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@balmain-boy said in [Alex Johnston Contract Discussion](/post/1097920) said:
@Newtown said in [Alex Johnston Contract Discussion](/post/1097896) said:
Abbey wasn't in the latest casualty listings. He could be the one to slot in at fullback.

I really don't know why people are hung up on this kid. He's a looong way from a first grade spot.

He wasn't listed because he isn't contracted to WT. He'll get a CC contract in a couple of months time (unless we're desperate) and we'll see where he's at with form and fitness throughout the year. Might get signed as number 30 in our roster. He only played 4 games last year, and 2of those he didn't even last 12 mins. Played a dozen games the season before. He's had injury after injury and needs time to physically and mentally prove he's ready play week to week for starters.

Abbey, for some, is the new Tom Humble, both are/were borderline 1st graders at best but several here were constantly touting Humble.......
 
@GNR4LIFE said in [Alex Johnston Contract Discussion](/post/1097985) said:
How long till the “but he doesn’t wanna play for us” brigade show up.

Not far off. Give it another week.
 
@Russell said in [Alex Johnston Contract Discussion](/post/1097966) said:
@ElleryHanley said in [Alex Johnston Contract Discussion](/post/1097958) said:
@Tigerjan said in [Alex Johnston Contract Discussion](/post/1097891) said:
Not sure what to make of these rumour's about AJ signing with WT again .... Justin Pascoe replied to someone on twitter asking .....Surely the @WestsTigers wouldn't be dumb enough to take Alex Johnston
@JustinPascoeWT ? Why help an opponent out of their own mess?
Pascoe's response was .....We will only make decisions that are favorable to Wests Tigers - **no one else**.

I would take that as we are not signing AJ.....so who is fibbing :woman-shrugging:

https://twitter.com/JustinPascoeWT/status/1213768531013062656


Pascoe also said matterson would not be released unless it benefitted wests tigers....

Parra got an 18th man for nsw

We got....hang on....

We got freed up cap space 400k roughly and we got rid of a sook and someone that would have disrupted the whole team and caused havoc.

I would say that is favourable to the Wests Tigers myself.

Not if you don't spend it!
 
@Telltails said in [Alex Johnston Contract Discussion](/post/1097965) said:
@ElleryHanley said in [Alex Johnston Contract Discussion](/post/1097958) said:
@Tigerjan said in [Alex Johnston Contract Discussion](/post/1097891) said:
Not sure what to make of these rumour's about AJ signing with WT again .... Justin Pascoe replied to someone on twitter asking .....Surely the @WestsTigers wouldn't be dumb enough to take Alex Johnston
@JustinPascoeWT ? Why help an opponent out of their own mess?
Pascoe's response was .....We will only make decisions that are favorable to Wests Tigers - **no one else**.

I would take that as we are not signing AJ.....so who is fibbing :woman-shrugging:

https://twitter.com/JustinPascoeWT/status/1213768531013062656


Pascoe also said matterson would not be released unless it benefitted wests tigers....

Parra got an 18th man for nsw

We got....hang on....

Pascoe/co and Politis/co must be on the same page when it comes to letting players go who are viewed as being not committed to the club...no matter how good they are.


It shows loyalty , ethics and strength. If it’s true or not , well that’s a different question entirely.
LM and Matterson both showed disloyalty and were both shown the door. The reality is , Matto IS replaceable . There is a kid somewhere just as good waiting for his chance.
We just have to be better at identifying that kid .
 
@happy_tiger said in [Alex Johnston Contract Discussion](/post/1097982) said:
@Telltails said in [Alex Johnston Contract Discussion](/post/1097965) said:
@ElleryHanley said in [Alex Johnston Contract Discussion](/post/1097958) said:
@Tigerjan said in [Alex Johnston Contract Discussion](/post/1097891) said:
Not sure what to make of these rumour's about AJ signing with WT again .... Justin Pascoe replied to someone on twitter asking .....Surely the @WestsTigers wouldn't be dumb enough to take Alex Johnston
@JustinPascoeWT ? Why help an opponent out of their own mess?
Pascoe's response was .....We will only make decisions that are favorable to Wests Tigers - **no one else**.

I would take that as we are not signing AJ.....so who is fibbing :woman-shrugging:

https://twitter.com/JustinPascoeWT/status/1213768531013062656


Pascoe also said matterson would not be released unless it benefitted wests tigers....

Parra got an 18th man for nsw

We got....hang on....

Pascoe/co and Politis/co must be on the same page when it comes to letting players go who are viewed as being not committed to the club...no matter how good they are.

Pity we haven't won back to back premierships like Politis and his crew

Following Politis' path could be quite tricky for Pascoe.
 
@Newtown said in [Alex Johnston Contract Discussion](/post/1098000) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Alex Johnston Contract Discussion](/post/1097982) said:
@Telltails said in [Alex Johnston Contract Discussion](/post/1097965) said:
@ElleryHanley said in [Alex Johnston Contract Discussion](/post/1097958) said:
@Tigerjan said in [Alex Johnston Contract Discussion](/post/1097891) said:
Not sure what to make of these rumour's about AJ signing with WT again .... Justin Pascoe replied to someone on twitter asking .....Surely the @WestsTigers wouldn't be dumb enough to take Alex Johnston
@JustinPascoeWT ? Why help an opponent out of their own mess?
Pascoe's response was .....We will only make decisions that are favorable to Wests Tigers - **no one else**.

I would take that as we are not signing AJ.....so who is fibbing :woman-shrugging:

https://twitter.com/JustinPascoeWT/status/1213768531013062656


Pascoe also said matterson would not be released unless it benefitted wests tigers....

Parra got an 18th man for nsw

We got....hang on....

Pascoe/co and Politis/co must be on the same page when it comes to letting players go who are viewed as being not committed to the club...no matter how good they are.

Pity we haven't won back to back premierships like Politis and his crew

Following Politis' path could be quite tricky for Pascoe.

The other difference is Politis and his crew make sure they have able back up before they let these players go
 
@Russell said in [Alex Johnston Contract Discussion](/post/1097966) said:
@ElleryHanley said in [Alex Johnston Contract Discussion](/post/1097958) said:
@Tigerjan said in [Alex Johnston Contract Discussion](/post/1097891) said:
Not sure what to make of these rumour's about AJ signing with WT again .... Justin Pascoe replied to someone on twitter asking .....Surely the @WestsTigers wouldn't be dumb enough to take Alex Johnston
@JustinPascoeWT ? Why help an opponent out of their own mess?
Pascoe's response was .....We will only make decisions that are favorable to Wests Tigers - **no one else**.

I would take that as we are not signing AJ.....so who is fibbing :woman-shrugging:

https://twitter.com/JustinPascoeWT/status/1213768531013062656


Pascoe also said matterson would not be released unless it benefitted wests tigers....

Parra got an 18th man for nsw

We got....hang on....

We got freed up cap space 400k roughly and we got rid of a sook and someone that would have disrupted the whole team and caused havoc.

I would say that is favourable to the Wests Tigers myself.


If that is our standard mate, then releasing EVERY unhappy player and clearing space is the way to go...

That is why the Storm released JAC and asked for nothing but cap space also. Hang on.....
 
@happy_tiger said in [Alex Johnston Contract Discussion](/post/1098002) said:
@Newtown said in [Alex Johnston Contract Discussion](/post/1098000) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Alex Johnston Contract Discussion](/post/1097982) said:
@Telltails said in [Alex Johnston Contract Discussion](/post/1097965) said:
@ElleryHanley said in [Alex Johnston Contract Discussion](/post/1097958) said:
@Tigerjan said in [Alex Johnston Contract Discussion](/post/1097891) said:
Not sure what to make of these rumour's about AJ signing with WT again .... Justin Pascoe replied to someone on twitter asking .....Surely the @WestsTigers wouldn't be dumb enough to take Alex Johnston
@JustinPascoeWT ? Why help an opponent out of their own mess?
Pascoe's response was .....We will only make decisions that are favorable to Wests Tigers - **no one else**.

I would take that as we are not signing AJ.....so who is fibbing :woman-shrugging:

https://twitter.com/JustinPascoeWT/status/1213768531013062656


Pascoe also said matterson would not be released unless it benefitted wests tigers....

Parra got an 18th man for nsw

We got....hang on....

Pascoe/co and Politis/co must be on the same page when it comes to letting players go who are viewed as being not committed to the club...no matter how good they are.

Pity we haven't won back to back premierships like Politis and his crew

Following Politis' path could be quite tricky for Pascoe.

The other difference is Politis and his crew make sure they have able back up before they let these players go

Who is to say that our coach doesnt feel the same about our back up in that position?To my knowledge Latrell certainly hasn't been replaced by someone new to the club of equal quality, which seems to be the problem that some have with how our club has managed Matterson leaving.
Looks like any excuse to throw stones to me.
 
@Strongee said in [Alex Johnston Contract Discussion](/post/1097999) said:
@Telltails said in [Alex Johnston Contract Discussion](/post/1097965) said:
@ElleryHanley said in [Alex Johnston Contract Discussion](/post/1097958) said:
@Tigerjan said in [Alex Johnston Contract Discussion](/post/1097891) said:
Not sure what to make of these rumour's about AJ signing with WT again .... Justin Pascoe replied to someone on twitter asking .....Surely the @WestsTigers wouldn't be dumb enough to take Alex Johnston
@JustinPascoeWT ? Why help an opponent out of their own mess?
Pascoe's response was .....We will only make decisions that are favorable to Wests Tigers - **no one else**.

I would take that as we are not signing AJ.....so who is fibbing :woman-shrugging:

https://twitter.com/JustinPascoeWT/status/1213768531013062656


Pascoe also said matterson would not be released unless it benefitted wests tigers....

Parra got an 18th man for nsw

We got....hang on....

Pascoe/co and Politis/co must be on the same page when it comes to letting players go who are viewed as being not committed to the club...no matter how good they are.


It shows loyalty , ethics and strength. If it’s true or not , well that’s a different question entirely.
LM and Matterson both showed disloyalty and were both shown the door. The reality is , Matto IS replaceable . There is a kid somewhere just as good waiting for his chance.
We just have to be better at identifying that kid .


Luke Garner
 
@dazza65 said in [Alex Johnston Contract Discussion](/post/1097989) said:
@balmain-boy said in [Alex Johnston Contract Discussion](/post/1097920) said:
@Newtown said in [Alex Johnston Contract Discussion](/post/1097896) said:
Abbey wasn't in the latest casualty listings. He could be the one to slot in at fullback.

I really don't know why people are hung up on this kid. He's a looong way from a first grade spot.

He wasn't listed because he isn't contracted to WT. He'll get a CC contract in a couple of months time (unless we're desperate) and we'll see where he's at with form and fitness throughout the year. Might get signed as number 30 in our roster. He only played 4 games last year, and 2of those he didn't even last 12 mins. Played a dozen games the season before. He's had injury after injury and needs time to physically and mentally prove he's ready play week to week for starters.

Abbey, for some, is the new Tom Humble, both are/were borderline 1st graders at best but several here were constantly touting Humble.......


Tom Humble.....haha...he showed some real good form in some of his games for us
 
@Telltails said in [Alex Johnston Contract Discussion](/post/1098025) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Alex Johnston Contract Discussion](/post/1098002) said:
@Newtown said in [Alex Johnston Contract Discussion](/post/1098000) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Alex Johnston Contract Discussion](/post/1097982) said:
@Telltails said in [Alex Johnston Contract Discussion](/post/1097965) said:
@ElleryHanley said in [Alex Johnston Contract Discussion](/post/1097958) said:
@Tigerjan said in [Alex Johnston Contract Discussion](/post/1097891) said:
Not sure what to make of these rumour's about AJ signing with WT again .... Justin Pascoe replied to someone on twitter asking .....Surely the @WestsTigers wouldn't be dumb enough to take Alex Johnston
@JustinPascoeWT ? Why help an opponent out of their own mess?
Pascoe's response was .....We will only make decisions that are favorable to Wests Tigers - **no one else**.

I would take that as we are not signing AJ.....so who is fibbing :woman-shrugging:

https://twitter.com/JustinPascoeWT/status/1213768531013062656


Pascoe also said matterson would not be released unless it benefitted wests tigers....

Parra got an 18th man for nsw

We got....hang on....

Pascoe/co and Politis/co must be on the same page when it comes to letting players go who are viewed as being not committed to the club...no matter how good they are.

Pity we haven't won back to back premierships like Politis and his crew

Following Politis' path could be quite tricky for Pascoe.

The other difference is Politis and his crew make sure they have able back up before they let these players go

Who is to say that our coach doesnt feel the same about our back up in that position?To my knowledge Latrell certainly hasn't been replaced by someone new to the club of equal quality, which seems to be the problem that some have with how our club has managed Matterson leaving.
Looks like any excuse to throw stones to me.

You haven't watched Billy Smith play .....Latrell's replacement at about a 1/5 of the price
 
Seriously some people errrr. Everyone knows we have trouble attracting top line talent but you all want someone to blame. Sorry guys Pascoe ain't that man, blame the people directly responsible for making us a laughing stock for the last decade. Coaches and players included.
 
@happy_tiger said in [Alex Johnston Contract Discussion](/post/1098031) said:
@Telltails said in [Alex Johnston Contract Discussion](/post/1098025) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Alex Johnston Contract Discussion](/post/1098002) said:
@Newtown said in [Alex Johnston Contract Discussion](/post/1098000) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Alex Johnston Contract Discussion](/post/1097982) said:
@Telltails said in [Alex Johnston Contract Discussion](/post/1097965) said:
@ElleryHanley said in [Alex Johnston Contract Discussion](/post/1097958) said:
@Tigerjan said in [Alex Johnston Contract Discussion](/post/1097891) said:
Not sure what to make of these rumour's about AJ signing with WT again .... Justin Pascoe replied to someone on twitter asking .....Surely the @WestsTigers wouldn't be dumb enough to take Alex Johnston
@JustinPascoeWT ? Why help an opponent out of their own mess?
Pascoe's response was .....We will only make decisions that are favorable to Wests Tigers - **no one else**.

I would take that as we are not signing AJ.....so who is fibbing :woman-shrugging:

https://twitter.com/JustinPascoeWT/status/1213768531013062656


Pascoe also said matterson would not be released unless it benefitted wests tigers....

Parra got an 18th man for nsw

We got....hang on....

Pascoe/co and Politis/co must be on the same page when it comes to letting players go who are viewed as being not committed to the club...no matter how good they are.

Pity we haven't won back to back premierships like Politis and his crew

Following Politis' path could be quite tricky for Pascoe.

The other difference is Politis and his crew make sure they have able back up before they let these players go

Who is to say that our coach doesnt feel the same about our back up in that position?To my knowledge Latrell certainly hasn't been replaced by someone new to the club of equal quality, which seems to be the problem that some have with how our club has managed Matterson leaving.
Looks like any excuse to throw stones to me.

You haven't watched Billy Smith play .....Latrell's replacement at about a 1/5 of the price

No one is irreplaceable. One player lost is another players opportunity at all clubs. Especially for those who want to be there
 
@Telltails said in [Alex Johnston Contract Discussion](/post/1098042) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Alex Johnston Contract Discussion](/post/1098031) said:
@Telltails said in [Alex Johnston Contract Discussion](/post/1098025) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Alex Johnston Contract Discussion](/post/1098002) said:
@Newtown said in [Alex Johnston Contract Discussion](/post/1098000) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Alex Johnston Contract Discussion](/post/1097982) said:
@Telltails said in [Alex Johnston Contract Discussion](/post/1097965) said:
@ElleryHanley said in [Alex Johnston Contract Discussion](/post/1097958) said:
@Tigerjan said in [Alex Johnston Contract Discussion](/post/1097891) said:
Not sure what to make of these rumour's about AJ signing with WT again .... Justin Pascoe replied to someone on twitter asking .....Surely the @WestsTigers wouldn't be dumb enough to take Alex Johnston
@JustinPascoeWT ? Why help an opponent out of their own mess?
Pascoe's response was .....We will only make decisions that are favorable to Wests Tigers - **no one else**.

I would take that as we are not signing AJ.....so who is fibbing :woman-shrugging:

https://twitter.com/JustinPascoeWT/status/1213768531013062656


Pascoe also said matterson would not be released unless it benefitted wests tigers....

Parra got an 18th man for nsw

We got....hang on....

Pascoe/co and Politis/co must be on the same page when it comes to letting players go who are viewed as being not committed to the club...no matter how good they are.

Pity we haven't won back to back premierships like Politis and his crew

Following Politis' path could be quite tricky for Pascoe.

The other difference is Politis and his crew make sure they have able back up before they let these players go

Who is to say that our coach doesnt feel the same about our back up in that position?To my knowledge Latrell certainly hasn't been replaced by someone new to the club of equal quality, which seems to be the problem that some have with how our club has managed Matterson leaving.
Looks like any excuse to throw stones to me.

You haven't watched Billy Smith play .....Latrell's replacement at about a 1/5 of the price

No one is irreplaceable. One player lost is another players opportunity at all clubs. Especially for those who want to be there

So who is the like for like replacement for Matterson who is a 1/5 of the price
 
@happy_tiger said in [Alex Johnston Contract Discussion](/post/1098044) said:
@Telltails said in [Alex Johnston Contract Discussion](/post/1098042) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Alex Johnston Contract Discussion](/post/1098031) said:
@Telltails said in [Alex Johnston Contract Discussion](/post/1098025) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Alex Johnston Contract Discussion](/post/1098002) said:
@Newtown said in [Alex Johnston Contract Discussion](/post/1098000) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Alex Johnston Contract Discussion](/post/1097982) said:
@Telltails said in [Alex Johnston Contract Discussion](/post/1097965) said:
@ElleryHanley said in [Alex Johnston Contract Discussion](/post/1097958) said:
@Tigerjan said in [Alex Johnston Contract Discussion](/post/1097891) said:
Not sure what to make of these rumour's about AJ signing with WT again .... Justin Pascoe replied to someone on twitter asking .....Surely the @WestsTigers wouldn't be dumb enough to take Alex Johnston
@JustinPascoeWT ? Why help an opponent out of their own mess?
Pascoe's response was .....We will only make decisions that are favorable to Wests Tigers - **no one else**.

I would take that as we are not signing AJ.....so who is fibbing :woman-shrugging:

https://twitter.com/JustinPascoeWT/status/1213768531013062656


Pascoe also said matterson would not be released unless it benefitted wests tigers....

Parra got an 18th man for nsw

We got....hang on....

Pascoe/co and Politis/co must be on the same page when it comes to letting players go who are viewed as being not committed to the club...no matter how good they are.

Pity we haven't won back to back premierships like Politis and his crew

Following Politis' path could be quite tricky for Pascoe.

The other difference is Politis and his crew make sure they have able back up before they let these players go

Who is to say that our coach doesnt feel the same about our back up in that position?To my knowledge Latrell certainly hasn't been replaced by someone new to the club of equal quality, which seems to be the problem that some have with how our club has managed Matterson leaving.
Looks like any excuse to throw stones to me.

You haven't watched Billy Smith play .....Latrell's replacement at about a 1/5 of the price

No one is irreplaceable. One player lost is another players opportunity at all clubs. Especially for those who want to be there

So who is the like for like replacement for Matterson who is a 1/5 of the price

Not privy to what players are paid - I'd be guessing only - and the like replacement you have named is like in position only at this point of his career.
 
AJ is an okay player but I hope we aren't paying much. Unlike topflight players, he tends to get dominated when being tackled which really hampers a set of six when he's returning the ball as fullback. He's also not a strong tackler so he's not a player that has a big impact on games. He's a smart and very reliable footballer and has pace but, as others have said, he's not a very good distributor. A cheap contract and he's a very useful winger/fullback; if we're absorbing most of his contract then we're hindering our ability to improve. He's definitely not a player that will lift a side or change games. For that reason we should be saving the big dollars for players who are. Sorry to be pessimistic but I suspect, given our negotiating form, that we'd pay too much and not use our leverage based on the fact that no one else wants him and he's on an inflated contract that needs to be gotten rid of.
 
@Telltails said in [Alex Johnston Contract Discussion](/post/1098046) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Alex Johnston Contract Discussion](/post/1098044) said:
@Telltails said in [Alex Johnston Contract Discussion](/post/1098042) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Alex Johnston Contract Discussion](/post/1098031) said:
@Telltails said in [Alex Johnston Contract Discussion](/post/1098025) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Alex Johnston Contract Discussion](/post/1098002) said:
@Newtown said in [Alex Johnston Contract Discussion](/post/1098000) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Alex Johnston Contract Discussion](/post/1097982) said:
@Telltails said in [Alex Johnston Contract Discussion](/post/1097965) said:
@ElleryHanley said in [Alex Johnston Contract Discussion](/post/1097958) said:
@Tigerjan said in [Alex Johnston Contract Discussion](/post/1097891) said:
Not sure what to make of these rumour's about AJ signing with WT again .... Justin Pascoe replied to someone on twitter asking .....Surely the @WestsTigers wouldn't be dumb enough to take Alex Johnston
@JustinPascoeWT ? Why help an opponent out of their own mess?
Pascoe's response was .....We will only make decisions that are favorable to Wests Tigers - **no one else**.

I would take that as we are not signing AJ.....so who is fibbing :woman-shrugging:

https://twitter.com/JustinPascoeWT/status/1213768531013062656


Pascoe also said matterson would not be released unless it benefitted wests tigers....

Parra got an 18th man for nsw

We got....hang on....

Pascoe/co and Politis/co must be on the same page when it comes to letting players go who are viewed as being not committed to the club...no matter how good they are.

Pity we haven't won back to back premierships like Politis and his crew

Following Politis' path could be quite tricky for Pascoe.

The other difference is Politis and his crew make sure they have able back up before they let these players go

Who is to say that our coach doesnt feel the same about our back up in that position?To my knowledge Latrell certainly hasn't been replaced by someone new to the club of equal quality, which seems to be the problem that some have with how our club has managed Matterson leaving.
Looks like any excuse to throw stones to me.

You haven't watched Billy Smith play .....Latrell's replacement at about a 1/5 of the price

No one is irreplaceable. One player lost is another players opportunity at all clubs. Especially for those who want to be there

So who is the like for like replacement for Matterson who is a 1/5 of the price

Not privy to what players are paid - I'd be guessing only - and the like replacement you have named is like in position only at this point of his career.

Seyfarth
 
I just do not understand why this guy would be signed .. he is not that much of an upgrade from what is already on the books ... why not save your money and have a big dig at someone that is a huge upgrade even if you have to wait a while ! Seems just a signing for the sake of it ! But these are the types of decisions made regularly by the club , hence no on field success.
 
@Snake said in [Alex Johnston Contract Discussion](/post/1098066) said:
I just do not understand why this guy would be signed .. he is not that much of an upgrade from what is already on the books ... why not save your money and have a big dig at someone that is a huge upgrade even if you have to wait a while ! Seems just a signing for the sake of it ! But these are the types of decisions made regularly by the club , hence no on field success.

Okay but who would they target? They've still got to spend a certain amount and the amount you don't spend doesn't roll over to the next season. We have to have a certain number of players on the books in 1sts. He'd not be expensive. They've already made a big offer to Mitchell that he's turned down.
 

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