Tigerdave
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@cqtiger said:
well, Pearce was the only one not to play under Jones. We went from 5th to 12th in a year, probably a little more to it than the players being a year older and no Junior
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well, Pearce was the only one not to play under Jones. We went from 5th to 12th in a year, probably a little more to it than the players being a year older and no Junior
They just interviewed Alan Jones on Foxsports news.
Apart from continually referring to the club as Balmain and taking away my general dislike of the guy I have to agree with everything he has said.
When you find yourself agreeing with Alan Jones over the people running the club you support, serious questions have to be asked.
Apart from continually referring to the club as Balmain and taking away my general dislike of the guy I have to agree with everything he has said.
When you find yourself agreeing with Alan Jones over the people running the club you support, serious questions have to be asked.
cqtiger
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@Tigerdave said:
Well you missed the point.
Warren Ryan admitted that they were a spent force
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larrycorowa
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He is a gibberer of the highest order
gallagher
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Just saw the interview on fox sports. He was impressive if you know nothing about the NRL. To NRL fans he's just embarrassed himself. He's an expert on what's going on at the club but thinks the club is called balmain. I couldn't stop laughing.
Tim Sheens
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@Tony33 said:
When you know those answers you will realise you should have dismissed his comments as per normal. I know that you like Robbie and being of the same heritage also plays a part, but unlike some, you also normally see through the PR dished up and don't pretend that he is a saint.
By not setting out the true reasons for his dismissal, and that is what it really is, the club has been out manoeuvred and murdered on the PR front.
haberfield_tiger
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I think Alan Jones is the perfect reverse indicator. I hope the coach and the board stick to their guns and move robbie on, it will be good for Robbie and good for the tigers. After that i hope he takes a broom to the VB cup squad and sweep the ploders out, our depth has been terrible this year and everyone who has come up has not cut it bar a few.
@white said:
Was a very strong squad of very motivated players, a number of players on that tour are not always complimentry of Jones as a coach. Some (notably Fitzsimons) are scathing.
Jones always sides with the player, he often goes off half cock with limited information, not surprising he has gone hard at Taylor and Go
Tigerdave
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@cqtiger said:
Didn't miss the point, just disagree with Wok to a certain extent. Jones changed the halves, for no particular reason and wanted to change the style of play that didn't suit the game at all and stuck with that tact for 3 years.
GNR4LIFE
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How did he even get a coaching certificate to begin with to coach the Wallabies and Balmain? Was it just one big joke? What background has he ever had in either code?
littletiger
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It would be nice to see someone in media with the guts to come out and support Taylor. It's the easy option to back Robbie now and seeing the quality of people coming out and backing him makes u think.
im all for taylor, robbie has played his own game in the forwards and not played as a team untill this last game, and thats what the coach wanted
if robbie feeds the halves we will win games
its a team game not your game robbie you lost us half our games with your style of play
stop thinking you are the worlds best player
west99
if robbie feeds the halves we will win games
its a team game not your game robbie you lost us half our games with your style of play
stop thinking you are the worlds best player
west99
Peter FitzSimons wrote the following in todays SMH:
Yes, the one-time "Balmain basket-weavers," as Paul Keating once famously described them, now have a Tigers rugby league team made to order – their very own basket case – but still.
But still, in recent times they have been seen to be committing radical surgery to get things going again, under the leadership of Marina Go, the accomplished publishing executive.
This surgery includes attempting to drop Robbie Farah off at the next station, basically, as detailed by Fairfax Media, because while he is an outstanding player, he is no longer a million-dollar a year performer, and nor is he any longer the leader of the Tiger troupe a player of that calibre should be. And of course the move to drop a legend of the club has attracted a great deal of criticism, no doubt much of it legitimate.
I don't pretend to know the ins and outs of what is right and wrong re Farah but I can tell you this, and I mean it: When they line up the 25 million of us Australians in order of who has the credibility to bitterly attack the Tigers board for doing what they have done – with No.1 standing at the gates of Leichhardt Oval – the person I want to see at the very back of the queue, on Perth's Cottesloe Beach, with the waves washing his knobbly knees, is the broadcaster, Alan Jones.
This, of course, hasn't stopped Jones going in full bore, as he is ever wont to do, accusing Marina Go of "running the club it into the ground in 12 months".
Well, to be fair, Alan, it demonstrably didn't take you that long! When you took over the Tigers as coach after the 1990 season, it was one short year after they had been a good enough team to have been within a breath of winning the classic 1989 grand final.
In 1990 they came fifth. But then you took over, and after losing seven of their first eight matches, finished the season 12th. Next year, under your coaching they came 10th and the year after that, still under your coaching, 15th, at which point you were let go as a disaster. You had taken them from fifth to 15th in three years.
Despite that, Alan, you then open up on the failings of Jason Taylor as a Tigers coach, who inherited a team coming 13th and is now 14th – but may rise three slots to 11th if they beat the struggling Dragons this week!
"The bloke can't select and can't coach," you said. "My understanding is that the players support Robbie Farah. When a club is in difficulty, you need iconic figures like this to drag the young kids through. It's clear. This bloke [Taylor] is 'my way or the highway'."
Alan, you coached me, and in rugby union you were excellent. But are you the one who can criticise others for the "my way or the highway" approach?
And when it comes to lecturing others about not dropping icons of the club, let's see what you did when you were at the Tigers, Alan. Oh, that's right, you dropped the Tigers halfback and captain, the Kiwi captain at the time, the heart and soul of the side – Gary Freeman – to reserve grade!
He was demonstrably the best and most inspiring player New Zealand could produce, but in your view, your protege and former Wallaby Brian Smith, who had never played league, was better.
Smith, you endlessly told the players was "the next Ricky Stuart!" As noted to me over the years by many of your players, and many league journos, it remains the most gobsmacking selectorial decision any of them had ever seen, before or since! Let's look at it again: Freeman to reserve grade, at the expense of young Brian. Freeman went to the Roosters and had his best rugby league season ever, winning the Dally M Medal in 1992, as the best player in the game that year. Smith went nowhere.
But, please, do go on.
"The woman in charge is named Go and she should go," you squawked.
Brilliant! Who is writing these lines for you? "Go … should go," geddit, geddit, geddit?
We got it.
"I believe Taylor was booed at the game in Campbelltown," you went on. "The public have had their say."
Ah, the booing again. You are a professional boo-er, Alan, the best in the business of bully-boy booing radio. You could, and do, boo for Australia. It's great for ratings. But for the rest of us, it is worth noting who you are booing, as a good guide to who we should support.
Go on!
"This is before this woman even arrived," you said, "she wouldn't know anything about this."
Exactly, Alan. Because she's a woman, am I right? If I had a dollar every time you've said with vitriol "this woman," about women in positions of power – that aren't Bronwyn or Julie Bishop – I would never need work again!
In short, Alan, I repeat. There are others who might credibly criticise what is happening at the Tigers, but you ain't one of them. And once again, your hypocrisy has set a new post-war record. The depressing thing is you keep doing it, as you have smashed your own record, by my count, 110 times now.
When you coached the Wallabies and Tigers you swore you would not be one of those former supremos who endlessly criticised the current set-up. Any chance that you, who portray yourself as one who holds others to account on their promises, could try and keep that one? Just for a few weeks?
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/wests-tigers/why-alan-jones-should-be-last-person-criticising-wests-tigers-over-robbie-farah-dispute-20150902-gjd87s.html#ixzz3kY7lWfuU
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Yes, the one-time "Balmain basket-weavers," as Paul Keating once famously described them, now have a Tigers rugby league team made to order – their very own basket case – but still.
But still, in recent times they have been seen to be committing radical surgery to get things going again, under the leadership of Marina Go, the accomplished publishing executive.
This surgery includes attempting to drop Robbie Farah off at the next station, basically, as detailed by Fairfax Media, because while he is an outstanding player, he is no longer a million-dollar a year performer, and nor is he any longer the leader of the Tiger troupe a player of that calibre should be. And of course the move to drop a legend of the club has attracted a great deal of criticism, no doubt much of it legitimate.
I don't pretend to know the ins and outs of what is right and wrong re Farah but I can tell you this, and I mean it: When they line up the 25 million of us Australians in order of who has the credibility to bitterly attack the Tigers board for doing what they have done – with No.1 standing at the gates of Leichhardt Oval – the person I want to see at the very back of the queue, on Perth's Cottesloe Beach, with the waves washing his knobbly knees, is the broadcaster, Alan Jones.
This, of course, hasn't stopped Jones going in full bore, as he is ever wont to do, accusing Marina Go of "running the club it into the ground in 12 months".
Well, to be fair, Alan, it demonstrably didn't take you that long! When you took over the Tigers as coach after the 1990 season, it was one short year after they had been a good enough team to have been within a breath of winning the classic 1989 grand final.
In 1990 they came fifth. But then you took over, and after losing seven of their first eight matches, finished the season 12th. Next year, under your coaching they came 10th and the year after that, still under your coaching, 15th, at which point you were let go as a disaster. You had taken them from fifth to 15th in three years.
Despite that, Alan, you then open up on the failings of Jason Taylor as a Tigers coach, who inherited a team coming 13th and is now 14th – but may rise three slots to 11th if they beat the struggling Dragons this week!
"The bloke can't select and can't coach," you said. "My understanding is that the players support Robbie Farah. When a club is in difficulty, you need iconic figures like this to drag the young kids through. It's clear. This bloke [Taylor] is 'my way or the highway'."
Alan, you coached me, and in rugby union you were excellent. But are you the one who can criticise others for the "my way or the highway" approach?
And when it comes to lecturing others about not dropping icons of the club, let's see what you did when you were at the Tigers, Alan. Oh, that's right, you dropped the Tigers halfback and captain, the Kiwi captain at the time, the heart and soul of the side – Gary Freeman – to reserve grade!
He was demonstrably the best and most inspiring player New Zealand could produce, but in your view, your protege and former Wallaby Brian Smith, who had never played league, was better.
Smith, you endlessly told the players was "the next Ricky Stuart!" As noted to me over the years by many of your players, and many league journos, it remains the most gobsmacking selectorial decision any of them had ever seen, before or since! Let's look at it again: Freeman to reserve grade, at the expense of young Brian. Freeman went to the Roosters and had his best rugby league season ever, winning the Dally M Medal in 1992, as the best player in the game that year. Smith went nowhere.
But, please, do go on.
"The woman in charge is named Go and she should go," you squawked.
Brilliant! Who is writing these lines for you? "Go … should go," geddit, geddit, geddit?
We got it.
"I believe Taylor was booed at the game in Campbelltown," you went on. "The public have had their say."
Ah, the booing again. You are a professional boo-er, Alan, the best in the business of bully-boy booing radio. You could, and do, boo for Australia. It's great for ratings. But for the rest of us, it is worth noting who you are booing, as a good guide to who we should support.
Go on!
"This is before this woman even arrived," you said, "she wouldn't know anything about this."
Exactly, Alan. Because she's a woman, am I right? If I had a dollar every time you've said with vitriol "this woman," about women in positions of power – that aren't Bronwyn or Julie Bishop – I would never need work again!
In short, Alan, I repeat. There are others who might credibly criticise what is happening at the Tigers, but you ain't one of them. And once again, your hypocrisy has set a new post-war record. The depressing thing is you keep doing it, as you have smashed your own record, by my count, 110 times now.
When you coached the Wallabies and Tigers you swore you would not be one of those former supremos who endlessly criticised the current set-up. Any chance that you, who portray yourself as one who holds others to account on their promises, could try and keep that one? Just for a few weeks?
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/wests-tigers/why-alan-jones-should-be-last-person-criticising-wests-tigers-over-robbie-farah-dispute-20150902-gjd87s.html#ixzz3kY7lWfuU
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