2021 Rookies

@sleeve said in [2021 Rookies](/post/1295402) said:
@willow said in [2021 Rookies](/post/1295396) said:
@sleeve said in [2021 Rookies](/post/1295395) said:
@happy_tiger said in [2021 Rookies](/post/1295393) said:
@sleeve said in [2021 Rookies](/post/1295388) said:
Talk about size of half backs.
Cronk178cm 88kg
Alfie 165cm 76kg
Toovey 168 cm 70kg
Madden 180 cm 82kg

Next argument will but they were bigger then.Yeah! Roach,Sirronon,Tallis,Webke,and another 100 were midgets.

I don't think sides were able to isolate players as well back then ..and legs tackles were acceptable back then as well

OH give me a break! Are you another Brooks basher or just a Douiehi at 5/8 fan?

Happy may have played in the NRL once upon a time...just saying.

Point taken,and i would not care if he's C Smith .Cronk has only been out of the game for 1 year,the comments were of little reference,next we will get "but the rules have changed,or the fact that most halves today still leg tackle.

You've brought up players from the 80's ...they played against far different defences and no wrestle ...the leg tackle was more acceptable because getting fast play the balls wasn't as important ....two completely different eras ....yes things worked in both eras ..but if they weren't important in a particular era
 
@willow said in [2021 Rookies](/post/1295396) said:
@sleeve said in [2021 Rookies](/post/1295395) said:
@happy_tiger said in [2021 Rookies](/post/1295393) said:
@sleeve said in [2021 Rookies](/post/1295388) said:
Talk about size of half backs.
Cronk178cm 88kg
Alfie 165cm 76kg
Toovey 168 cm 70kg
Madden 180 cm 82kg

Next argument will but they were bigger then.Yeah! Roach,Sirronon,Tallis,Webke,and another 100 were midgets.

I don't think sides were able to isolate players as well back then ..and legs tackles were acceptable back then as well

OH give me a break! Are you another Brooks basher or just a Douiehi at 5/8 fan?

Happy may have played in the NRL once upon a time...just saying.

BRL pre Broncos .....
 
@happy_tiger said in [2021 Rookies](/post/1295423) said:
@sleeve said in [2021 Rookies](/post/1295402) said:
@willow said in [2021 Rookies](/post/1295396) said:
@sleeve said in [2021 Rookies](/post/1295395) said:
@happy_tiger said in [2021 Rookies](/post/1295393) said:
@sleeve said in [2021 Rookies](/post/1295388) said:
Talk about size of half backs.
Cronk178cm 88kg
Alfie 165cm 76kg
Toovey 168 cm 70kg
Madden 180 cm 82kg

Next argument will but they were bigger then.Yeah! Roach,Sirronon,Tallis,Webke,and another 100 were midgets.

I don't think sides were able to isolate players as well back then ..and legs tackles were acceptable back then as well

OH give me a break! Are you another Brooks basher or just a Douiehi at 5/8 fan?

Happy may have played in the NRL once upon a time...just saying.

Point taken,and i would not care if he's C Smith .Cronk has only been out of the game for 1 year,the comments were of little reference,next we will get "but the rules have changed,or the fact that most halves today still leg tackle.

You've brought up players from the 80's ...they played against far different defences and no wrestle ...the leg tackle was more acceptable because getting fast play the balls wasn't as important ....two completely different eras ....yes things worked in both eras ..but if they weren't important in a particular era

I covered a variety of halves,Cronk was not in the 80's.It was toshow he is not small.You have gone sideways trying to hide your poor augument.Get on google and compare todays halves.Your argument does not hold water.
ps,Nothing personal i like your posts but stay on the point.
 
@sleeve said in [2021 Rookies](/post/1295438) said:
@happy_tiger said in [2021 Rookies](/post/1295423) said:
@sleeve said in [2021 Rookies](/post/1295402) said:
@willow said in [2021 Rookies](/post/1295396) said:
@sleeve said in [2021 Rookies](/post/1295395) said:
@happy_tiger said in [2021 Rookies](/post/1295393) said:
@sleeve said in [2021 Rookies](/post/1295388) said:
Talk about size of half backs.
Cronk178cm 88kg
Alfie 165cm 76kg
Toovey 168 cm 70kg
Madden 180 cm 82kg

Next argument will but they were bigger then.Yeah! Roach,Sirronon,Tallis,Webke,and another 100 were midgets.

I don't think sides were able to isolate players as well back then ..and legs tackles were acceptable back then as well

OH give me a break! Are you another Brooks basher or just a Douiehi at 5/8 fan?

Happy may have played in the NRL once upon a time...just saying.

Point taken,and i would not care if he's C Smith .Cronk has only been out of the game for 1 year,the comments were of little reference,next we will get "but the rules have changed,or the fact that most halves today still leg tackle.

You've brought up players from the 80's ...they played against far different defences and no wrestle ...the leg tackle was more acceptable because getting fast play the balls wasn't as important ....two completely different eras ....yes things worked in both eras ..but if they weren't important in a particular era

I covered a variety of halves,Cronk was not in the 80's.It was toshow he is not small.You have gone sideways trying to hide your poor augument.Get on google and compare todays halves.Your argument does not hold water.
ps,Nothing personal i like your posts but stay on the point.

Cronk would eat Langer and Toovey for breakfast defensively ....Alf would admit himself he would struggle defensively in the modern game .....
 
@happy_tiger said in [2021 Rookies](/post/1295442) said:
@sleeve said in [2021 Rookies](/post/1295438) said:
@happy_tiger said in [2021 Rookies](/post/1295423) said:
@sleeve said in [2021 Rookies](/post/1295402) said:
@willow said in [2021 Rookies](/post/1295396) said:
@sleeve said in [2021 Rookies](/post/1295395) said:
@happy_tiger said in [2021 Rookies](/post/1295393) said:
@sleeve said in [2021 Rookies](/post/1295388) said:
Talk about size of half backs.
Cronk178cm 88kg
Alfie 165cm 76kg
Toovey 168 cm 70kg
Madden 180 cm 82kg

Next argument will but they were bigger then.Yeah! Roach,Sirronon,Tallis,Webke,and another 100 were midgets.

I don't think sides were able to isolate players as well back then ..and legs tackles were acceptable back then as well

OH give me a break! Are you another Brooks basher or just a Douiehi at 5/8 fan?

Happy may have played in the NRL once upon a time...just saying.

Point taken,and i would not care if he's C Smith .Cronk has only been out of the game for 1 year,the comments were of little reference,next we will get "but the rules have changed,or the fact that most halves today still leg tackle.

You've brought up players from the 80's ...they played against far different defences and no wrestle ...the leg tackle was more acceptable because getting fast play the balls wasn't as important ....two completely different eras ....yes things worked in both eras ..but if they weren't important in a particular era

I covered a variety of halves,Cronk was not in the 80's.It was toshow he is not small.You have gone sideways trying to hide your poor augument.Get on google and compare todays halves.Your argument does not hold water.
ps,Nothing personal i like your posts but stay on the point.

Cronk would eat Langer and Toovey for breakfast defensively ....Alf would admit himself he would struggle defensively in the modern game .....

I'd have $100 on Tooves being a better defender than Cronk. Make that $500. Toovey had the mongrel of a prop and no fear whatsoever.
 
@fade-to-black said in [2021 Rookies](/post/1295476) said:
@happy_tiger said in [2021 Rookies](/post/1295442) said:
@sleeve said in [2021 Rookies](/post/1295438) said:
@happy_tiger said in [2021 Rookies](/post/1295423) said:
@sleeve said in [2021 Rookies](/post/1295402) said:
@willow said in [2021 Rookies](/post/1295396) said:
@sleeve said in [2021 Rookies](/post/1295395) said:
@happy_tiger said in [2021 Rookies](/post/1295393) said:
@sleeve said in [2021 Rookies](/post/1295388) said:
Talk about size of half backs.
Cronk178cm 88kg
Alfie 165cm 76kg
Toovey 168 cm 70kg
Madden 180 cm 82kg

Next argument will but they were bigger then.Yeah! Roach,Sirronon,Tallis,Webke,and another 100 were midgets.

I don't think sides were able to isolate players as well back then ..and legs tackles were acceptable back then as well

OH give me a break! Are you another Brooks basher or just a Douiehi at 5/8 fan?

Happy may have played in the NRL once upon a time...just saying.

Point taken,and i would not care if he's C Smith .Cronk has only been out of the game for 1 year,the comments were of little reference,next we will get "but the rules have changed,or the fact that most halves today still leg tackle.

You've brought up players from the 80's ...they played against far different defences and no wrestle ...the leg tackle was more acceptable because getting fast play the balls wasn't as important ....two completely different eras ....yes things worked in both eras ..but if they weren't important in a particular era

I covered a variety of halves,Cronk was not in the 80's.It was toshow he is not small.You have gone sideways trying to hide your poor augument.Get on google and compare todays halves.Your argument does not hold water.
ps,Nothing personal i like your posts but stay on the point.

Cronk would eat Langer and Toovey for breakfast defensively ....Alf would admit himself he would struggle defensively in the modern game .....

I'd have $100 on Tooves being a better defender than Cronk. Make that $500. Toovey had the mongrel of a prop and no fear whatsoever.

Like taking a lollipop from a baby..
 
@happy_tiger said in [2021 Rookies](/post/1295423) said:
@sleeve said in [2021 Rookies](/post/1295402) said:
@willow said in [2021 Rookies](/post/1295396) said:
@sleeve said in [2021 Rookies](/post/1295395) said:
@happy_tiger said in [2021 Rookies](/post/1295393) said:
@sleeve said in [2021 Rookies](/post/1295388) said:
Talk about size of half backs.
Cronk178cm 88kg
Alfie 165cm 76kg
Toovey 168 cm 70kg
Madden 180 cm 82kg

Next argument will but they were bigger then.Yeah! Roach,Sirronon,Tallis,Webke,and another 100 were midgets.

I don't think sides were able to isolate players as well back then ..and legs tackles were acceptable back then as well

OH give me a break! Are you another Brooks basher or just a Douiehi at 5/8 fan?

Happy may have played in the NRL once upon a time...just saying.

Point taken,and i would not care if he's C Smith .Cronk has only been out of the game for 1 year,the comments were of little reference,next we will get "but the rules have changed,or the fact that most halves today still leg tackle.

You've brought up players from the 80's ...they played against far different defences and no wrestle ...the leg tackle was more acceptable because getting fast play the balls wasn't as important ....two completely different eras ....yes things worked in both eras ..but if they weren't important in a particular era

Some clubs even hid their half back behind the line for ‘cover defence’ haha
 
What a load of dribble.It all started from a post saying Madden may be too small to handle the big for forwards such as Papali etc.I just randomly picked 4 random well known great halves including the recent Cooper Cronk to point out that he was not smaller then most halves,i could have included Ash Taylor,Townsend and others just to prove how stupid the comments were.Then the post was railroaded into tackling techniques of the eighties,and then on to who were the best and toughest halves.Sheeet!
 
@sleeve said in [2021 Rookies](/post/1295518) said:
What a load of dribble.It all started from a post saying Madden may be too small to handle the big for forwards such as Papali etc.I just randomly picked 4 random well known great halves including the recent Cooper Cronk to point out that he was not smaller then most halves,i could have included Ash Taylor,Townsend and others just to prove how stupid the comments were.Then the post was railroaded into tackling techniques of the eighties,and then on to who were the best and toughest halves.Sheeet!

That how it rolls
 
@fade-to-black said in [2021 Rookies](/post/1295476) said:
@happy_tiger said in [2021 Rookies](/post/1295442) said:
@sleeve said in [2021 Rookies](/post/1295438) said:
@happy_tiger said in [2021 Rookies](/post/1295423) said:
@sleeve said in [2021 Rookies](/post/1295402) said:
@willow said in [2021 Rookies](/post/1295396) said:
@sleeve said in [2021 Rookies](/post/1295395) said:
@happy_tiger said in [2021 Rookies](/post/1295393) said:
@sleeve said in [2021 Rookies](/post/1295388) said:
Talk about size of half backs.
Cronk178cm 88kg
Alfie 165cm 76kg
Toovey 168 cm 70kg
Madden 180 cm 82kg

Next argument will but they were bigger then.Yeah! Roach,Sirronon,Tallis,Webke,and another 100 were midgets.

I don't think sides were able to isolate players as well back then ..and legs tackles were acceptable back then as well

OH give me a break! Are you another Brooks basher or just a Douiehi at 5/8 fan?

Happy may have played in the NRL once upon a time...just saying.

Point taken,and i would not care if he's C Smith .Cronk has only been out of the game for 1 year,the comments were of little reference,next we will get "but the rules have changed,or the fact that most halves today still leg tackle.

You've brought up players from the 80's ...they played against far different defences and no wrestle ...the leg tackle was more acceptable because getting fast play the balls wasn't as important ....two completely different eras ....yes things worked in both eras ..but if they weren't important in a particular era

I covered a variety of halves,Cronk was not in the 80's.It was toshow he is not small.You have gone sideways trying to hide your poor augument.Get on google and compare todays halves.Your argument does not hold water.
ps,Nothing personal i like your posts but stay on the point.

Cronk would eat Langer and Toovey for breakfast defensively ....Alf would admit himself he would struggle defensively in the modern game .....

I'd have $100 on Tooves being a better defender than Cronk. Make that $500. Toovey had the mongrel of a prop and no fear whatsoever.

Toovs was a great legs defender ....useless unfortunately in the modern game
 
@bagnf05 said in [2021 Rookies](/post/1295506) said:
@happy_tiger said in [2021 Rookies](/post/1295423) said:
@sleeve said in [2021 Rookies](/post/1295402) said:
@willow said in [2021 Rookies](/post/1295396) said:
@sleeve said in [2021 Rookies](/post/1295395) said:
@happy_tiger said in [2021 Rookies](/post/1295393) said:
@sleeve said in [2021 Rookies](/post/1295388) said:
Talk about size of half backs.
Cronk178cm 88kg
Alfie 165cm 76kg
Toovey 168 cm 70kg
Madden 180 cm 82kg

Next argument will but they were bigger then.Yeah! Roach,Sirronon,Tallis,Webke,and another 100 were midgets.

I don't think sides were able to isolate players as well back then ..and legs tackles were acceptable back then as well

OH give me a break! Are you another Brooks basher or just a Douiehi at 5/8 fan?

Happy may have played in the NRL once upon a time...just saying.

Point taken,and i would not care if he's C Smith .Cronk has only been out of the game for 1 year,the comments were of little reference,next we will get "but the rules have changed,or the fact that most halves today still leg tackle.

You've brought up players from the 80's ...they played against far different defences and no wrestle ...the leg tackle was more acceptable because getting fast play the balls wasn't as important ....two completely different eras ....yes things worked in both eras ..but if they weren't important in a particular era

Some clubs even hid their half back behind the line for ‘cover defence’ haha

Mortimer and Lewis quite regularly played in a cover defending role

Both were good defenders ...probably one area of Lewis's game he was underrated ....
 
@sleeve said in [2021 Rookies](/post/1295388) said:
Talk about size of half backs.
Cronk178cm 88kg
Alfie 165cm 76kg
Toovey 168 cm 70kg
Madden 180 cm 82kg

Next argument will but they were bigger then.Yeah! Roach,Sirronon,Tallis,Webke,and another 100 were midgets.

There is no way Madden is 180 cm. 170 maybe.
 
@tigerballs said in [2021 Rookies](/post/1295531) said:
@sleeve said in [2021 Rookies](/post/1295388) said:
Talk about size of half backs.
Cronk178cm 88kg
Alfie 165cm 76kg
Toovey 168 cm 70kg
Madden 180 cm 82kg

Next argument will but they were bigger then.Yeah! Roach,Sirronon,Tallis,Webke,and another 100 were midgets.

There is no way Madden is 180 cm. 170 maybe.

I’d believe it. Brooks is 180.
 
@tiger19 said in [2021 Rookies](/post/1295416) said:
@thaiger said in [2021 Rookies](/post/1295319) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [2021 Rookies](/post/1295314) said:
The number on Brooks' back or Doueihi or Madden's back is irrelevant. Brooks plays left side, Doueihi and Madden right side. It's nice to have Madden available eight now. He's a great propsect for WTs.

Madden looked good to me in 2019.

Please throw in Smith and Mavoni from Jersey Flegg for next year - both weapons. Shame they couldn't have gotten CC experience last year which will hold a few back a bit maybe.

Smith and Mavoni both played for the same junior club as me growing up - Liverpool Catholic Club Raiders.

Mavoni would help us out at training quite regularly. Hope he makes it.

Joey Leilua has been looking after Mavoni and Kei from what I've seen. They're regularly as his house, doing Saturday sessions together and they trained together in the off season too. Will be good for the young fellas and it's good to see Joey take on a more leadership role
 
@bagnf05 said in [2021 Rookies](/post/1295506) said:
Some clubs even hid their half back behind the line for ‘cover defence’ haha


Mitch Moses still gets hidden.
Id imagine Madge and the coaching staff will have Madden’s defence right to defend in the front line (as Brooks does) if he debuts.
 
@jc99 said in [2021 Rookies](/post/1295552) said:
@tiger19 said in [2021 Rookies](/post/1295416) said:
@thaiger said in [2021 Rookies](/post/1295319) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [2021 Rookies](/post/1295314) said:
The number on Brooks' back or Doueihi or Madden's back is irrelevant. Brooks plays left side, Doueihi and Madden right side. It's nice to have Madden available eight now. He's a great propsect for WTs.

Madden looked good to me in 2019.

Please throw in Smith and Mavoni from Jersey Flegg for next year - both weapons. Shame they couldn't have gotten CC experience last year which will hold a few back a bit maybe.

Smith and Mavoni both played for the same junior club as me growing up - Liverpool Catholic Club Raiders.

Mavoni would help us out at training quite regularly. Hope he makes it.

Joey Leilua has been looking after Mavoni and Kei from what I've seen. They're regularly as his house, doing Saturday sessions together and they trained together in the off season too. Will be good for the young fellas and it's good to see Joey take on a more leadership role

The Jersey Flegg boys must be dreading lining Mavoni up in tackling practice each week. Doubt many would be able to stop him effectively.

Whilst our CC side looks like it could be very strong, if Smith and Mavoni go up, we might struggle in the comp this year. I don’t really know much about the squad so we might be surprised but we could be a bit thin.
 
@thaiger said in [2021 Rookies](/post/1295595) said:
@jc99 said in [2021 Rookies](/post/1295552) said:
@tiger19 said in [2021 Rookies](/post/1295416) said:
@thaiger said in [2021 Rookies](/post/1295319) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [2021 Rookies](/post/1295314) said:
The number on Brooks' back or Doueihi or Madden's back is irrelevant. Brooks plays left side, Doueihi and Madden right side. It's nice to have Madden available eight now. He's a great propsect for WTs.

Madden looked good to me in 2019.

Please throw in Smith and Mavoni from Jersey Flegg for next year - both weapons. Shame they couldn't have gotten CC experience last year which will hold a few back a bit maybe.

Smith and Mavoni both played for the same junior club as me growing up - Liverpool Catholic Club Raiders.

Mavoni would help us out at training quite regularly. Hope he makes it.

Joey Leilua has been looking after Mavoni and Kei from what I've seen. They're regularly as his house, doing Saturday sessions together and they trained together in the off season too. Will be good for the young fellas and it's good to see Joey take on a more leadership role

The Jersey Flegg boys must be dreading lining Mavoni up in tackling practice each week. Doubt many would be able to stop him effectively.

Whilst our CC side looks like it could be very strong, if Smith and Mavoni go up, we might struggle in the comp this year. I don’t really know much about the squad so we might be surprised but we could be a bit thin.

Kei is a development player and very good,he is availiable mid year .
 
@willow said in [2021 Rookies](/post/1295396) said:
@sleeve said in [2021 Rookies](/post/1295395) said:
@happy_tiger said in [2021 Rookies](/post/1295393) said:
@sleeve said in [2021 Rookies](/post/1295388) said:
Talk about size of half backs.
Cronk178cm 88kg
Alfie 165cm 76kg
Toovey 168 cm 70kg
Madden 180 cm 82kg

Next argument will but they were bigger then.Yeah! Roach,Sirronon,Tallis,Webke,and another 100 were midgets.

I don't think sides were able to isolate players as well back then ..and legs tackles were acceptable back then as well

OH give me a break! Are you another Brooks basher or just a Douiehi at 5/8 fan?

Happy may have played in the NRL once upon a time...just saying.

:flushed: :thinking_face: :question: :question: :question:
 
Lewis was a lock for qld. He was told he was't fit or good enough in that position to challenge Ray Price or Wayne Pearce in the Australian side,hence his move to 5/8.
 
@happy_tiger said in [2021 Rookies](/post/1295442) said:
@sleeve said in [2021 Rookies](/post/1295438) said:
@happy_tiger said in [2021 Rookies](/post/1295423) said:
@sleeve said in [2021 Rookies](/post/1295402) said:
@willow said in [2021 Rookies](/post/1295396) said:
@sleeve said in [2021 Rookies](/post/1295395) said:
@happy_tiger said in [2021 Rookies](/post/1295393) said:
@sleeve said in [2021 Rookies](/post/1295388) said:
Talk about size of half backs.
Cronk178cm 88kg
Alfie 165cm 76kg
Toovey 168 cm 70kg
Madden 180 cm 82kg

Next argument will but they were bigger then.Yeah! Roach,Sirronon,Tallis,Webke,and another 100 were midgets.

I don't think sides were able to isolate players as well back then ..and legs tackles were acceptable back then as well

OH give me a break! Are you another Brooks basher or just a Douiehi at 5/8 fan?

Happy may have played in the NRL once upon a time...just saying.

Point taken,and i would not care if he's C Smith .Cronk has only been out of the game for 1 year,the comments were of little reference,next we will get "but the rules have changed,or the fact that most halves today still leg tackle.

You've brought up players from the 80's ...they played against far different defences and no wrestle ...the leg tackle was more acceptable because getting fast play the balls wasn't as important ....two completely different eras ....yes things worked in both eras ..but if they weren't important in a particular era

I covered a variety of halves,Cronk was not in the 80's.It was toshow he is not small.You have gone sideways trying to hide your poor augument.Get on google and compare todays halves.Your argument does not hold water.
ps,Nothing personal i like your posts but stay on the point.

Cronk would eat Langer and Toovey for breakfast defensively ....Alf would admit himself he would struggle defensively in the modern game .....

Yeah,he's a bit to old now.lol
 
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