in-depth look at training leading into the game, looking at video sessions etc. Maybe the hard discussions between a player and coach. It was a little too focused on gameday for me. I was hoping for a little more gritty like NFL Hard Knocks.

They couldn’t really give to much away tbh ..
That might change in future episodes?
 
@the_patriot said in [‘It’s the truth’: compelling new WT doco](/post/1420658) said:
@elderslie_tiger said in [‘It’s the truth’: compelling new WT doco](/post/1420653) said:
@the_patriot said in [‘It’s the truth’: compelling new WT doco](/post/1420639) said:
@elderslie_tiger said in [‘It’s the truth’: compelling new WT doco](/post/1420541) said:
@the_patriot said in [‘It’s the truth’: compelling new WT doco](/post/1420531) said:
@hank37w said in [‘It’s the truth’: compelling new WT doco](/post/1420525) said:
@tony-soprano said in [‘It’s the truth’: compelling new WT doco](/post/1420519) said:
@thedaboss said in [‘It’s the truth’: compelling new WT doco](/post/1420385) said:
@tony-soprano said in [‘It’s the truth’: compelling new WT doco](/post/1420382) said:
You guys are actually watching this I'd like to watch two wins in a row first

U must be fun at partys far out

Watching now good start with inxs



Quality production, full credit to Fox Sport.

Been watching Simon Dwyer for a long time now and you just don’t see any reaction from him.

Love the guy but don't see his or Badgers purpose in the box

Dwyer deserves his place in the after have his very promising career taken from him giving his all for Wests Tigers and we should never forget that his tackle on JWH should be etched in every WT'S mind.

It doesn't buy him forever. I'm unsure why he is in the box on game day that is all.

He's a very good stats man and provides information to Madge straight of the computer he doesn't need to be jumping up and down like a lunatic his job is to provide stats

So all the top clubs have a stats mam who is essential to the game day operations in the box yeah?

You got it right.
 
@cochise said in [‘It’s the truth’: compelling new WT doco](/post/1420664) said:
@balmainjnr said in [‘It’s the truth’: compelling new WT doco](/post/1420506) said:
Just finished watching it. Quite enjoyed it.
Good quality production and it is nice to see that it is presented straight down the middle.
Pretty clear Madge is hugely invested while some of his players lack basic commitment to doing their job.

While I liked it, it was a bit too much of a YouTube reactions video for me. I would have liked to have seen more in-depth look at training leading into the game, looking at video sessions etc. Maybe the hard discussions between a player and coach. It was a little too focused on gameday for me. I was hoping for a little more gritty like NFL Hard Knocks.

Yeah it’s just a recap of our season game by game. Like WT fans need that!
 
@bagnf05 said in [‘It’s the truth’: compelling new WT doco](/post/1420670) said:
@cochise said in [‘It’s the truth’: compelling new WT doco](/post/1420664) said:
@balmainjnr said in [‘It’s the truth’: compelling new WT doco](/post/1420506) said:
Just finished watching it. Quite enjoyed it.
Good quality production and it is nice to see that it is presented straight down the middle.
Pretty clear Madge is hugely invested while some of his players lack basic commitment to doing their job.

While I liked it, it was a bit too much of a YouTube reactions video for me. I would have liked to have seen more in-depth look at training leading into the game, looking at video sessions etc. Maybe the hard discussions between a player and coach. It was a little too focused on gameday for me. I was hoping for a little more gritty like NFL Hard Knocks.

Yeah it’s just a recap of our season game by game. Like WT fans need that!

Round 5 next ?
 
alright just finished it - who the hell is sitting in the box with madge - what a bloody depressing useless bunch.
- total embarassment of a doco
- justin pascoe is a dropkick - fair dinkum.... ive met him several times and even that surprised me.
- i feel for madge - its like he is on his own at this club. no support, no professionalism from anyone else leading the way, players are average with no spirit.
- we suck.
- here' hoping sheens, hastings and gildart provide some spark because otherwise we're buggered.
 
@trippa101 said in [‘It’s the truth’: compelling new WT doco](/post/1420660) said:
holy hell - im half way through and Pascoe has a basketball cap on his head at the Newcastle Game.... Far out .... this whole doco is so embarassing.

Watching him being interviewed he looked like Charlie Sheen in 2 1/2 men very unprofessional
 
I know we are all peed off about everything these days, but seriously people complaining about Simon Dwyer being in the box…. Seriously 😳
 
@avocadoontoast said in [‘It’s the truth’: compelling new WT doco](/post/1420665) said:
@strongee said in [‘It’s the truth’: compelling new WT doco](/post/1420662) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [‘It’s the truth’: compelling new WT doco](/post/1420659) said:
@strongee said in [‘It’s the truth’: compelling new WT doco](/post/1420654) said:
Any chance that this whole season , was designed too have us get hammered around the middle of the season , blow up and almost fall apart , only for us to rise and make a run toward the semis to close out the season ?
Would be pretty compelling TV . Just putting my conspiracy hat on .
Also has any team that’s ever been followed by a TV crew been any good ? Or is that the point , and like a car crash , that’s exactly where the producers look for a story ?
Tottenham , Sunderland , hard knocks etc.

Thompson is garbage mate . No way . And Vaughan is Tamou . A great front rower from a few years ago . Do you even watch the dogs . Thier forwards do not go forward . It is literally the reason the lose , as thier backs are pretty good , and on par with most of at least the bottom 8 teams .

Mate Thompson is not garbage. I’d advise you to watch the games more closely. And Vaughan is a million time better than Tamou. In his last game he ran for >250 metres. It would take Tamou 5 games to get to that number.

I do watch . He’s not good for the money they’re paying him. Tamou ran for 150 this week . I don’t see it sorry . You just hate on this team so much , you talk up the wooden spooners . It’s crazy to me . But whatever . For a game changing front rower he doesn’t seem to change , or even influence any games front I’ve seen . He’s definitely not better than Uto , and I rate Joffa higher . If Mika can sort his defence out , he’s better as well . So yea I don’t see it .
Anyways you missed my first paragraph lol

You can’t accept how bad we are so you try to talk down other clubs to make us look better. Delusional

No . Not at all . The team thats 4 points behind the 15th place team , is garbage . And they’re because thier overpaid front rower is not as good as you make out .
It all starts with the forwards . They bought TPJ to propel them forward , but he’s not the guy to do that . He’s the guy to provide strike to a good pack needing something extra . Like the tigers or the knights .
The dogs struggle to break half way every set .

They don’t build enough pressure through their collisions to even be in most games . Where as we don’t build enough to compete with the top teams .
 
@trippa101 said in [‘It’s the truth’: compelling new WT doco](/post/1420673) said:
alright just finished it - who the hell is sitting in the box with madge - what a bloody depressing useless bunch.
- total embarassment of a doco
- justin pascoe is a dropkick - fair dinkum.... ive met him several times and even that surprised me.
- i feel for madge - its like he is on his own at this club. no support, no professionalism from anyone else leading the way, players are average with no spirit.
- we suck.
- here' hoping sheens, hastings and gildart provide some spark because otherwise we're buggered.

Sheens’ll fix it.
 
@strongee said in [‘It’s the truth’: compelling new WT doco](/post/1420677) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [‘It’s the truth’: compelling new WT doco](/post/1420665) said:
@strongee said in [‘It’s the truth’: compelling new WT doco](/post/1420662) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [‘It’s the truth’: compelling new WT doco](/post/1420659) said:
@strongee said in [‘It’s the truth’: compelling new WT doco](/post/1420654) said:
Any chance that this whole season , was designed too have us get hammered around the middle of the season , blow up and almost fall apart , only for us to rise and make a run toward the semis to close out the season ?
Would be pretty compelling TV . Just putting my conspiracy hat on .
Also has any team that’s ever been followed by a TV crew been any good ? Or is that the point , and like a car crash , that’s exactly where the producers look for a story ?
Tottenham , Sunderland , hard knocks etc.

Thompson is garbage mate . No way . And Vaughan is Tamou . A great front rower from a few years ago . Do you even watch the dogs . Thier forwards do not go forward . It is literally the reason the lose , as thier backs are pretty good , and on par with most of at least the bottom 8 teams .

Mate Thompson is not garbage. I’d advise you to watch the games more closely. And Vaughan is a million time better than Tamou. In his last game he ran for >250 metres. It would take Tamou 5 games to get to that number.

I do watch . He’s not good for the money they’re paying him. Tamou ran for 150 this week . I don’t see it sorry . You just hate on this team so much , you talk up the wooden spooners . It’s crazy to me . But whatever . For a game changing front rower he doesn’t seem to change , or even influence any games front I’ve seen . He’s definitely not better than Uto , and I rate Joffa higher . If Mika can sort his defence out , he’s better as well . So yea I don’t see it .
Anyways you missed my first paragraph lol

You can’t accept how bad we are so you try to talk down other clubs to make us look better. Delusional

No . Not at all . The team thats 4 points behind the 15th place team , is garbage . And they’re because thier overpaid front rower is not as good as you make out .
It all starts with the forwards . They bought TPJ to propel them forward , but he’s not the guy to do that . He’s the guy to provide strike to a good pack needing something extra . Like the tigers or the knights .
The dogs struggle to break half way every set .

They don’t build enough pressure through their collisions to even be in most games . Where as we don’t build enough to compete with the top teams .

The Dogs are garbage man but I’m not talking about this year. Next year they’re getting Burton, JAC, TPJ and Vaughan who all would walk into our team. And contrary to what you’re saying, Thompson is quality. Wait until next year when he’s got someone half decent next to him.
 
I thought that doco didnt show much of anything, or not anything unknown at least. Yeah, Madge is passionate but who didnt know that? It doesnt show if he has/hasn't got the tactical nous. (I personally think the only difference between the best and worst first grade coaches are the players and support staff).
It didn't show attitude, or a lack of it, from players or the coach addressing this. There was the perfect opportunity too as well with BJ getting dropped before the Knights game.
People complaining about the (lack of) assistants' input. We were only shown reactions to moments in the game. Assistants do their chat during the run of play. X is gassed, Y isn't working from marker, Z isn't using his lead runner.
Players weren't talking. Weren't they or was it just not shown because the focus was Madge/Fans/Pascoe/Ronnie Palmer that week?
It was an okay watch, but hardly a look 'inside' the club.
 
@dazza65 said in [‘It’s the truth’: compelling new WT doco](/post/1420675) said:
I know we are all peed off about everything these days, but seriously people complaining about Simon Dwyer being in the box…. Seriously 😳

Some sad sacks on here
 
@trippa101 said in [‘It’s the truth’: compelling new WT doco](/post/1420673) said:
alright just finished it - who the hell is sitting in the box with madge - what a bloody depressing useless bunch.
- total embarassment of a doco
- justin pascoe is a dropkick - fair dinkum.... ive met him several times and even that surprised me.
- i feel for madge - its like he is on his own at this club. no support, no professionalism from anyone else leading the way, players are average with no spirit.
- we suck.
- here' hoping sheens, hastings and gildart provide some spark because otherwise we're buggered.

They should ask for an advanced screening for Sheens over in the UK so he can get up to speed of the first 16 rounds before he gets here. I’m sure it will help him with where we are at.
 
@needaname said in [‘It’s the truth’: compelling new WT doco](/post/1420631) said:
It’s pretty obvious what Harry Grant meant when he mentioned the difference between the two coaches.
Madge is very clearly invested in the club and the playing group and you can’t fault his energy but just in that first hour I saw a coach that seems more intent with being a father figure and ‘nurturing his players into first graders instead of champions’ I know some of the players look disinterested’ but I just don’t see the presence and equally the respect.
He clearly needs some help with his assistants but he seems too buddy buddy for a professional team but with our blasé CEO the way this season has played out is not surprising me.

To me it's more damaging on the players. The players are really given everything they need to succeed it's on them to buy in, they never have the energy needed to win, they need to get their act together play for the club and coach

So far Kent's words a ringing true WT have too many players that are just happy to be first graders we need to fix that first and foremost
 
everyone on here claiming the Dogs are on the wrong trajectory are delusional.

Anyone want to put $50 on it that they are better placed than us next year? 🙂

If we had Burton, JAC, TPJ, Gus Gould, (idk who the others are) ... coming next year ... and if they get Brandon Smith then they're a 8th placed team for sure.

I wish we had those players coming next year... but no... our management bungled JAC and TPJ ... I mean why would TPJ want to come here after we wrote to the media saying "we are going in a different direction" and "he's not for us" and then two weeks later Madge writes in an article that we want him... cmon guys... absolute garbage performance off the field... like it is on it.

However I am still hopeful and delusional about us making the 8 this year hahahah🙂
 
@trippa101 said in [‘It’s the truth’: compelling new WT doco](/post/1420687) said:
everyone on here claiming the Dogs are on the wrong trajectory are delusional.

Anyone want to put $50 on it that they are better placed than us next year? 🙂

If we had Burton, JAC, TPJ, Gus Gould, (idk who the others are) ... coming next year ... and if they get Brandon Smith then they're a 8th placed team for sure.

I wish we had those players coming next year... but no... our management bungled JAC and TPJ ... I mean why would TPJ want to come here after we wrote to the media saying "we are going in a different direction" and "he's not for us" and then two weeks later Madge writes in an article that we want him... cmon guys... absolute garbage performance off the field... like it is on it.

However I am still hopeful and delusional about us making the 8 this year hahahah🙂


Wrong forum mate
 
@needaname said in [‘It’s the truth’: compelling new WT doco](/post/1420685) said:
@trippa101 said in [‘It’s the truth’: compelling new WT doco](/post/1420673) said:
alright just finished it - who the hell is sitting in the box with madge - what a bloody depressing useless bunch.
- total embarassment of a doco
- justin pascoe is a dropkick - fair dinkum.... ive met him several times and even that surprised me.
- i feel for madge - its like he is on his own at this club. no support, no professionalism from anyone else leading the way, players are average with no spirit.
- we suck.
- here' hoping sheens, hastings and gildart provide some spark because otherwise we're buggered.

They should ask for an advanced screening for Sheens over in the UK so he can get up to speed of the first 16 rounds before he gets here. I’m sure it will help him with where we are at.

Nah he won’t come home
 
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