5 Year Plan

[Demps]

Strap in lads, its gonna be a long one...

We need a 5 year plan.
We need to get out of this rutt and become competitive.

We have brought on Sheens and Kimmorley...
Great additions, in my opinion.

What else can be done?

The talking heads are really pushing us to bring Finucane to the club.
Easier said than done...

What do the fans think can be done?

@cochise @isaaktigers @willow @Tiger5150 @hobbo1 @TheDaBoss @TrueTiger @weststigers

 

[Tiger5150]

IMO we are already about 18months into a 5 year plan but the powers that be have had the good sense to keep it to themselves:


* Bring in industry respected recruitment officer in Hartigan

* COE

* Cut out dead wood - ongoing

* Focus on talented juniors

* Bring in Sheens / Kimmorley

Doesnt all this have the hallmarks of a plan?

Its happening but they are smart enough to not spruik it to all and sundry. We just have to have some faith and patience. Throwing it all out now means starting a new 5year plan every 18months.

 

[cochise]

IMO we are already about 18months into a 5 year plan but the powers that be have had the good sense to keep it to themselves:


* Bring in industry respected recruitment officer in Hartigan

* COE

* Cut out dead wood - ongoing

* Focus on talented juniors

* Bring in Sheens / Kimmorley

Doesnt all this have the hallmarks of a plan?

Its happening but they are smart enough to not spruik it to all and sundry. We just have to have some faith and patience. Throwing it all out now means starting a new 5year plan every 18months.

Mate spot on, I can't say it any better

 

[Demps]

IMO we are already about 18months into a 5 year plan but the powers that be have had the good sense to keep it to themselves:


* Bring in industry respected recruitment officer in Hartigan

* COE

* Cut out dead wood - ongoing

* Focus on talented juniors

* Bring in Sheens / Kimmorley

Doesnt all this have the hallmarks of a plan?

Its happening but they are smart enough to not spruik it to all and sundry. We just have to have some faith and patience. Throwing it all out now means starting a new 5year plan every 18months.

Good post. 👍🏻

Bringing one of the tiger GOATS back, in Farah is smart too.

I think recruitment & retention is our biggest issue but as my boy @Tiger5150 said, this will take time.

 

[jadtiger]

IMO we are already about 18months into a 5 year plan but the powers that be have had the good sense to keep it to themselves:


* Bring in industry respected recruitment officer in Hartigan

* COE

* Cut out dead wood - ongoing

* Focus on talented juniors

* Bring in Sheens / Kimmorley

Doesnt all this have the hallmarks of a plan?

Its happening but they are smart enough to not spruik it to all and sundry. We just have to have some faith and patience. Throwing it all out now means starting a new 5year plan every 18months.

Lets hope this 5 year plan goes a lot better than Stalin's 5 year plans used to,though to be fair the idea of gulags mock trials and executions would be popular amongst some of the fan base.

 

[Tiger5150]

IMO we are already about 18months into a 5 year plan but the powers that be have had the good sense to keep it to themselves:


* Bring in industry respected recruitment officer in Hartigan

* COE

* Cut out dead wood - ongoing

* Focus on talented juniors

* Bring in Sheens / Kimmorley

Doesnt all this have the hallmarks of a plan?

Its happening but they are smart enough to not spruik it to all and sundry. We just have to have some faith and patience. Throwing it all out now means starting a new 5year plan every 18months.

Mate spot on, I can't say it any better

The other thing I'd add is that say tomorrow Pascoe came out and announced a perfect 5 year plan and everyone loved the idea.

What would you expect the result to look like for the first 2 years? We are not going to see results for 2-3 years and IMO that is where we are now.

 

[Tim Sheens]

IMO we are already about 18months into a 5 year plan but the powers that be have had the good sense to keep it to themselves:


* Bring in industry respected recruitment officer in Hartigan

* COE

* Cut out dead wood - ongoing

* Focus on talented juniors

* Bring in Sheens / Kimmorley

Doesnt all this have the hallmarks of a plan?

Its happening but they are smart enough to not spruik it to all and sundry. We just have to have some faith and patience. Throwing it all out now means starting a new 5year plan every 18months.

Agreed, the plan is in progress, though I expect that for it to succeed, a change of coach is necessary.

 

[jrtiger]

the plan is already in place. recruit elite young talent and strengthen our junior pools, have faith in the pathways that they will be brought through correctly, and slowly integrate these players into the first grade team. Hartigan and Woodward identify the talent, and Sheens, Kimmorley and Betsey will ensure they get the mentorring they need.

our biggest problem at this stage, is the first grade side. we as fans are understandably impatient, but our reserve grade and 20s side show that the club is in a good place, the first grade side is not. we can't rush these prospects, but as a result we continue to make poor decisions when it comes to recruiting stop gaps. we need to sign players with the right attitude that set the standards for the whole club, because that will trickle down. Finucane is one of these. I don't think we'll sign him, but he is most certainly a player of that ilk. Tamou is similar, cops a fair amount of stick but I do believe he is a good leader, but cannot do it all on his own.

if we can sign players that will drive high standards, we won't necessarily see results in the top flight in the next 1-2 years, but I promise you we'll see them for the next decade after that. look at Melbourne. it is a player driven culture. you sign players that will drive the standards and things will change.

 

[Devon Head]

IMO we are already about 18months into a 5 year plan but the powers that be have had the good sense to keep it to themselves:


* Bring in industry respected recruitment officer in Hartigan

* COE

* Cut out dead wood - ongoing

* Focus on talented juniors

* Bring in Sheens / Kimmorley

Doesnt all this have the hallmarks of a plan?

Its happening but they are smart enough to not spruik it to all and sundry. We just have to have some faith and patience. Throwing it all out now means starting a new 5year plan every 18months.

100% agreed. There's a lot to like about where things are heading and the progress being made behind the scenes. The results haven't been there on field however given the state the club was left in post Ivan, it was always going to take time to right the ship. Sure we all want our team to win now however it doesn't always work like this. Remember in 2015 when Penrith were basically wooden spooners only beating Knights in the last round to avoid it? Now look at them.

There's absolutely no reason why Tigers can't reach similar levels of success with the current off field systems and those still in the works. Having Sheens and Noddy on board is huge in reaching lofty heights. Penrith have basically built that team from their Juniors up. Tigers can easily do the same.

 

[jrtiger]

IMO we are already about 18months into a 5 year plan but the powers that be have had the good sense to keep it to themselves:


* Bring in industry respected recruitment officer in Hartigan

* COE

* Cut out dead wood - ongoing

* Focus on talented juniors

* Bring in Sheens / Kimmorley

Doesnt all this have the hallmarks of a plan?

Its happening but they are smart enough to not spruik it to all and sundry. We just have to have some faith and patience. Throwing it all out now means starting a new 5year plan every 18months.

100% agreed. There's a lot to like about where things are heading and the progress being made behind the scenes. The results haven't been there on field however given the state the club was left in post Ivan, it was always going to take time to right the ship. Sure we all want our team to win now however it doesn't always work like this. Remember in 2015 when Penrith were basically wooden spooners only beating Knights in the last round to avoid it? Now look at them.

There's absolutely no reason why Tigers can't reach similar levels of success with the current off field systems and those still in the works. Having Sheens and Noddy on board is huge in reaching lofty heights. Penrith have basically built that team from their Juniors up. Tigers can easily do the same.

we can, but if you look at the very beginning of Gould's tenure at Penrith, he stripped away the egos and the big money earners and kept together an honest team of toilers that tried their guts out every week. I actually think we're in a bit of a similar situation in comparison. M'Bye, Leilua and Packer will leave at the end of this year. we've got a new centre in Gildart and potentially another on the way in HSS. some of the elite talent of ours is already in the first grade outfit, guys like Laurie, Blore, Seyfarth, Mikaele, Doueihi & Stefano.

it's what we do with the money that is about to become available that will decide our fate in the next couple of years. Isaac Liu and Dale Finucane would be two players that could very quickly change the landscape of this club. it's players like that we need to sign in order to fix things.

 

[the_third]

IMO we are already about 18months into a 5 year plan but the powers that be have had the good sense to keep it to themselves:


* Bring in industry respected recruitment officer in Hartigan

* COE

* Cut out dead wood - ongoing

* Focus on talented juniors

* Bring in Sheens / Kimmorley

Doesnt all this have the hallmarks of a plan?

Its happening but they are smart enough to not spruik it to all and sundry. We just have to have some faith and patience. Throwing it all out now means starting a new 5year plan every 18months.

I agree - I assume that's what's happening but as a fan, it's pretty frustrating that the club doesn't talk to us, doesn't talk to the media. It's all left to assumptions an innuendo.

 

[hobbo1]


@Demps

 

[izotope]

IMO we are already about 18months into a 5 year plan but the powers that be have had the good sense to keep it to themselves:


* Bring in industry respected recruitment officer in Hartigan

* COE

* Cut out dead wood - ongoing

* Focus on talented juniors

* Bring in Sheens / Kimmorley

Doesnt all this have the hallmarks of a plan?

Its happening but they are smart enough to not spruik it to all and sundry. We just have to have some faith and patience. Throwing it all out now means starting a new 5year plan every 18months.

Agree 100%.
This is what keeps me sane anyway.
The hope we will be a strong club for many years once we get the plan right.

Id rather that then a first round finals loss for two years and back to cellar dwellers.

 

[Tiger_Fanatic3]

IMO we are already about 18months into a 5 year plan but the powers that be have had the good sense to keep it to themselves:


* Bring in industry respected recruitment officer in Hartigan

* COE

* Cut out dead wood - ongoing

* Focus on talented juniors

* Bring in Sheens / Kimmorley

Doesnt all this have the hallmarks of a plan?

Its happening but they are smart enough to not spruik it to all and sundry. We just have to have some faith and patience. Throwing it all out now means starting a new 5year plan every 18months.

Tigers have only held the players accountable, however there have been no major changes to the board for the last five years. Since 2017, we have missed out on the likes of Jai Arrow, JAC, etc and not being able to retain. This yet again proves how poorly the club is functioning.

The additions of Sheens and Kimmorley will help and boost recruitment and retention drive, but more changes need to follow in the future. For a real change, we must change the governing body by moving on Pascoe. Pascoe & Cleary are responsible for screwing the club over.

 

[gallagher]

So if the plan started18 months ago, what was everyone doing before then? I've been told we have had great management for the last 6 years. What were they doing?

 

[pawsandclaws1]

Strap in lads, its gonna be a long one...

We need a 5 year plan.
We need to get out of this rutt and become competitive.

We have brought on Sheens and Kimmorley...
Great additions, in my opinion.

What else can be done?

The talking heads are really pushing us to bring Finucane to the club.
Easier said than done...

What do the fans think can be done?

@cochise @isaaktigers @willow @Tiger5150 @hobbo1 @TheDaBoss @TrueTiger @weststigers

Bring in Morris to be mentored by Sheens. Move Maguire to special projects as face saving.

 

[Demps]

Strap in lads, its gonna be a long one...

We need a 5 year plan.
We need to get out of this rutt and become competitive.

We have brought on Sheens and Kimmorley...
Great additions, in my opinion.

What else can be done?

The talking heads are really pushing us to bring Finucane to the club.
Easier said than done...

What do the fans think can be done?

@cochise @isaaktigers @willow @Tiger5150 @hobbo1 @TheDaBoss @TrueTiger @weststigers

Bring in Morris to be mentored by Sheens. Move Maguire to special projects as face saving.

Love it.
I believe madge would make the perfect NSW cup coach.

 

[earl]

So if the plan started18 months ago, what was everyone doing before then? I've been told we have had great management for the last 6 years. What were they doing?

I don't know if you can blame the management of the club though. They punted on Cleary which is understandable and Cleary is the wrong person to lead a club like ours. If you already have the talent I reckon Cleary could be a good buy.

We can't turn this around quickly.

I look at the 76'ers in the NBA. They've built up a good squad but Ben Simmons is an overpaid dud and they will have to adjust. You got to make the best decisions you can at the time and adjust. There is no way every decision will pay off.

You hope that over time though if we continually look to improve we can become a better team and hopefully stay a better team for a number of years.

 

[Snake]

Another 5 yr plan ...I really do not know how you all can swallow all this rubbish ..there is an inherent issue WITHIN this club ..Coaches have come and gone as with players but the mediocrity remains regardless of the personnel changes at football level , what is the real issue then ..maybe there should be a plan to look at this level of the organisation !
Maybe a plan for One Home ground might be nice instead of 6 home grounds might this mind set be the inherent problem .

 

[Aceshigh]

Gotta agree Demps a long term plan is needed , even if we cop some beatings along the way, but the first thing we need to do is stop blaming each other and get onboard