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NRL 2021 teams: Josh Aloiai to Manly, Joe Ofahengaue to Wests Tigers
Michael Carayannis
November 28, 2020 - 6:09PM
News Corp Australia Sports Newsroom

NRL: The Knights have re-signed young winger Starford To'a till 2023.
The fallout has been swift and public but the Josh Aloiai saga is over - see how the Tigers and Sea Eagles packs stack up in 2021.

The Josh Aloiai saga is over with the representative prop to officially join the Sea Eagles this week.

Aloiai could be at Manly training as early as Monday with paperwork delaying the official announcement. It caps the end to a turbulent month for the 25-year-old who went from a potential Tigers captain to wanting out of the club he played 90 top grade games for. Aloiai will sign a three year deal with the Sea Eagles as their replacement for Addin Founa-Blake, who quit the club to join the Warriors.

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Josh Aloiai wanted out of the Wests Tigers. Picture: AAP Image/Brendon Thorne
Josh Aloiai wanted out of the Wests Tigers. Picture: AAP Image/Brendon Thorne
An announcement could come as early as Sunday once the Tigers have the official release from Brisbane to secure Joe Ofahengaue. It is understood Ofahengaue’s deal with the Tigers is for two seasons and an option for the third. The Broncos will contribute about $200,000 for Ofahengaue – who had two years remaining on his contract – to play for the Tigers. Ofahengaue has already shown his hand by listing his social media profile as an “ex-Broncos player” and following the Wests Tigers on Instagram having unfollowed the Broncos earlier this month.

Aloiai has also recently started following Manly on Instagram.

The arrival of Ofahengaue avoids a potential embarrassing showdown between Aloiai and the Tigers. Aloiai was due to return to pre-season training with the rest of the Tigers squad on Monday and had been warned he faced being fined if he skipped the planned session. He was told he would have to mow the grass at Leichhardt Oval or paint the dressing sheds if he did not want to fulfil his contract but the standoff won’t eventuate with the Samoan international now a Sea Eagle.

The Broncos will pay a portion of Joe Ofahengaue’s salary to play at another club. Picture Annette Dew
The Broncos will pay a portion of Joe Ofahengaue’s salary to play at another club. Picture Annette Dew
The saga sets up a blockbuster round seven showdown between the two club’s on Anzac Day at Bankwest Stadium.

A planned player swap between Luke Garner and Curtis Sironen is now unlikely to eventuate although the Sea Eagles remain keen on Garner’s services for 2022 and beyond. Sironen is off-contract at the end of the season.

The Tigers will need to now turn their attention to securing crowd favourite David Nofoaluma who told The Daily Telegraph he was about to “explore all my options and weigh up what’s the best decision for myself and more importantly my future” after receiving a three-year contract extension from the club last week.

The Sea Eagles have remained active in the player market adding outside backs Jason Saab and Christian Tuipulotu to go with former Eels back-rower Andrew Davey and veteran half Kieran Foran.

HOW THE PACKS STACK UP

TIGERS

8 James Tamou

9 Jacob Liddle

10 Joe Ofahengaue

11 Luke Garner

12 Luciano Leilua

13 Alex Twal

Others: Stefano Utoikamanu, Zane Musgrove, Thomas Mikaele, Shawn Blore, Russell Packer, Jake Simpkin.

SEA EAGLES

8 Josh Aloiai

9 Cade Cust/Lachlan Croker

10 Martin Taupau

11 Jack Gosiewski

12 Curtis Sironen

13 Jake Trbojevic

Others: Andrew Davey, Taniela Paseka, Morgan Boyle, Sean Keppie, Toafofoa Sipley, Haumole Olakau‘atu, Manase Fainu (unavailable until at

 

[earl]

The bottom line here is , this is two years in a row we have lost two forwards we wanted to keep , if u don’t stop this it will keep happening, some times u have to take a st

We are taking a stand

You are correct. We are stating if you have a career best season and you throw a tantrum to get more money via getting out of your current contract we will support you.

 

[Russell]

There’s no doubt, WE’RE A SOFT TARGET. !
The MEDIA says we have to release Aloia so that’s what we’ll do.
We’ll probably send him over to Brookvale in a stretch limo and foot the bill, just to appease the pigs at News Corp.
I respect the Storm more for their hard edge demands for a quality replacement in the JAC negotiation. The very player they requested (and we protected) is now pee-ing us up against the walls of The Daily Telegraph building.

We are going to be compensated - have you forgotten that already. Just not with a player.

There’s no doubt, WE’RE A SOFT TARGET. !
The MEDIA says we have to release Aloia so that’s what we’ll do.
We’ll probably send him over to Brookvale in a stretch limo and foot the bill, just to appease the pigs at News Corp.
I respect the Storm more for their hard edge demands for a quality replacement in the JAC negotiation. The very player they requested (and we protected) is now pee-ing us up against the walls of The Daily Telegraph building.

We are going to be compensated - have you forgotten that already. Just not with a player.

You’re not privy to that information, don’t assume.

Why not?

You are assuming we are not being compensated

And the difference is?

 

[TigerWest]

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NRL 2021 teams: Josh Aloiai to Manly, Joe Ofahengaue to Wests Tigers
Michael Carayannis
November 28, 2020 - 6:09PM
News Corp Australia Sports Newsroom

NRL: The Knights have re-signed young winger Starford To'a till 2023.
The fallout has been swift and public but the Josh Aloiai saga is over - see how the Tigers and Sea Eagles packs stack up in 2021.

The Josh Aloiai saga is over with the representative prop to officially join the Sea Eagles this week.

Aloiai could be at Manly training as early as Monday with paperwork delaying the official announcement. It caps the end to a turbulent month for the 25-year-old who went from a potential Tigers captain to wanting out of the club he played 90 top grade games for. Aloiai will sign a three year deal with the Sea Eagles as their replacement for Addin Founa-Blake, who quit the club to join the Warriors.

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Josh Aloiai wanted out of the Wests Tigers. Picture: AAP Image/Brendon Thorne
Josh Aloiai wanted out of the Wests Tigers. Picture: AAP Image/Brendon Thorne
An announcement could come as early as Sunday once the Tigers have the official release from Brisbane to secure Joe Ofahengaue. It is understood Ofahengaue’s deal with the Tigers is for two seasons and an option for the third. The Broncos will contribute about $200,000 for Ofahengaue – who had two years remaining on his contract – to play for the Tigers. Ofahengaue has already shown his hand by listing his social media profile as an “ex-Broncos player” and following the Wests Tigers on Instagram having unfollowed the Broncos earlier this month.

Aloiai has also recently started following Manly on Instagram.

The arrival of Ofahengaue avoids a potential embarrassing showdown between Aloiai and the Tigers. Aloiai was due to return to pre-season training with the rest of the Tigers squad on Monday and had been warned he faced being fined if he skipped the planned session. He was told he would have to mow the grass at Leichhardt Oval or paint the dressing sheds if he did not want to fulfil his contract but the standoff won’t eventuate with the Samoan international now a Sea Eagle.

The Broncos will pay a portion of Joe Ofahengaue’s salary to play at another club. Picture Annette Dew
The Broncos will pay a portion of Joe Ofahengaue’s salary to play at another club. Picture Annette Dew
The saga sets up a blockbuster round seven showdown between the two club’s on Anzac Day at Bankwest Stadium.

A planned player swap between Luke Garner and Curtis Sironen is now unlikely to eventuate although the Sea Eagles remain keen on Garner’s services for 2022 and beyond. Sironen is off-contract at the end of the season.

The Tigers will need to now turn their attention to securing crowd favourite David Nofoaluma who told The Daily Telegraph he was about to “explore all my options and weigh up what’s the best decision for myself and more importantly my future” after receiving a three-year contract extension from the club last week.

The Sea Eagles have remained active in the player market adding outside backs Jason Saab and Christian Tuipulotu to go with former Eels back-rower Andrew Davey and veteran half Kieran Foran.

HOW THE PACKS STACK UP

TIGERS

8 James Tamou

9 Jacob Liddle

10 Joe Ofahengaue

11 Luke Garner

12 Luciano Leilua

13 Alex Twal

Others: Stefano Utoikamanu, Zane Musgrove, Thomas Mikaele, Shawn Blore, Russell Packer, Jake Simpkin.

SEA EAGLES

8 Josh Aloiai

9 Cade Cust/Lachlan Croker

10 Martin Taupau

11 Jack Gosiewski

12 Curtis Sironen

13 Jake Trbojevic

Others: Andrew Davey, Taniela Paseka, Morgan Boyle, Sean Keppie, Toafofoa Sipley, Haumole Olakau‘atu, Manase Fainu (unavailable until at

I don’t know a lot of the manly players, but we give it to them last season, so I would think we are a better pack now.

Anyone know how long Sirro has at manly and Garner has with us?

See a future swap if things don’t improve with our man next season.

 

[BalmainJnr]

We have the leverage here. Manly are desperate for forwards. If they want him, it’s got to cost them something. Otherwise he stays in Ron Massey Cup.

 

[BAGNF05]

We have the leverage here. Manly are desperate for forwards. If they want him, it’s got to cost them something. Otherwise he stays in Ron Massey Cup.

Won’t happen we are snowflakes

 

[hsvjones]

Ask yourself 1 question.....
Is JA a better player than JO ?
To me NO and he wants / will be leaving anyway. I applaud the club for looking outside the box and getting JO as clearly there was not a player swap we wanted from Manly out of the players that would of actually wanted to come here.. No point swapping for a player we don't want or need..
(also Broncos are paying some of the freight and the 3rd year is a Club option)
This way we get a better replacement plus cash from them and its a win win..
We really don't want to hang onto JA just to prove a point and have him hear bringing down molale aka. M Moses... For me this is a very very smart move and the club will word this release of JA in our favour.. Yes and i understand we don't want to look like a club giving in but if there is no player to swap with you deal with it..

 

[Sully]

No more releasing talk Please Mr Wests Tigers

Did the Eels release Stefano ??

or the Panthers releasing Laurie??

If Josh A wants to go, he is free to do so after season 2021

Yeah I’m a bit peeved we’re just gonna roll over yet again and let Aloiai walk if we sign Joe O. His acquisition has nothing to do with Aloiai. He should not be released unless Manly cough up someone else or some form of compensation, though honestly I’d rather Aloiai be made to stay and see out his contract. We need to start getting tougher with the tantrum throwing wantaways. Other teams manage to do it and so should we. It’s about respect.


Maybe the delay in everything is all to do with the "compensation."

I’d like to think that would be the case, but it looks like our CEO has virtually stated that Ofahengaue’s signing will allow the club to release Aloiai to Manly - a very soft stance now from the man who less than a week ago touted that he’d have Aloiai mowing the lawns at Concord rather than release him a year early.

It was the Chairman who talked about mowing lawns, not the CEO.

Pretty sure POM said something like "we won't get a player swap but we are going to get compensated in another way by Manly" - I'm taking this as monetary compensation - how much, who knows?


Pom also said JAC and Macintyre were done deals.

Not trying to disrespect the bloke, but things do swivel around at any point ?‍♂️

They were done as far as deals. One had a HOA awaiting a release which did not happen and McIntyre had a deal but then the incompetent management team failed to get the thing signed off

Incompetent management team? As pauline would say, Please explain? With facts.

It was mentioned they left a contract that had been agreed to terms unsigned by Sam for 2 weeks as they focussed on JAC as he was more a priority. That is incompetent. As it played out we lost both however I don’t blame them for JAC.

It might have been 'mentioned', but I believe the facts are different. There are many possibilities.

I believe McIntyre was expendable and so they left wiggle room for $$ for JAC at the expense of McIntyre. In the interim, JAC has not come and McIntrye has signed somewhere else. I wish him well. My opinion and that of others is that he isnt that good. Some have the opinion he IS that good. Thats just the way it is. If they truly wanted McIntyre, he would be signed.

Its not incompetent management at all.

I think the issue is that the contract was 'supposedly left in the cupboard for 2 weeks and they forgot'. I dont believe that for one second.

So your belief is fact...

Let’s agree to disagree

 

[pawsandclaws1]

I applaud the club for removing Aloiai from the roster. He has done some damage to the reputation he likes to promote.

 

[TigerWest]

We have the leverage here. Manly are desperate for forwards. If they want him, it’s got to cost them something. Otherwise he stays in Ron Massey Cup.

Yeah, but we are in a hole ourselves, we lose a first grade forward with him in reserve’s and will be lacking depth for the team.

 

[BalmainJnr]

We have the leverage here. Manly are desperate for forwards. If they want him, it’s got to cost them something. Otherwise he stays in Ron Massey Cup.

Won’t happen we are snowflakes

If it doesn’t then we (the fans) have every right to be furious. I take Cochise’s point, that long term we need to pressure the NRL to tighten the rules to prevent further occurrences. But, in the short term we have to get something out of Manly.
I’m also at a loss as to why the media aren’t talking about the fact he’s been induced to try to break his contract, just like it wasn’t mentioned with the previous players that have pulled this rubbish. There are currently rules around inducement to break contract, yet it barely rates a mention.

 

[earl]

We have the leverage here. Manly are desperate for forwards. If they want him, it’s got to cost them something. Otherwise he stays in Ron Massey Cup.

Why ? Just play him. JAC is playing for Melbourne next season even though he is leaving. Why does it matter ?

 

[tony soprano]

We have the leverage here. Manly are desperate for forwards. If they want him, it’s got to cost them something. Otherwise he stays in Ron Massey Cup.

Yeah, but we are in a hole ourselves, we lose a first grade forward with him in reserve’s and will be lacking depth for the team.

Another full of it wests tigers player/member, makes you question why you bother.

 

[cochise]

We have the leverage here. Manly are desperate for forwards. If they want him, it’s got to cost them something. Otherwise he stays in Ron Massey Cup.

Won’t happen we are snowflakes

If it doesn’t then we (the fans) have every right to be furious. I take Cochise’s point, that long term we need to pressure the NRL to tighten the rules to prevent further occurrences. But, in the short term we have to get something out of Manly.
I’m also at a loss as to why the media aren’t talking about the fact he’s been induced to try to break his contract, just like it wasn’t mentioned with the previous players that have pulled this rubbish. There are currently rules around inducement to break contract, yet it barely rates a mention.

The only issue I have with that is it damages us on field next year just to prove a point. I do understand why people want him to stay, I just don't think it is in our best interests.

 

[gallagher]

We have the leverage here. Manly are desperate for forwards. If they want him, it’s got to cost them something. Otherwise he stays in Ron Massey Cup.

Won’t happen we are snowflakes

If it doesn’t then we (the fans) have every right to be furious. I take Cochise’s point, that long term we need to pressure the NRL to tighten the rules to prevent further occurrences. But, in the short term we have to get something out of Manly.
I’m also at a loss as to why the media aren’t talking about the fact he’s been induced to try to break his contract, just like it wasn’t mentioned with the previous players that have pulled this rubbish. There are currently rules around inducement to break contract, yet it barely rates a mention.

The only issue I have with that is it damages us on field next year just to prove a point. I do understand why people want him to stay, I just don't think it is in our best interests.

It's just the ease that we let him leave. All talk no walk as usual.

 

[Rusty]

Ask yourself 1 question.....
Is JA a better player than JO ?
To me NO and he wants / will be leaving anyway. I applaud the club for looking outside the box and getting JO as clearly there was not a player swap we wanted from Manly out of the players that would of actually wanted to come here.. No point swapping for a player we don't want or need..
(also Broncos are paying some of the freight and the 3rd year is a Club option)
This way we get a better replacement plus cash from them and its a win win..
We really don't want to hang onto JA just to prove a point and have him hear bringing down molale aka. M Moses... For me this is a very very smart move and the club will word this release of JA in our favour.. Yes and i understand we don't want to look like a club giving in but if there is no player to swap with you deal with it..

Agree I believe that if we didn't have 1.5 mil of deadwood floating in reserve grade, the outcome would be an entirely different story

 

[TieDye]

We have the leverage here. Manly are desperate for forwards. If they want him, it’s got to cost them something. Otherwise he stays in Ron Massey Cup.

Won’t happen we are snowflakes

If it doesn’t then we (the fans) have every right to be furious. I take Cochise’s point, that long term we need to pressure the NRL to tighten the rules to prevent further occurrences. But, in the short term we have to get something out of Manly.
I’m also at a loss as to why the media aren’t talking about the fact he’s been induced to try to break his contract, just like it wasn’t mentioned with the previous players that have pulled this rubbish. There are currently rules around inducement to break contract, yet it barely rates a mention.

The only issue I have with that is it damages us on field next year just to prove a point. I do understand why people want him to stay, I just don't think it is in our best interests.

It's just the ease that we let him leave. All talk no walk as usual.

Yeah, Lee should’ve known Manky better but he won’t make the same mistake again. Very, very disappointed that we didn’t try and write into the release a contractual obligation for Alicia to be forced to sit out any/every time he should be scheduled to play us in future, at least for 3 yrs. See how useful his tactics are then...

 

[Rugba]

The problem is no so much they letting him go for no compo player wise , it’s the fact that two years running the club have talked tough in the media about players wanting out then just let them go .
Storm talked tough and they didn’t deviate .
Other clubs let them go and don’t say threats in media about mowing lawns . This is why magement looks weak and pushovers

 

[Telltails]

We have the leverage here. Manly are desperate for forwards. If they want him, it’s got to cost them something. Otherwise he stays in Ron Massey Cup.

Won’t happen we are snowflakes

If it doesn’t then we (the fans) have every right to be furious. I take Cochise’s point, that long term we need to pressure the NRL to tighten the rules to prevent further occurrences. But, in the short term we have to get something out of Manly.
I’m also at a loss as to why the media aren’t talking about the fact he’s been induced to try to break his contract, just like it wasn’t mentioned with the previous players that have pulled this rubbish. There are currently rules around inducement to break contract, yet it barely rates a mention.

I keep going back to Jai Arrow last year South's were desperate to get him and the Titans wouldn't budge. I support the club on most things but I don't see any benefit to us in Manly getting him now. Beyond disappointed in this decision. If you are going to talk the talk

 

[TigerWest]

We have the leverage here. Manly are desperate for forwards. If they want him, it’s got to cost them something. Otherwise he stays in Ron Massey Cup.

Won’t happen we are snowflakes

If it doesn’t then we (the fans) have every right to be furious. I take Cochise’s point, that long term we need to pressure the NRL to tighten the rules to prevent further occurrences. But, in the short term we have to get something out of Manly.
I’m also at a loss as to why the media aren’t talking about the fact he’s been induced to try to break his contract, just like it wasn’t mentioned with the previous players that have pulled this rubbish. There are currently rules around inducement to break contract, yet it barely rates a mention.

I keep going back to Jai Arrow last year South's were desperate to get him and the Titans wouldn't budge. I support the club on most things but I don't see any benefit to us in Manly getting him now. Beyond disappointed in this decision. If you are going to talk the talk

But was Jai Arrow making a complete goose of himself in the news, saying he’d never wear the jumper and basically damaging the club?