2019 Coaching saga -Thread

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We know

We got the LCD

Lowest Common Denominator

Who we least wanted

Excited by the draw , brought back to earth with the coach , the life of a WT's supporter

I’m very happy with Madge. Won in England , won in Australia, what’s upsetting about hiring a dual premiership coach.

You'll see , modern day Brian Smith …....will destroy us long term

Let’s start “happy :bawling club”,

Happy is NEVER happy.
 
So we know we don’t have much wiggle room in our 2019 cap, how about 2020? Who’s off contract that we can punt in order to use the money elsewhere? Brooks will likely be upgraded, but I’m praying there’s some room to buy quality players
 
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You'll see , modern day Brian Smith …....will destroy us long term

What is there to destroy? We are rock bottom already. Lost our best juniors, a coach sacked and one who jumped in quick succession & haven’t played finals for yonks.

Seriously some people just can’t be pleased.

Madge has an extremely positive CV and is coaching an international team that beat the Aussies let alone has worked with the refs as well. We are lucky to have someome with his depth of experience and winning qualities leading our team over a rookie coach.

Pascoe gets an a+ from me considering the circumstances.

A+ for the 5th best coach …..that will do me

So Teflon Pascoe avoids any flak , even though he was solely behind getting the coach that has set us back beyond where many claimed Taylor /Potter /Mayer left us

Did the club even seriously consider Toovey ....was he even spoken to .......

He gets A++ …..... Toovey would gave been a whinge after every game disaster.

Yes did you look at his record with recruitment ??

Every player he recruited in his time at Souths left or was maimed with injury in the case of Glenn Stewart

I printed the list on another page

Yes he won a premiership , I wonder why , look at the side , he had blokes who palyed SOO that same year on the bench

Inglis
Johnstone
Auva'a
Dylan Walker
Tuqiri
Keary
Reynolds
G Burgess
Api Koroisai
Dave Tyrell
Ben Teo
John Sutton
Sam Burgess

Jason Clark
McQueen
Turner
Tom Burgess

After that they scrape into 7th , and then back to back 12th position

Exciting reading after the premiership hey

Claim I'm a sook , no I have high expectations for my club that I pay my membership to …......., and I like to hold people to the same accountability I hold myself to EVERYDAY

You get to a resort and they claim to be 5 star , and the pool is half empty , full of critters and the beds are full of bities and the air conditioning doesn't work ............what do you do ........???????

You want to accept mediocrity year after year , that's fine , that's not my go , that's all

Just remember Pascoe sacked our last coach to get this coach , the second this coach he recruited got a better offer he bailed , and now we are back with a coach who is extremely similar to Taylor , the best we could get because of our past success

Pascoe and Go also claimed Cleary was going nowhere , would see out his contract

Remember that interview ??

I'll support Maguire 100 % like I have with Pearce , Lamb ,Sheens , Potter ,Taylor , Webster ,Cleary and now Maguire

But I'm telling you he will be a massive failure , and just as it looked we might turning a corner

And someone needs to take responsibility , Cleary has said as much that he mentioned to the club he wanted to coach his son during the interviews , Go claimed that wasn't an issue at the time (comments on league life ,check it out you don't believe me )

Well Marina 18 months later it became a bloody very large issue didn't it ...........

Cleary was the right choice , AS LONG AS HE SAW THE REBUILD FROM GO TO WHOA

So where has that left us .............................back in purgatory

Thanks Justin and Marina .........but that's right ,it's Cleary fault , but remember you hired him :bulb:
 
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I’m very happy with Madge. Won in England , won in Australia, what’s upsetting about hiring a dual premiership coach.

You'll see , modern day Brian Smith …....will destroy us long term

Let’s start “happy :bawling club”,

Happy is NEVER happy.

I don’t know how Happy draws the parallel of Maguire with Brian Smith. Smith never won comps. Cleary is the Brian Smith.

I’m ecstatic about this appointment.

This guy has coached at Melbourne, won comps, he’s an emotional character, and most of all, he wants to be here! Gives good sprays too which I’m confident Cleary has never done.

Good times ahead.

Dare I say, the Tigers will be great again.
 
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So we know we don’t have much wiggle room in our 2019 cap, how about 2020? Who’s off contract that we can punt in order to use the money elsewhere? Brooks will likely be upgraded, but I’m praying there’s some room to buy quality players

I seriously can't fathom how we could have little wiggle room. I would have thought we'd still have close to seven figures in available cap space minimum. I wouldn't actually know but looking at the playing roster…..
 
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What is there to destroy? We are rock bottom already. Lost our best juniors, a coach sacked and one who jumped in quick succession & haven’t played finals for yonks.

Seriously some people just can’t be pleased.

Madge has an extremely positive CV and is coaching an international team that beat the Aussies let alone has worked with the refs as well. We are lucky to have someome with his depth of experience and winning qualities leading our team over a rookie coach.

Pascoe gets an a+ from me considering the circumstances.

A+ for the 5th best coach …..that will do me

So Teflon Pascoe avoids any flak , even though he was solely behind getting the coach that has set us back beyond where many claimed Taylor /Potter /Mayer left us

Did the club even seriously consider Toovey ....was he even spoken to .......

He gets A++ …..... Toovey would gave been a whinge after every game disaster.

Yes did you look at his record with recruitment ??

Every player he recruited in his time at Souths left or was maimed with injury in the case of Glenn Stewart

I printed the list on another page

Yes he won a premiership , I wonder why , look at the side , he had blokes who palyed SOO that same year on the bench

Inglis
Johnstone
Auva'a
Dylan Walker
Tuqiri
Keary
Reynolds
G Burgess
Api Koroisai
Dave Tyrell
Ben Teo
John Sutton
Sam Burgess

Jason Clark
McQueen
Turner
Tom Burgess

After that they scrape into 7th , and then back to back 12th position

Exciting reading after the premiership hey

Claim I'm a sook , no I have high expectations for my club that I pay my membership to …......., and I like to hold people to the same accountability I hold myself to EVERYDAY

You get to a resort and they claim to be 5 star , and the pool is half empty , full of critters and the beds are full of bities and the air conditioning doesn't work ............what do you do ........???????

You want to accept mediocrity year after year , that's fine , that's not my go , that's all

Just remember Pascoe sacked our last coach to get this coach , the second this coach he recruited got a better offer he bailed , and now we are back with a coach who is extremely similar to Taylor , the best we could get because of our past success

Pascoe and Go also claimed Cleary was going nowhere , would see out his contract

Remember that interview ??

I'll support Maguire 100 % like I have with Pearce , Lamb ,Sheens , Potter ,Taylor , Webster ,Cleary and now Maguire

But I'm telling you he will be a massive failure , and just as it looked we might turning a corner

And someone needs to take responsibility , Cleary has said as much that he mentioned to the club he wanted to coach his son during the interviews , Go claimed that wasn't an issue at the time (comments on league life ,check it out you don't believe me )

Well Marina 18 months later it became a bloody very large issue didn't it ...........

Cleary was the right choice , AS LONG AS HE SAW THE REBUILD FROM GO TO WHOA

So where has that left us .............................back in purgatory

Thanks Justin and Marina .........but that's right ,it's Cleary fault , but remember you hired him :bulb:

:astonished: Wow Happy I am convinced ….glad you provided proof why the sky is going to fall and the seas engulf us all.
Better get back to my shovel and the bomb shelter.
 
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I’m happy with McGuire’s appointment
Can’t wait to see what happens next year

VERY HAPPY

Disciplined Premiership winner with something to prove after he was let go by the Bunnies.
 
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So we know we don’t have much wiggle room in our 2019 cap, how about 2020? Who’s off contract that we can punt in order to use the money elsewhere? Brooks will likely be upgraded, but I’m praying there’s some room to buy quality players

I seriously can't fathom how we could have little wiggle room. I would have thought we'd still have close to seven figures in available cap space minimum. I wouldn't actually know but looking at the playing roster…..

Easily ….. and next year about dozen players off our books.
 
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A+ for the 5th best coach …..that will do me

So Teflon Pascoe avoids any flak , even though he was solely behind getting the coach that has set us back beyond where many claimed Taylor /Potter /Mayer left us

Did the club even seriously consider Toovey ....was he even spoken to .......

He gets A++ …..... Toovey would gave been a whinge after every game disaster.

Yes did you look at his record with recruitment ??

Every player he recruited in his time at Souths left or was maimed with injury in the case of Glenn Stewart

I printed the list on another page

Yes he won a premiership , I wonder why , look at the side , he had blokes who palyed SOO that same year on the bench

Inglis
Johnstone
Auva'a
Dylan Walker
Tuqiri
Keary
Reynolds
G Burgess
Api Koroisai
Dave Tyrell
Ben Teo
John Sutton
Sam Burgess

Jason Clark
McQueen
Turner
Tom Burgess

After that they scrape into 7th , and then back to back 12th position

Exciting reading after the premiership hey

Claim I'm a sook , no I have high expectations for my club that I pay my membership to …......., and I like to hold people to the same accountability I hold myself to EVERYDAY

You get to a resort and they claim to be 5 star , and the pool is half empty , full of critters and the beds are full of bities and the air conditioning doesn't work ............what do you do ........???????

You want to accept mediocrity year after year , that's fine , that's not my go , that's all

Just remember Pascoe sacked our last coach to get this coach , the second this coach he recruited got a better offer he bailed , and now we are back with a coach who is extremely similar to Taylor , the best we could get because of our past success

Pascoe and Go also claimed Cleary was going nowhere , would see out his contract

Remember that interview ??

I'll support Maguire 100 % like I have with Pearce , Lamb ,Sheens , Potter ,Taylor , Webster ,Cleary and now Maguire

But I'm telling you he will be a massive failure , and just as it looked we might turning a corner

And someone needs to take responsibility , Cleary has said as much that he mentioned to the club he wanted to coach his son during the interviews , Go claimed that wasn't an issue at the time (comments on league life ,check it out you don't believe me )

Well Marina 18 months later it became a bloody very large issue didn't it ...........

Cleary was the right choice , AS LONG AS HE SAW THE REBUILD FROM GO TO WHOA

So where has that left us .............................back in purgatory

Thanks Justin and Marina .........but that's right ,it's Cleary fault , but remember you hired him :bulb:

:astonished: Wow Happy I am convinced ….glad you provided proof why the sky is going to fall and the seas engulf us all.
Better get back to my shovel and the bomb shelter.

Gee great comeback ….anything rugby league related you'd like to add , play the comments not the man ....if your able ...if not leave the men to discuss the footy OK ??

Re-sort your footy cards out
 
Well played, Gus Gould, well played.

Once again, our club is the laughing stock of the league.

For all the huff and puff about not letting Cleary go, Penrith well and truly called our bluff.

It's an untenable situation to keep a coach that has signed elsewhere if you're a club that's intent on rebuilding. This much is obvious.

As fans, we deserve way better than what's being dished up by our chair and CEO.

They've been totally outsmarted, failed to meet their self appointed KPIs and have repeatedly made bad decisions that are impacting on the future of our club.

This is the last straw for me. I'm calling on our CEO to be replaced immediately.
 
I'm not that happy with Madge being selected but will give him a go.
Thankful it is only a 3 year deal, Unless we get some quality players nothing will change.
 
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Well played, Gus Gould, well played.

Once again, our club is the laughing stock of the league.

For all the huff and puff about not letting Cleary go, Penrith well and truly called our bluff.

It's an untenable situation to keep a coach that has signed elsewhere if you're a club that's intent on rebuilding. This much is obvious.

As fans, we deserve way better than what's being dished up by our chair and CEO.

They've been totally outsmarted, failed to meet their self appointed KPIs and have repeatedly made bad decisions that are impacting on the future of our club.

This is the last straw for me. I'm calling on our CEO to be replaced immediately.

Really? I reckon Pascoe has handled a bad situation fairly well actually. It wasn't his fault Ivan decided to walk away from his contract mid way through. He went out and aggressively targeted two premiership winning coaches, landing one of them. Maguire is the highest credentialed coach in WT history ex Sheens and you have to give Pascoe credit for making that happen.
 
I’ve got no issues with the CEO or chair. We finally have stability in the office, replacing either of them now would be crazy IMO
 
Madge is 44 years of age, trained under Meninga and Bellamy learning his trade as a coach. Gain wide praise during his time in Melbourne when they "won" the minor premierships and 2 Grand Finals. Left to go to England as the senior coach where he won the Super League GF and Challenge Cup and then returned to the NRL to make his coaching debut winning a GF within a few years at the Rabbits. He's also just done very we'll with Kiwi's against Australia with a team on paper that should have lost.

Honestly I don't think we could ask for much more. Bennett is obviously brilliant (never write off a champion) although arguably passed his best. Bellamy is clearly the current standout when it comes to coaches in the NRL. If Madges career continues along its current path he will end up with a reputation that compares to all but the greatest coaches in the game. I think we're in good hands and while I was a fan of Ivan's we've just got an upgrade.

He also seems like a decent bloke.

All on team Madge. Long may he reign!
 
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What is there to destroy? We are rock bottom already. Lost our best juniors, a coach sacked and one who jumped in quick succession & haven’t played finals for yonks.

Seriously some people just can’t be pleased.

Madge has an extremely positive CV and is coaching an international team that beat the Aussies let alone has worked with the refs as well. We are lucky to have someome with his depth of experience and winning qualities leading our team over a rookie coach.

Pascoe gets an a+ from me considering the circumstances.

A+ for the 5th best coach …..that will do me

So Teflon Pascoe avoids any flak , even though he was solely behind getting the coach that has set us back beyond where many claimed Taylor /Potter /Mayer left us

Did the club even seriously consider Toovey ....was he even spoken to .......

He gets A++ …..... Toovey would gave been a whinge after every game disaster.

Yes did you look at his record with recruitment ??

Every player he recruited in his time at Souths left or was maimed with injury in the case of Glenn Stewart

I printed the list on another page

Yes he won a premiership , I wonder why , look at the side , he had blokes who palyed SOO that same year on the bench

Inglis
Johnstone
Auva'a
Dylan Walker
Tuqiri
Keary
Reynolds
G Burgess
Api Koroisai
Dave Tyrell
Ben Teo
John Sutton
Sam Burgess

Jason Clark
McQueen
Turner
Tom Burgess

After that they scrape into 7th , and then back to back 12th position

Exciting reading after the premiership hey

Claim I'm a sook , no I have high expectations for my club that I pay my membership to …......., and I like to hold people to the same accountability I hold myself to EVERYDAY

You get to a resort and they claim to be 5 star , and the pool is half empty , full of critters and the beds are full of bities and the air conditioning doesn't work ............what do you do ........???????

You want to accept mediocrity year after year , that's fine , that's not my go , that's all

Just remember Pascoe sacked our last coach to get this coach , the second this coach he recruited got a better offer he bailed , and now we are back with a coach who is extremely similar to Taylor , the best we could get because of our past success

Pascoe and Go also claimed Cleary was going nowhere , would see out his contract

Remember that interview ??

I'll support Maguire 100 % like I have with Pearce , Lamb ,Sheens , Potter ,Taylor , Webster ,Cleary and now Maguire

But I'm telling you he will be a massive failure , and just as it looked we might turning a corner

****And someone needs to take responsibility , Cleary has said as much that he mentioned to the club he wanted to coach his son during the interviews , Go claimed that wasn't an issue at the time (comments on league life ,check it out you don't believe me )****

Well Marina 18 months later it became a bloody very large issue didn't it ...........

Cleary was the right choice , AS LONG AS HE SAW THE REBUILD FROM GO TO WHOA

So where has that left us .............................back in purgatory

Thanks Justin and Marina .........but that's right ,it's Cleary fault , but remember you hired him :bulb:

Happy to be proven wrong but i'm sure when Go was interviewed on League Life she said when Ivan was interviewed for the job it was NEVER part of the package for him to bring Nathan. She also stated that Ivan had complete control of the salary cap and that if he wanted to sign Nathan up that was entirely his call. Like i said mate, i'm, happy to be proven wrong.
 
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