All Finals at SFS/ANZ?

[stryker]

Maybe the top 4 should be rewarded with monetary values for slogging it out all season to acheive high ladder finishing.

The showcase of the season proper is the finals and as such they should be played on the big stage. It is a terrible look for the game when a final is played in front of 18 000 when AFL is getting 80.

Atmosphere wise, Leichhardt and Cambpelltown have nothing on a packed SFS.

 

[2041]

I hate the argument that by playing at bigger grounds more fans can get in. Honestly in this country you don't know how lucky you are - you can pretty much get into any game, any time. If the Tigers played a home final at Leichhardt and you miss out on a ticket, well, you snooze you lose.

So on last season's match against the Roosters, we shut out 18,000 paying customers? In that instance, Wests Tigers lose as well as those fans who "snoozed"

The game needs to move forward. If you want to play at your home ground, increase capacity. This was part of the criteria in 1999, competitive pressures are now moving to ensure all clubs play in the best stadiums.

Well we wouldn't have shut out 18,000 customers - the attendance at the Roosters final was 33,315 and the stated capacity of Leichhardt Oval is 22,000 so you're out by nearly 7,000, but I take your point. Of course the club could split the difference by increasing the ticket price for home ground finals but that would induce the usual round of "wah wah, I can't take my kids and have hot dogs" moaning. Try going to football in the UK then come back and complain about $30 tickets.

For me the bottom line is that clubs attract the biggest crowds by winning games. There is such a thing as home advantage (by which I do not mean that clubs win 100% of their home games, so yes I know that we won in Canberra and Townsville this year and it proves nothing). Therefore clubs have to weigh up the value of short-term profit maximisation (playing in the biggest ground available) versus the long-term value of giving yourself the best chance to win.

Incidentally, I am broadly in favour of the Tigers playing most of their home finals at the SFS. I didn't like it against the Roosters because it really did give away home advantage but in a game against virtually anyone else I'd say sure, bring it on. It should be the club's choice, but in general I'd favour maximising home advantage. After all, if you win game one you get game two as well and all the crowd that brings.

 

[Gary_Bakerloo]

Leichhardt cannot hold 22,000\. Full house sign went up for the Storm match and the stated crowd was 20500.

If you finish in the top 3, you should win no matter where you play. Yes, the 4th v 5th match is a 50/50 match, but 4th has only be eliminated after the first week once from memory. That is the benefit of finishing in the top 4 - you generally survive to week 2 if you lose.

 

[Chris]

The NRL takes all the money from the semi final series and the Grand Final. Clubs don't make a penny out of playing in the semis. However, if a CEO was smart enough, he could command some cash from the NRL.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

The NRL takes all the money from the semi final series and the Grand Final. Clubs don't make a penny out of playing in the semis. However, if a CEO was smart enough, he could command some cash from the NRL.

Once the IC is in place though, this will benefit the clubs.

 

[cunno]

I didn't say that was the reason we lost. I remember last year that a lot of people ( you may not have been one of them ) were angry/frustrated/confused that the game was not played at Leichhardt. All I said that why would you give your opponent an advantage of having the game played at a mutual ground. I understand that it could have been for money or to get more fans but I reckon that home grounds have a massive advantage.
For example, if the semi was to be played between us and Dragons, of course us Tigers fans would rather the game to be at the SFS or anywhere other than the Dragons actual home ground. But if it was the other way around, that it was our home game then of course I know I would want to have it at Leichhardt, for the atmosphere and also for the Tigers fans there to lift the boys, I don't know what you want but Thats what I would want and my opinion and I'm sure other people would want the same thing.

I understand what you are saying about a home ground advantage but the SFS is also one of our home grounds and whilst it is clear you would have preferred to play the game at Leichhardt, which would have suited me as well, I also enjoyed the game being at the SFS, had a good time, plenty of Wests Tigers fans were there and for that matter I would have been just as happy if the game had of been played at Campbelltown as I would have gone there as well.

 

[shane2801]

Gary Bakerloo I agree 100% with all of your posts on this thread.
As for 2041 and his idea about showing ticket stubs, well thats just retarded.
As for myself I have only been to one game this year. Souths at ANZ. After that performance why would I shell out to go and see more games. Especially the way we have been playing. If they improve and make the finals, then I will go. This is the reason I do not buy a membership. Simple

 

[innsaneink]

Yeh and you know the club will offer memberships once its known we are in the finals, to gain all the ticket purchasing advantages memmberships offer, effectively giving members that have been members all year no advantage for their outlay/ sacrifice & support

The whole set up is a joke, teams like Brisbane and melbourne if they finish high enough can play their entire semis series at home before making a GF - unfair

Clubs will offer memberships once its known theyre in the semis giving memmbers that have coughed up big $$$ & been there all year no advantage, more members, less tickets = unfair

Im sure all sydney teams will start doing it if theyre not already….''fans'' will only turn up at semis time

 

[Gary_Bakerloo]

The whole set up is a joke, teams like Brisbane and melbourne if they finish high enough can play their entire semis series at home before making a GF - unfair

I don't think it is unfair, just a fact of life in a national competition. We need to compete with Brisbane and Melbourne both on and off the field.

We need to dominate the Sydney market and hopefully a couple of Sydney clubs are relocated/extinguished. Then each remaining Sydney club would be pulling massive crowds to rival or even exceed that of Brisbane.

 

[mikey]

If it is the case that any team that uses either SFS or ANZ as a home ground must use the other ground for a final I am OK with that.

I agree with Ink. The problem is with QLD teams that have a 'home' semi as the Ponies will still be playing on their homeground (not sure where the cowgirls and Titans would play). If Sydney teams must play away from their homegrounds and give up that advantage, then I think there must also be an equitable arrangement for the those clubs that must play QLD teams.

 

[happy_tiger]

If it is the case that any team that uses either SFS or ANZ as a home ground must use the other ground for a final I am OK with that.

I agree with Ink. The problem is with QLD teams that have a 'home' semi as the Ponies will still be playing on their homeground (not sure where the cowgirls and Titans would play). If Sydney teams must play away from their homegrounds and give up that advantage, then I think there must also be an equitable arrangement for the those clubs that must play QLD teams.

Cowboys and Titans (ha ha ) would have to play at Lang Park my understanding is . Not sure on Melbourne or the Warriors though

 

[happy_tiger]

Maybe semis could be played home and away Like soccer does and points differential would become a part .But I agree you should get some reward for finishing top 2\. Cutting it to top 6 imo is the answer .

 

[prattenpark]

Let's see how this works.
We'll never have to play St George, Manly, Parra, Penrith or the Sharks at their home ground in a semi final or final.
And if we are lucky enough to be entitled to a home semi, we play it at one of our home grounds, the SFS.
Sounds bloody awesome to me.

 

[innsaneink]

Let's see how this works.
We'll never have to play St George, Manly, Parra, Penrith or the Sharks at their home ground in a semi final or final.
And if we are lucky enough to be entitled to a home semi, we play it at one of our home grounds, the SFS.
Sounds bloody awesome to me.

Which part of the JV do the Moore Park DJRL come from?

The SFS to me will never be our home, its like a fequent interstate traveller that always uses the same hotel…it becomes familiar but its never ''home''

 

[tiger05]

Let's see how this works.
We'll never have to play St George, Manly, Parra, Penrith or the Sharks at their home ground in a semi final or final.
And if we are lucky enough to be entitled to a home semi, we play it at one of our home grounds, the SFS.
Sounds bloody awesome to me.

Which part of the JV do the Moore Park DJRL come from?

The SFS to me will never be our home, its like a fequent interstate traveller that always uses the same hotel…it becomes familiar but its never ''home''

We should be at ANZ and forget about our traditional grounds.

 

[Gary_Bakerloo]

We should be at ANZ and forget about our traditional grounds.

Correct, but Campbelltown should be aiming to match the stadium in Newcastle.

 

[steve-o]

Let's see how this works.
We'll never have to play St George, Manly, Parra, Penrith or the Sharks at their home ground in a semi final or final.
And if we are lucky enough to be entitled to a home semi, we play it at one of our home grounds, the SFS.
Sounds bloody awesome to me.

Which part of the JV do the Moore Park DJRL come from?

The SFS to me will never be our home, its like a fequent interstate traveller that always uses the same hotel…it becomes familiar but its never ''home''

We should be at ANZ and forget about our traditional grounds.

sfs has such a better atmosphere than anz. heres hoping we never go back to anz

 

[innsaneink]

You make your own atmosphere….at least ANZ is our district, our area, I could handle that

I agree the days of suburban footy for NRL are over, I love State cup when I get a chance to watch it....pure footy & footy ppl minus commercial crap....but NRL has to go undercover, proper seating, proper parking, no mud no ankle deep in flooded ancient toilets ....memberships will demand it and see the end of these grounds

 

[prattenpark]

Let's see how this works.
We'll never have to play St George, Manly, Parra, Penrith or the Sharks at their home ground in a semi final or final.
And if we are lucky enough to be entitled to a home semi, we play it at one of our home grounds, the SFS.
Sounds bloody awesome to me.

Which part of the JV do the Moore Park DJRL come from?

The SFS to me will never be our home, its like a fequent interstate traveller that always uses the same hotel…it becomes familiar but its never ''home''

Whether you like it or not is irrelevant. It IS, currently, one of our home grounds.