550K well spent or...

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You're right, it's dismal to see that he's had 5 years and still fails to do some of the siumple things like a 5th tackle option etc. I'm definitely not impressed in those stats but also look at the coaching he's had over the past few years too, could be a defining factor. See how he performs over the off-season under Cleary and beside Reynolds who has a wealth of experience too. We may be seeing the best of him in 2018

Bit unfair quoting 5 years imo.

He debuted in round 24, 2013 and had one game. 2014, 2015, 2016 and this year fair enough.

Basically he has had 4 years - most of that time with no direction basically a reserve grade roster and a halves partner that stifled him into almost a slow death. He is still 22 years old - Thurston wasn't any better at that age.

I agree next year with a pack that has a bit of grunt, an experienced halves partner, a full off season with Cleary (he worked wonders teaching his son) and a team without no hopers like Lovett (who thinks millimetres are metres in attack), should do pretty well.

Love your outlook mate, I am excited about next year too, but Brooks has had 77 NRL games and still can't get a repeat set. I think he will stink it up again next year, but I think Gamble will surprise, so I live in hope too

I was quoting TigerTiger on the 5 years, I have lost track on how long these players have been in FG.

The fact still stands - over the 4 years he hasn't had any real directive coaching or top grade footballer beside him leading and influencing him. I just say wait until after this off season because I think he'll surprise.

I was guessing at five years, a close guess.
I have always liked Brooksy, he was better than Moses early on in FG. And still only 22, wow, I thought he was older.

I do like him, I am hoping he can pull it together, he has guts. And seeing him playing well and even being mentioned as a possible contender for Origin would make me very happy.
 
I think it was a telling moment when Webster drilled him from the sideline at 16 all. Speculating only - but maybe some pressure is mounting on Luke to develop his game, and while I have defended him, cant keep excusing less than average performances when we had ample posession and opportunity to give him a platform to really take some control of that game.
Only lost by one and he was ok - but the areas in which we depend on him he consistently falls short. Can pull off individual brilliance, but still not playing like a seasoned first grader. Really needs someone challenging for that position. He has improved his defence so credit there just needs to get the rest of his game in order -
pronto!
 
They can't alwasy predict how the short kicks will go,even old champs get them messed up as well, we should just appreciate them when they come off. As long as 50% of times then okay.
 
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They can't alwasy predict how the short kicks will go,even old champs get them messed up as well, we should just appreciate them when they come off. As long as 50% of times then okay.

I'd be happier with 50% of the time the short kicks coming good, but I'd be surprised if the stats for his kicks shows as high as that. 25% I reckon would be high.

For a couple of years though, seemingly all he (and Moses) did was bomb the ball, and almost never kick short kicks. Must have been under coaches orders, there's no other explanation. So maybe he's still getting used to kicking short kicks again, after being coached not to employ them.
 
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Brooks has had more than enough time to establish himself as a first grader…I have said on many occasions that the team will not reach the next level with Brooks at 7\. His time is up and has to be moved on regardless of the contractual issues or play him in the reggies as frankly that is where he belongs .

Ditto, but apparently he's going to turn into Cooper Thurston and or Johnathan Cronk, his kicking game is going to improve 350% when he gets a few new forwards.
 
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Brooks has had more than enough time to establish himself as a first grader…I have said on many occasions that the team will not reach the next level with Brooks at 7\. His time is up and has to be moved on regardless of the contractual issues or play him in the reggies as frankly that is where he belongs .

Ditto, but apparently he's going to turn into Cooper Thurston and or Johnathan Cronk, his kicking game is going to improve 350% when he gets a few new forwards.

Oh! Goodie we can replace him with JLJ - yeah! that'll work.
 
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Wasted with Brooks. Read in today's Sunday mail up here that Benji will only be offered 100K next season.
Didn't think I'd ever say it but I'd take him over Luke in the blink of an eye.

100K, I would double that instantly and have him as a backup half, Dummy or Center.

He is far better then JLJ, Brooks, most of our squad.
 
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They can't alwasy predict how the short kicks will go,even old champs get them messed up as well, we should just appreciate them when they come off. As long as 50% of times then okay.

I'd be happier with 50% of the time the short kicks coming good, but I'd be surprised if the stats for his kicks shows as high as that. 25% I reckon would be high.

For a couple of years though, seemingly all he (and Moses) did was bomb the ball, and almost never kick short kicks. Must have been under coaches orders, there's no other explanation. So maybe he's still getting used to kicking short kicks again, after being coached not to employ them.

Brooks really is our only kicking option close to the line so it is easy to pressure him. Lolohea has a clever short kicking game but maybe Cleary is attempting to shield him from this pressure.
 
Its something that junior coaches can do a lot more about.
Having a 3 metre box marked out behind the tryline and having to kick( roll) the ball in to the box as a game before training every day( from5 to 10 metres out) can have some surprising results at the end of even one season,
As they get better at it, the box can be made smaller.
If it's made into a team competition, the kids will soon be practising it as soon as they arrive at training.
It's something that can start right back at u6 , as it's fun, and it's competitive throughout the team.
It's never too early, And it works
 
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Its something that junior coaches can do a lot more about.
Having a 3 metre box marked out behind the tryline and having to kick( roll) the ball in to the box as a game before training every day( from5 to 10 metres out) can have some surprising results at the end of even one season,
As they get better at it, the box can be made smaller.
If it's made into a team competition, the kids will soon be practising it as soon as they arrive at training.
It's something that can start right back at u6 , as it's fun, and it's competitive throughout the team.
It's never too early, And it works

As long as they have 100kg+ guys running at them as they try it ..I'm all for it..
 
His biggest problem is his decision making. He's still extremely hesitant all over the field. He second guesses himself and as a result miss-times things all the time, or just plain up makes the wrong decision at the wrong time. The short flat ball to his left edge second rower is a diabolical pet play of his.

He has the skills but still doesn't have the right aptitude of a halfback. Not sure if its the pack. If you get the ball in space on the last, survey your options and make the wrong decision that's on you, not the guy who hit the ball up a few tackles ago. But then again he has the least damaging back row and outside backs in the league to work with. Even Johns would struggle to put our backrowers through a gap.
 
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Its something that junior coaches can do a lot more about.
Having a 3 metre box marked out behind the tryline and having to kick( roll) the ball in to the box as a game before training every day( from5 to 10 metres out) can have some surprising results at the end of even one season,
As they get better at it, the box can be made smaller.
If it's made into a team competition, the kids will soon be practising it as soon as they arrive at training.
It's something that can start right back at u6 , as it's fun, and it's competitive throughout the team.
It's never too early, And it works

As long as they have 100kg+ guys running at them as they try it ..I'm all for it..

Somehow I don't think that that they are quite ready for that, :laughing:
 
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Cant wait to see him play with the pack we have next year. Too many people are quick to judge.

Here's something for the people who seem to think a better pack will improve Brooks.
How good does our pack need to be?
(This is taken from the Tigers v Titans preview.)

"Why the Tigers can win: Ranked seventh in the NRL for metres gained per set, the Tigers forwards have shown that they can get their team on the front foot and their propensity to offload makes them a difficult team to defend through the middle. With an average of 11.2 offloads per game the Tigers rank fourth in the NRL this season for promoting the football"

Plenty there for Brooks to play off the back of, there are 9 teams that make less metres per set than us and 12 teams that have less offloads per game than us.
Yet they're probably all in front of us on the ladder.

As you can see our forwards aren't the problem, they're rolling down the field and getting plenty of offloads away.

Do we need to be 1st for metres gained and 1st for offloads before Brooks improves?
Will next year's pack improve our position of 7th and 4th?
If not, do you still think Brooks will be the player we need him to be next year and onward. Why?
 
Brooks continues to underwhelm for mine.

I'm starting to wonder whether he will ever really make it just as a first grader.

He has not improved since 2014 which is staggering really.
 
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Brooks continues to underwhelm for mine.

I'm starting to wonder whether he will ever really make it just as a first grader.

He has not improved since 2014 which is staggering really.

He said that he will now take charge of the team now that Moses has gone :laughing:
 
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Bit unfair quoting 5 years imo.

He debuted in round 24, 2013 and had one game. 2014, 2015, 2016 and this year fair enough.

Basically he has had 4 years - most of that time with no direction basically a reserve grade roster and a halves partner that stifled him into almost a slow death. He is still 22 years old - **Thurston wasn't any better at that age.**

I agree next year with a pack that has a bit of grunt, an experienced halves partner, a full off season with Cleary (he worked wonders teaching his son) and a team without no hopers like Lovett (who thinks millimetres are metres in attack), should do pretty well.

Yeah, Thurston was no better at that age. That's why he played Origin in 2005 and got the Cowboys to the Grand Final…....................at the age of 22.

Maybe we should look at signing a backup in case Brooks doesn't kick on next year. I'd imagine it will be his last chance as well, with Cleary here and everything.
 
Probably sounds crazy, but I think a lot of his problems stem from his personality. He seems scared of his own shadow, how do you expect him to bark out orders to his forward pack.
 
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Brooks continues to underwhelm for mine.

I'm starting to wonder whether he will ever really make it just as a first grader.

He has not improved since 2014 which is staggering really.

I share your sentiments, Eddie. I was really hoping that the club would go on the lookout for an experienced halfback because I really don't think Brooks is up to controlling a team and I'm not sure the partnership with Reynolds will work. I wonder if we could entice Trent Hodkinson over to come and play alongside his old mate Josh. Now there's a partnership I'd have more confidence in! Or even get Jeff Robson, who is off contract at the end of the year.

There are options, but it appears that Cleary is banking it all on Brooks to lead the team around next season and it doesn't fill me with much confidence at all.
 

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