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The MEDIA says we have to release Aloia so that’s what we’ll do.
We’ll probably send him over to Brookvale in a stretch limo and foot the bill, just to appease the pigs at News Corp.
I respect the Storm more for their hard edge demands for a quality replacement in the JAC negotiation. The very player they requested (and we protected) is now pee-ing us up against the walls of The Daily Telegraph building.
We are going to be compensated - have you forgotten that already. Just not with a player.
We aren't getting compensated at this point. Compensation would require Manly giving us something in return for releasing Aloiai. The proposed deal now is that we just get Aloiai off our books and therefore we sign someone else.
We did the same thing with Matterson and it allowed us to sign AD and LL.
My opinion is that we should have kept Matterson and we should keep Aloiai. These guys were our best forwards and close to best players in their last season with us. It just seems stupid to release quality players because they spit the dummy.
We should be compensated but I think the writing is on the wall in that we sign JO and release JA.
Quoting what the POM said - obviously you have another source.
I'm quoting the POM as well. His last post stated:-
Aloiai for $$$ (essentially Joe)
Garner for Sironen (pending terms)
I could be wrong but that to me is exactly as I stated which is no benefit to us at all. We just lose his contract from our books. I don't think Manly can give us extra dollars for our salary cap. They could pay a player who is playing for us this season but I can't see that happening.
If you have another source that says something different or my understanding is incorrect let us know.
Depends what "essentially Joe" means, if they are paying compensation that covers his wage next year then it is not getting nothing.
How could compensation paid through cash pay for Joe O when his salary comes out of the salary cap?
Because cash is cash and if it improve our bottom line its still compensation worth having. His pay comes out of Wests Tigers funds, its not like the Salary Cap is someone else's money, the cap just limits how much of our money we are allowed to spend on players.
Whatever 'cash' we get, it's got nothing to do with our signing of Joe O. We need salary cap space and a position in the squad to sign him, we already have the position in the squad, and considering we were chasing JAC and surely had a glimmer of hope for Grant, we had the salary cap space for Joe O.
From what I've read, we could retain Josh Aloiai and sign Joe O, it doesn't seem like one or the other.
Wo cares if its one of the other, get some cash and let Aloiai go.
It just irks me that these players throw their little tantrums like three year olds and get away with it.
I know it's not just us, Storm were in danger of losing JAC, Saab wanted out of Dragons, Manly lost their prop, Sharks lost Morris to Roosters, Souths lost that young kid to Roosters, but also Roosters even lost Mitchell.
You've expressed a few times that it is the NRL that need to do something, and I think that you are right. I was hoping in our case WT could be tough, sit the bludger in Reserves for a while, until the media kicks up so much of a stink that then the NRL is pressured in doing something then.
Problem is we already have Reynolds and Packer as reserve graders, just too much money sitting in reserves. Let him go and give the money to someone who wants to be here and then set about fixing the rules.
$350k in Reserves is nothing. We had that in a fine the last 2 years. With over $1.5m in there already with Packer and Reynolds, $350k is chicken feed.
I see that article above by Carayannis, poor if true. Tigers played for chumps. And our chairperson, saying Aloiai would not be released, is made to look like a fool.
If we received any sort of financial advantage by letting him go, it needs to be made public, because otherwise now we look stupid.
Who knows how to set up a poll?
We could guess who's going to crap on us next year and make a fool of us
I'm sure Lee will play his part in embarrassing us
JA should've been made to suffer simple as that
JO isn't compensation we could fit him in anyway
JA shouldve been sent to RMC to waste away
So we should suffer to prove a point?
Yes I think so. But not to be it seems.