2019 Coaching saga -Thread

[Geo]

Wow you go to a basilica and 12 pages go by..wot I miss…

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Who cares about arguing he said she said garbage. Where do you lot get the energy after 2 months?

 

[TIGERPOWER]

I think Pascoe is a tricky operator using the media to throw everyone off the scent. He is meeting with the POM awaiting Broncos to announce Seibold for 2019 and swoop on Uncle Wayne in England. He’s also offering the best looking secretaries in the NRL.

How’s that for a rumour.

Hope its better than your ''big news next week/last week'' one

Keep your info coming Tyga. Most on here appreciate it. Some can’t handle when posters like yourself are in the know.

 

[Needaname]

Yoss please tell me there is no chance Cleary will be our coach in 2019, it has disaster written all over it if this happens.

Could still happen. Unlikely but could still happen.

Yoss,

In your opinion.
What would be the motivation for Bennett to leave the Broncos early?
Is it dependant on who they appoint for 2020.
Is there any thought of the Rabbitohs releasing Siebold early if he gets the gig?
Is Wayne still keen on us?

I really don't know the answer to all those questions. Why would Bennett leave? Because he's clearly not wanted and at best he gets one more year. I doubt he really cares who coaches in 2020 if it's not him.

Dunno what Souths intentions are. I'd personally think it's unlikely they'd let Seibold walk.

I've heard Bennett is warming to the idea of coaching us but it's no sure thing.

Cheers for the update.
Appreciate it all the same.
I like your last point.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

I know i’ve said I’d be against a rookie, but I’d be open to Demetriou. Rookies are fine as long as they have a good pedigree. A highly regarded assistant at a marquee club. You’d think he’d know his stuff.

 

[TYGA]

I think Pascoe is a tricky operator using the media to throw everyone off the scent. He is meeting with the POM awaiting Broncos to announce Seibold for 2019 and swoop on Uncle Wayne in England. He’s also offering the best looking secretaries in the NRL.

How’s that for a rumour.

Hope its better than your ''big news next week/last week'' one

Not likely I was attempting humour this time. Last week I was told from a reliable person Maguire was signed and going to be announced. He’s still adamant by I lost faith as it wasn’t announced. He may well be right but it’s hardly a scoop now I could guess the same and be right.

 

[diedpretty]

Is what Bennett had for breakfast this morning a clue?

Darrell Lea Chocolate followed by a Gloria Jeans Hot Chocolate.

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

In order to sound like he has control over Cleary,
iF Cleary asked for a release, why wouldn’t Pascoe have simply said in his release that “Ivan asked for a release”

He didn’t say that,,,,,,,,,,wHY.?
it would actually been more damming for Ivan , and he was obviously trying to make Cleary look as bad as he could
And even Go didn’t mention it , and after all it would have made the clubs position a lot better if he had said that,

Does Ivan have another son that we don’t know about? Because I think I just found him.

Instead of smart ….e answers why don’t you look at facts , why would Pascoe or Go , NOT say that Ivan has asked for a release , ( if he had) instead of just making obscure comments,???
Its a bit like you , doesn’t make sense .

So Penrith are on the record in saying that they approached Ivan and asked him if he was interested in coaching the panthers and he told them yes. What more facts do you want? Why would they lie??

Why wouldn’t he answer yes to the question, that’s public knowledge,
But it does not mean that he Told Go and Pascoe that he wanted a release, and both of those people made it clear that he didn’t ask. That’s what some people can’t seem to understand.
Probably he will end up at the Panthers , I’ve never said that he wouldn’t, what I’ve said is that he Hasnt done anything wrong , and hasn’t broken any rules, and didn’t ask for a release at that stage,,

 

[newtiger]

I know i’ve said I’d be against a rookie, but I’d be open to Demetriou. Rookies are fine as long as they have a good pedigree. A highly regarded assistant at a marquee club. You’d think he’d know his stuff.

Same as Adam O'Brien from the Storm, I know that he has signed with the Roosters.
Most assistant coaches have a get out clause, if they are offered a Head Coach position.
There was talk of South's looking at him if Seibold, was granted an earl release to join the Broncos.

 

[The-moP]

No coach is going to take on a care takers role for 1 year while we wait for Bennett. He's either with us or he's not .. and if he's not .. then we will have a new permanent coach soon

 

[Needaname]

FWIW.
On league unlimited Souths forum are stating Shane Richardson is prepared to let Siebs go early if he accepts the Brisbane job.
Also a few internal rumours there about Souths might be another target for Wayne.
Personally think Souths is a much better fit for Wayne than us.

 

[innsaneink]

I think Pascoe is a tricky operator using the media to throw everyone off the scent. He is meeting with the POM awaiting Broncos to announce Seibold for 2019 and swoop on Uncle Wayne in England. He’s also offering the best looking secretaries in the NRL.

How’s that for a rumour.

Hope its better than your ''big news next week/last week'' one

Not likely I was attempting humour this time. Last week I was told from a reliable person Maguire was signed and going to be announced. He’s still adamant by I lost faith as it wasn’t announced. He may well be right but it’s hardly a scoop now I could guess the same and be right.

hahah…a pisstake? LOL :wink:
All good

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

I dont think so.
Five coaches in five years means we all have come to terms before and we will again

It’d be interesting to see how long Benny would last here , if he did come. He may spend a couple of weeks looking for the rivers of gold that he’s used to having at his clubs

 

[TYGA]

I think Pascoe is a tricky operator using the media to throw everyone off the scent. He is meeting with the POM awaiting Broncos to announce Seibold for 2019 and swoop on Uncle Wayne in England. He’s also offering the best looking secretaries in the NRL.

How’s that for a rumour.

Hope its better than your ''big news next week/last week'' one

Not likely I was attempting humour this time. Last week I was told from a reliable person Maguire was signed and going to be announced. He’s still adamant by I lost faith as it wasn’t announced. He may well be right but it’s hardly a scoop now I could guess the same and be right.

hahah…a pisstake? LOL :wink:
All good

I thought the secretaries was a give away.

That said everyone around the club believes Pascoe is on a mission to sign Wayne. Its key for him as Cleary was sold to the board as a mate of Pascoes. There is a big personal need to atone for Clearys double cross. You don’t do that to mates. If Pascoe ends up without a signature of either Wayne or Madge and Cleary returns his position may be questioned.

 

[TYGA]

FWIW.
On league unlimited Souths forum are stating Shane Richardson is prepared to let Siebs go early if he accepts the Brisbane job.
Also a few internal rumours there about Souths might be another target for Wayne.
Personally think Souths is a much better fit for Wayne than us.

Shane Richardson won’t sign Wayne unless Rusty overrules him. Not a chance in the world that happens. Biggest ego you will ever come across he will go for a rookie coach.
If he lets him go David Furner or Adam O’Brien will get the job.

 

[JD Tiger]

Exactly, it might be a romantic idea to have Cleary scrub toilets for the next 2 years, but it means we’d have two coaches on the books.

But I thought the law experts on here said that wasn’t possible lol.

Barrett has submitted a resignation letter.
Cleary hasnt.

There-in lies the difference…most can see it.

So your saying if you submit a resignation letter and your employer rejects it, and your job description is coach, your employer can now have you cleaning toilets? Enlighten me oh wise one.

I have no idea what an NRL coach's contract looks like, but every duty statement I've ever had has always included the duty of 'and whatever else the employer deems necessary' in it. It's not like they'd make him literally scrub toilets (too good for him), but you don't want him on the front line infecting the players either.

 

[WT2K]

I dont think so.
Five coaches in five years means we all have come to terms before and we will again

It’d be interesting to see how long Benny would last here , if he did come. He may spend a couple of weeks looking for the rivers of gold that he’s used to having at his clubs

We'd probably be the death of him..

 

[TYGA]

But I thought the law experts on here said that wasn’t possible lol.

Barrett has submitted a resignation letter.
Cleary hasnt.

There-in lies the difference…most can see it.

So your saying if you submit a resignation letter and your employer rejects it, and your job description is coach, your employer can now have you cleaning toilets? Enlighten me oh wise one.

I have no idea what an NRL coach's contract looks like, but every duty statement I've ever had has always included the duty of 'and whatever else the employer deems necessary' in it. It's not like they'd make him literally scrub toilets (too good for him), but you don't want him on the front line infecting the players either.

If you resign you have to legally see out your notice period. Usually this is Gardening Leave stay at home and get paid. These periods are usually 4 weeks. In Clearys case he’s had good advice Tigers can only get out of the contract with mutual agreement. The Tigers don’t have to release Cleary and can employ any coach. Titles mean nothing assistant coaches have taken over effective coaching for years Ivan retains the title in name only.

Financially it makes no sense so a release will be negotiated. Penrith want him and if the Tigers sign a coach they would want to cut ties. It’s that simple sign a coach and release him when a fee is paid.

Tigers may choose to derail Penrith and cop the financial pain to send a message.

 

[gallagher]

I dont think so.
Five coaches in five years means we all have come to terms before and we will again

It’d be interesting to see how long Benny would last here , if he did come. He may spend a couple of weeks looking for the rivers of gold that he’s used to having at his clubs

We'd probably be the death of him..

the death of his coaching career at the least.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

They can’t just roll over to release him. Think how weak that will look to the rest of the competition. We already look weak enough under regular circumstances. If Penrith want him, pay up.