Alex Seyfarth #232

@avocadoontoast said in [Seyfarth](/post/1458335) said:
@tig_prmz said in [Seyfarth](/post/1458334) said:
Questions have to be asked of the medical staff for clearing him to play here.

Hope he is fit and healthy before pre-season. He is quite critical along with Stefano and Blore for our forward stocks next year.

I agree, there was absolutely no need to play him today. Was reckless.

Was there info on his injury suggesting it was not completely healed and he was touch n go as to him being good to play?
 
@tig_prmz said in [Seyfarth](/post/1458334) said:
Questions have to be asked of the medical staff for clearing him to play here.

Hope he is fit and healthy before pre-season. He is quite critical along with Stefano and Blore for our forward stocks next year.

I trust the medical staff would put all injured players through a series of tests before medically clearing them to play - and would not put themselves or the players at risk if they did not pass by allowing them to take the field
 
@telltails said in [Seyfarth](/post/1458504) said:
@tig_prmz said in [Seyfarth](/post/1458334) said:
Questions have to be asked of the medical staff for clearing him to play here.

Hope he is fit and healthy before pre-season. He is quite critical along with Stefano and Blore for our forward stocks next year.

I trust the medical staff would put all injured players through a series of tests before medically clearing them to play - and would not put themselves or the players at risk if they did not pass by allowing them to take the field

There was no upside in playing him.
 
There was nothing reckless about him playing.

He was cleared following a legitimate rehab protocol and testing regime for the appropriate amount of time for an MCL (2-4 weeks for a Grade 2). The mechanism of reinjury was an accident and had nothing to do with the ligament not being sufficiently rehabbed. He would have been functionally sound for the clearance to go ahead.

Stop throwing ridiculous pejoratives at people on the staff when you don't understand the basics of the this type of process.
 
@kelce68 said in [Seyfarth](/post/1458529) said:
There was nothing reckless about him playing.

He was cleared following a legitimate rehab protocol and testing regime for the appropriate amount of time for an MCL (2-4 weeks for a Grade 2). The mechanism of reinjury was an accident and had nothing to do with the ligament not being sufficiently rehabbed. He would have been functionally sound for the clearance to go ahead.

Stop throwing ridiculous pejoratives at people on the staff when you don't understand the basics of the this type of process.

Do you think it would have been more sensible to focus on getting himself 100% right instead? There was no upside to having him play yesterday, only downside.
 
@avocadoontoast said in [Seyfarth](/post/1458544) said:
@kelce68 said in [Seyfarth](/post/1458529) said:
There was nothing reckless about him playing.

He was cleared following a legitimate rehab protocol and testing regime for the appropriate amount of time for an MCL (2-4 weeks for a Grade 2). The mechanism of reinjury was an accident and had nothing to do with the ligament not being sufficiently rehabbed. He would have been functionally sound for the clearance to go ahead.

Stop throwing ridiculous pejoratives at people on the staff when you don't understand the basics of the this type of process.

Do you think it would have been more sensible to focus on getting himself 100% right instead? There was no upside to having him play yesterday, only downside.

I think he would have been 100% right for him to have been cleared to play.
 
@avocadoontoast said in [Seyfarth](/post/1458544) said:
@kelce68 said in [Seyfarth](/post/1458529) said:
There was nothing reckless about him playing.

He was cleared following a legitimate rehab protocol and testing regime for the appropriate amount of time for an MCL (2-4 weeks for a Grade 2). The mechanism of reinjury was an accident and had nothing to do with the ligament not being sufficiently rehabbed. He would have been functionally sound for the clearance to go ahead.

Stop throwing ridiculous pejoratives at people on the staff when you don't understand the basics of the this type of process.

Do you think it would have been more sensible to focus on getting himself 100% right instead? There was no upside to having him play yesterday, only downside.

Don't know, I trust our medical team, but gee, he was dynamic in the minutes he played, he is going to be good for us next year?
 
@thedaboss said in [Seyfarth](/post/1458542) said:
@demps said in [Seyfarth](/post/1458491) said:
Thoughts with the Lebanese Viking.
Hoping for a full recovery and a great 2022.

Team Seyfarth
2k22 ??

Big red ?

Without the 2 year turf toe plodding
 
@avocadoontoast said in [Seyfarth](/post/1458544) said:
@kelce68 said in [Seyfarth](/post/1458529) said:
There was nothing reckless about him playing.

He was cleared following a legitimate rehab protocol and testing regime for the appropriate amount of time for an MCL (2-4 weeks for a Grade 2). The mechanism of reinjury was an accident and had nothing to do with the ligament not being sufficiently rehabbed. He would have been functionally sound for the clearance to go ahead.

Stop throwing ridiculous pejoratives at people on the staff when you don't understand the basics of the this type of process.

Do you think it would have been more sensible to focus on getting himself 100% right instead? There was no upside to having him play yesterday, only downside.

The coach under the pump !
 
@tilllindemann said in [Seyfarth](/post/1458551) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Seyfarth](/post/1458544) said:
@kelce68 said in [Seyfarth](/post/1458529) said:
There was nothing reckless about him playing.

He was cleared following a legitimate rehab protocol and testing regime for the appropriate amount of time for an MCL (2-4 weeks for a Grade 2). The mechanism of reinjury was an accident and had nothing to do with the ligament not being sufficiently rehabbed. He would have been functionally sound for the clearance to go ahead.

Stop throwing ridiculous pejoratives at people on the staff when you don't understand the basics of the this type of process.

Do you think it would have been more sensible to focus on getting himself 100% right instead? There was no upside to having him play yesterday, only downside.

I think he would have been 100% right for him to have been cleared to play.

So the heavy strapping from groin to ankle was for show or confidence? It looked like he could not change direction.
 
@gcfan said in [Seyfarth](/post/1458502) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Seyfarth](/post/1458335) said:
@tig_prmz said in [Seyfarth](/post/1458334) said:
Questions have to be asked of the medical staff for clearing him to play here.

Hope he is fit and healthy before pre-season. He is quite critical along with Stefano and Blore for our forward stocks next year.

I agree, there was absolutely no need to play him today. Was reckless.

Was there info on his injury suggesting it was not completely healed and he was touch n go as to him being good to play?

Like most things on the internet it was 100% opinion.
 
@telltails said in [Seyfarth](/post/1458504) said:
@tig_prmz said in [Seyfarth](/post/1458334) said:
Questions have to be asked of the medical staff for clearing him to play here.

Hope he is fit and healthy before pre-season. He is quite critical along with Stefano and Blore for our forward stocks next year.

I trust the medical staff would put all injured players through a series of tests before medically clearing them to play - and would not put themselves or the players at risk if they did not pass by allowing them to take the field

I trust them too, infact our injury rates this year have been awesome. However, the fact stands that this was rushed with no upside. MCL re-injury rates are pretty high, or a significant injury to affected or unaffected knee. Just because you have passed the physical tests doesn't always mean you're ready. Again, we aren't professionals but we have to think that there should be some type of questions asked.
 
@kelce68 said in [Seyfarth](/post/1458529) said:
There was nothing reckless about him playing.

He was cleared following a legitimate rehab protocol and testing regime for the appropriate amount of time for an MCL (2-4 weeks for a Grade 2). The mechanism of reinjury was an accident and had nothing to do with the ligament not being sufficiently rehabbed. He would have been functionally sound for the clearance to go ahead.

Stop throwing ridiculous pejoratives at people on the staff when you don't understand the basics of the this type of process.

I do understand, and for a grade 2, it's a minimum of 4 weeks not 2-4 weeks. I'm not blaming a physio or a coach or S&C co-ordinator. It was a collective decision which was wrong. No one is going to be fired over it, but someone does need to be held accountable.
 
@tig_prmz said in [Seyfarth](/post/1458628) said:
@kelce68 said in [Seyfarth](/post/1458529) said:
There was nothing reckless about him playing.

He was cleared following a legitimate rehab protocol and testing regime for the appropriate amount of time for an MCL (2-4 weeks for a Grade 2). The mechanism of reinjury was an accident and had nothing to do with the ligament not being sufficiently rehabbed. He would have been functionally sound for the clearance to go ahead.

Stop throwing ridiculous pejoratives at people on the staff when you don't understand the basics of the this type of process.

I do understand, and for a grade 2, it's a minimum of 4 weeks not 2-4 weeks. I'm not blaming a physio or a coach or S&C co-ordinator. It was a collective decision which was wrong. No one is going to be fired over it, but someone does need to be held accountable.

If it is 4 weeks, can you imagine a medical professional giving him clearance after 2 weeks? I cannot especially with only a couple of games left in the season. Someone really needs to be disciplined.
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Seyfarth](/post/1458632) said:
@tig_prmz said in [Seyfarth](/post/1458628) said:
@kelce68 said in [Seyfarth](/post/1458529) said:
There was nothing reckless about him playing.

He was cleared following a legitimate rehab protocol and testing regime for the appropriate amount of time for an MCL (2-4 weeks for a Grade 2). The mechanism of reinjury was an accident and had nothing to do with the ligament not being sufficiently rehabbed. He would have been functionally sound for the clearance to go ahead.

Stop throwing ridiculous pejoratives at people on the staff when you don't understand the basics of the this type of process.

I do understand, and for a grade 2, it's a minimum of 4 weeks not 2-4 weeks. I'm not blaming a physio or a coach or S&C co-ordinator. It was a collective decision which was wrong. No one is going to be fired over it, but someone does need to be held accountable.

If it is 4 weeks, can you imagine a medical professional giving him clearance after 2 weeks? I cannot especially with only a couple of games left in the season. Someone really needs to be disciplined.

I thought he came back after 5 weeks?
 
@madge said in [Seyfarth](/post/1458635) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Seyfarth](/post/1458632) said:
@tig_prmz said in [Seyfarth](/post/1458628) said:
@kelce68 said in [Seyfarth](/post/1458529) said:
There was nothing reckless about him playing.

He was cleared following a legitimate rehab protocol and testing regime for the appropriate amount of time for an MCL (2-4 weeks for a Grade 2). The mechanism of reinjury was an accident and had nothing to do with the ligament not being sufficiently rehabbed. He would have been functionally sound for the clearance to go ahead.

Stop throwing ridiculous pejoratives at people on the staff when you don't understand the basics of the this type of process.

I do understand, and for a grade 2, it's a minimum of 4 weeks not 2-4 weeks. I'm not blaming a physio or a coach or S&C co-ordinator. It was a collective decision which was wrong. No one is going to be fired over it, but someone does need to be held accountable.

If it is 4 weeks, can you imagine a medical professional giving him clearance after 2 weeks? I cannot especially with only a couple of games left in the season. Someone really needs to be disciplined.

I thought he came back after 5 weeks?

Yeah but facts don't matter, let's pile in on the club and accuse them of medical negligence regardless!
 
@harvey said in [Seyfarth](/post/1458617) said:
@tilllindemann said in [Seyfarth](/post/1458551) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Seyfarth](/post/1458544) said:
@kelce68 said in [Seyfarth](/post/1458529) said:
There was nothing reckless about him playing.

He was cleared following a legitimate rehab protocol and testing regime for the appropriate amount of time for an MCL (2-4 weeks for a Grade 2). The mechanism of reinjury was an accident and had nothing to do with the ligament not being sufficiently rehabbed. He would have been functionally sound for the clearance to go ahead.

Stop throwing ridiculous pejoratives at people on the staff when you don't understand the basics of the this type of process.

Do you think it would have been more sensible to focus on getting himself 100% right instead? There was no upside to having him play yesterday, only downside.

I think he would have been 100% right for him to have been cleared to play.

So the heavy strapping from groin to ankle was for show or confidence? It looked like he could not change direction.

It was not strapping from groin to ankle. It was a medial ligament cross strap as a precaution for a player returning from a medial strain.

Standard procedure in ALL rehab. It does not affect lateral movement, if anything, it may stop a degree or two of knee extension, meaning the hamstring mightve been a little sore after the game.
 
@tig_prmz said in [Seyfarth](/post/1458626) said:
@telltails said in [Seyfarth](/post/1458504) said:
@tig_prmz said in [Seyfarth](/post/1458334) said:
Questions have to be asked of the medical staff for clearing him to play here.

Hope he is fit and healthy before pre-season. He is quite critical along with Stefano and Blore for our forward stocks next year.

I trust the medical staff would put all injured players through a series of tests before medically clearing them to play - and would not put themselves or the players at risk if they did not pass by allowing them to take the field

I trust them too, infact our injury rates this year have been awesome. However, the fact stands that this was rushed with no upside. MCL re-injury rates are pretty high, or a significant injury to affected or unaffected knee. Just because you have passed the physical tests doesn't always mean you're ready. Again, we aren't professionals but we have to think that there should be some type of questions asked.

I have no knowledge or facts to presume or question anything, other than to believe the club have people in place to manage injuries, with medical knowledge and procedures that are followed and assessed before clearing a player fit to play.
 
@tig_prmz said in [Seyfarth](/post/1458628) said:
@kelce68 said in [Seyfarth](/post/1458529) said:
There was nothing reckless about him playing.

He was cleared following a legitimate rehab protocol and testing regime for the appropriate amount of time for an MCL (2-4 weeks for a Grade 2). The mechanism of reinjury was an accident and had nothing to do with the ligament not being sufficiently rehabbed. He would have been functionally sound for the clearance to go ahead.

Stop throwing ridiculous pejoratives at people on the staff when you don't understand the basics of the this type of process.

I do understand, and for a grade 2, it's a minimum of 4 weeks not 2-4 weeks. I'm not blaming a physio or a coach or S&C co-ordinator. It was a collective decision which was wrong. No one is going to be fired over it, but someone does need to be held accountable.

I am a physio. That is incorrect.
 
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