Saturnalia
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@MacDougall said:
Making the 8 is a succesful season?
That'll do me.
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Making the 8 is a succesful season?
That'll do me.
MacDougall
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You wouldn't be saying that if we hadn't made the finals the last two years.
See post above.
See post above.
I'm over his crap team selections, poor recruitment, ill disciple and the general culture amongst the club. But what I'm over most of all is the fact he's never once been held accountable. Who is to blame? Sheens for not holding himself and the team responsible, or the Board for not holding Sheens responsible? Either way, it's time that questions start getting asked. A record of 3/15 is abysmal
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Saturnalia
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@MacDougall said:
Developing New Talent
Developing Game plans
Recruitment
Retention
Keeping Players performing (Motivation)
Managing Roster Depth
Winning Games
These are the areas (not an exhaustive list) that the head coach is responsible for.
If I could see some sort of progression, improvement, changes that would help us improve in some of these areas then progress is being made.
it isn't.
tig_prmz
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people keep paying tooo much attention to the results.
just sooo over it all. losing interest.
now that we expect nothing from 2013, hopefully we manage to scrape into the top 8.
just sooo over it all. losing interest.
now that we expect nothing from 2013, hopefully we manage to scrape into the top 8.
I was happy with the endings of seasons '10 and '11 we had successful 3rd thirds to both years. However both contained average starts and abysmal middle thirds. They were considered successful years because the team came home with wet sails both times and made the years look better than they actually were.
I consider it a sucessful season when you win or come very close to the minor premiership. Any team can fluke some finals games where dangerous sides are upset and knocked out to help you along….you can not fluke a minor premiership.
So in my opinion, just making the 8 is not a successful season...it is barely a pass mark.
I consider it a sucessful season when you win or come very close to the minor premiership. Any team can fluke some finals games where dangerous sides are upset and knocked out to help you along….you can not fluke a minor premiership.
So in my opinion, just making the 8 is not a successful season...it is barely a pass mark.
GNR4LIFE
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Fair enough, i give him credit for '10 and '11 but he really lost the plot this yr in everything he did from team selections to the fact he couldn't identify which area's we needed to strengthen for 2013\. He just said ''what the hell lets just buy more back-rowers''. Come to think of it, it all started the day he let Gibbs and Fifita walk out and decided to keep a guy whose name sounds like something you'd find growing on the side of your neck, and ironically has about as much talent as.
Saturnalia
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@stryker said:
This!
Massively this!
2012: 9th
2011: 4th
2010: 3rd
2009: 9th
2008: 10th
2007: 9th
2006: 1th
Aside from 2 outstanding years, our performances have stayed roughly the same.
MacDougall
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You are all spoilt.
A few more seasons missing the eight and you will be begging to scrape into eighth place.
But seriously scraping into eighth place for us this year would not have been success nor did I say that. I was merely saying that last year and the year before were successes. Especially in light of the fact that we were not expected to even make the eight in 2010\. 2010 being a real success and 2011 being a pass. 2012 though would not have been a pass unless we made the grand final imo.
A few more seasons missing the eight and you will be begging to scrape into eighth place.
But seriously scraping into eighth place for us this year would not have been success nor did I say that. I was merely saying that last year and the year before were successes. Especially in light of the fact that we were not expected to even make the eight in 2010\. 2010 being a real success and 2011 being a pass. 2012 though would not have been a pass unless we made the grand final imo.
MacDougall
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@GNR4LIFE said:
Lol hindsight is a wonderful thing. I and many others here thought Groat was definitely a bigger talent than Fifita at the end of last year. Not all, but certainly many. Losing Gibbs was a massive blow and the dumbest decision in the world. Of all players to lose, he should have been the last.
GNR4LIFE
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@stryker said:
The top 8 system as a whole rewards mediocrity. The aim should be to have a system where every side has some kind of realistic shot at winning it. I think a top 6 would make things much more competitive and the sides would be a lot more even. As it stands now you can just put a line through Canberra and Brisbane for the finals, the other 6 sides you can at the very least make some kind of case for
Saturnalia
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@GNR4LIFE said:
Any play-off system rewards mediocrity though. I mean is there any real doubt that Canterbury were the best team this year?
MacDougall
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Yes because not every team plays each other twice. Ergo we really have to have a playoff system. Also the Dogs 12 game run included some REALLY OBVIOUS questionable results lol.
Top 5 system would be the best for competition but TV rights etc. etc
Top 5 system would be the best for competition but TV rights etc. etc
supercoach
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For me its not about missing the eight, its the fact we are so far off the pace. On what I saw last night Manly or Souths would have put 50 on us
tiger4ever
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not a successful season….but not a disaster either...not going to neck myself over it.
Im disapointed in the last 2 rounds....showed no desperation at all....some players need to refund some of their contract money.
rave on about bulldogs and souths...they didnt make the 8 last year did they
Im disapointed in the last 2 rounds....showed no desperation at all....some players need to refund some of their contract money.
rave on about bulldogs and souths...they didnt make the 8 last year did they
supercoach
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@tiger4ever said:
Yeh but what have they both have in common?????
hybrid_tiger
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@supercoach said:
Exactly, they made changes. They refused to accept mediocrity.
851
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@supercoach said:
Amen to that
851
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@hybrid_tiger said:
They have CEO's with nuts,who are willing to do whatever it takes to win,we have a yellow belly CEO and board who are willing to cop Sheens"s pathetic results and excuses,when if they sacked him the club would prosper and their jobs would be safer.
tiger4ever
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they have had a successful season they made the 8….where were they the last few years....souths don't accept mediocrity...lol
if sheens got punted which i think he wont....you watch him get a gig instantly with another club
You experts must know something other clubs haven't seen over 650 nrl games
if sheens got punted which i think he wont....you watch him get a gig instantly with another club
You experts must know something other clubs haven't seen over 650 nrl games
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