Aloiai

@dugwt said in [Aloiai](/post/1266891) said:
@voice_of_reason said in [Aloiai](/post/1266712) said:
@dugwt said in [Aloiai](/post/1266632) said:
He liked that and commented on that on instagram. And so did blore.

I'm a little concerned with some of the stuff Blore does/likes on Instagram. I think it'd be to his benefit if someone sat down with him and tried to rein in his social media habits.
It's easy to make yourself look like a nitwit.

I think NRL players need to be controlled on social media.

I think they definitely should have some training/education/guidelines in place for social media usage. But maybe they already do, I don't know.
 
@THE_POM said in [Aloiai](/post/1266889) said:
This took a very ugly & unexpected turn very quickly. Haven’t spoken to a single person yet who isn’t completely shocked at Aloiai & his managements actions.
The 1 day deadline also taken extremely out of proportion, once revised deal was presented it was mentioned they would like to know by the next day.
Was never said “you have 1 day or its gone”.
Manly really agitating the release behind closed doors.

Teammates happy?
 
@GNR4LIFE said in [Aloiai](/post/1266898) said:
@THE_POM said in [Aloiai](/post/1266889) said:
This took a very ugly & unexpected turn very quickly. Haven’t spoken to a single person yet who isn’t completely shocked at Aloiai & his managements actions.
The 1 day deadline also taken extremely out of proportion, once revised deal was presented it was mentioned they would like to know by the next day.
Was never said “you have 1 day or its gone”.
Manly really agitating the release behind closed doors.

Teammates happy?

Not ones spoken too, most of them shocked.
Will be untenable with playing squad if he remains.
 
@THE_POM said in [Aloiai](/post/1266902) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Aloiai](/post/1266898) said:
@THE_POM said in [Aloiai](/post/1266889) said:
This took a very ugly & unexpected turn very quickly. Haven’t spoken to a single person yet who isn’t completely shocked at Aloiai & his managements actions.
The 1 day deadline also taken extremely out of proportion, once revised deal was presented it was mentioned they would like to know by the next day.
Was never said “you have 1 day or its gone”.
Manly really agitating the release behind closed doors.

Teammates happy?

Not ones spoken too, most of them shocked.
Will be untenable with playing squad if he remains.

I would hope he remains but not with the playing squad.
Important we make a stand here. Do you agree?
 
@JD-Tiger said in [Aloiai](/post/1266914) said:
@THE_POM said in [Aloiai](/post/1266902) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Aloiai](/post/1266898) said:
@THE_POM said in [Aloiai](/post/1266889) said:
This took a very ugly & unexpected turn very quickly. Haven’t spoken to a single person yet who isn’t completely shocked at Aloiai & his managements actions.
The 1 day deadline also taken extremely out of proportion, once revised deal was presented it was mentioned they would like to know by the next day.
Was never said “you have 1 day or its gone”.
Manly really agitating the release behind closed doors.

Teammates happy?

Not ones spoken too, most of them shocked.
Will be untenable with playing squad if he remains.

I would hope he remains but not with the playing squad.
Important we make a stand here. Do you agree?

Most definitely agree, needs to be made an example of.
 
I remember 25 years ago, one of my first memories of off-field drama, was Jim Serdaris signing with Wests from the Bulldogs, then not wanting to go. Wests refused to cave, and he honoured the contract. Didn’t spit the dummy.
 
@GNR4LIFE said in [Aloiai](/post/1266877) said:
One thing is for sure, if he’s here next year, he won’t be mowing lawns, but he’ll spend a lot of time playing for the Magpies. With the depth at prop, he’s expendable. Play him in reserve grade and run his value into the ground.

Completely disagree with this. If he is in our top 3 props then he should be playing. Making a player meet the obligations of their contract is professionalism. To hurt you’re own chances of winning out of spite is disrespectful to the sponsors, members and fans as well as portraying an image of amateur hour. The exact thing we are trying to avoid.
 
@Furious1 said in [Aloiai](/post/1266952) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Aloiai](/post/1266877) said:
One thing is for sure, if he’s here next year, he won’t be mowing lawns, but he’ll spend a lot of time playing for the Magpies. With the depth at prop, he’s expendable. Play him in reserve grade and run his value into the ground.

Completely disagree with this. If he is in our top 3 props then he should be playing. Making a player meet the obligations of their contract is professionalism. To hurt you’re own chances of winning out of spite is disrespectful to the sponsors, members and fans as well as portraying an image of amateur hour. The exact thing we are trying to avoid.

It’s not as much about spite as it’s about picking players that want to be here. “I’ll never wear the jersey again” should mean he’s low in the pecking order
 
@THE_POM said in [Aloiai](/post/1266917) said:
@JD-Tiger said in [Aloiai](/post/1266914) said:
@THE_POM said in [Aloiai](/post/1266902) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Aloiai](/post/1266898) said:
@THE_POM said in [Aloiai](/post/1266889) said:
This took a very ugly & unexpected turn very quickly. Haven’t spoken to a single person yet who isn’t completely shocked at Aloiai & his managements actions.
The 1 day deadline also taken extremely out of proportion, once revised deal was presented it was mentioned they would like to know by the next day.
Was never said “you have 1 day or its gone”.
Manly really agitating the release behind closed doors.

Teammates happy?

Not ones spoken too, most of them shocked.
Will be untenable with playing squad if he remains.

I would hope he remains but not with the playing squad.
Important we make a stand here. Do you agree?

Most definitely agree, needs to be made an example of.

Any Manly players we’ve discussed in a trade yet?
 
@JD-Tiger said in [Aloiai](/post/1266894) said:
@dugwt said in [Aloiai](/post/1266891) said:
@voice_of_reason said in [Aloiai](/post/1266712) said:
@dugwt said in [Aloiai](/post/1266632) said:
He liked that and commented on that on instagram. And so did blore.

I'm a little concerned with some of the stuff Blore does/likes on Instagram. I think it'd be to his benefit if someone sat down with him and tried to rein in his social media habits.
It's easy to make yourself look like a nitwit.

I think NRL players need to be controlled on social media.

I think they definitely should have some training/education/guidelines in place for social media usage. But maybe they already do, I don't know.

Its not working on Aloiai.
 
@THE_POM said in [Aloiai](/post/1266889) said:
This took a very ugly & unexpected turn very quickly. Haven’t spoken to a single person yet who isn’t completely shocked at Aloiai & his managements actions.
The 1 day deadline also taken extremely out of proportion, once revised deal was presented it was mentioned they would like to know by the next day.
Was never said “you have 1 day or its gone”.
Manly really agitating the release behind closed doors.

Sounds a bit more real. Things always get taken way over the top on message boards. I'm stunned by JA as well. I never would have expected this sort of scenario to play out. He was always to me at least, the level headed one that was a hard worker on the improve, had pride in the jersey etc. I guess the lure of a lotto win was too much for him to handle. It still blows my mind that $350,000 is considered a low payment. These are crazy times.
 
@GNR4LIFE said in [Aloiai](/post/1266957) said:
@Furious1 said in [Aloiai](/post/1266952) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Aloiai](/post/1266877) said:
One thing is for sure, if he’s here next year, he won’t be mowing lawns, but he’ll spend a lot of time playing for the Magpies. With the depth at prop, he’s expendable. Play him in reserve grade and run his value into the ground.

Completely disagree with this. If he is in our top 3 props then he should be playing. Making a player meet the obligations of their contract is professionalism. To hurt you’re own chances of winning out of spite is disrespectful to the sponsors, members and fans as well as portraying an image of amateur hour. The exact thing we are trying to avoid.

It’s not as much about spite as it’s about picking players that want to be here. “I’ll never wear the jersey again” should mean he’s low in the pecking order

Again, I don't think he actually said that. I'm sure I read back 40 - 50 loooong pages that Lee H said that JA had said that he had no desire to wear it. That's not a great thing to say, but it's not a refusal to wear it. We seem to have gravitated towards an incorrect quote. I may be wrong of course.
 
@Furious1 said in [Aloiai](/post/1266952) said:
Completely disagree with this. If he is in our top 3 props then he should be playing. Making a player meet the obligations of their contract is professionalism.

Normally I'd tend to lean this way as well but if what The_POM says about his team-mate's feelings I don't think it's going to work.

It appears he's created a stench around himself the other players won't tolerate. It's quite possible it's also wafting as far as Brookvale as the Eagles' fans seem less than impressed - especially given the reported money on offer.

Maybe Josh should get his head into his favourite book and check 1 Timothy 6:10:

For the love of money is the root of all of evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.

He's certainly brought himself some sorrow.
 
@voice_of_reason said in [Aloiai](/post/1266978) said:
@Furious1 said in [Aloiai](/post/1266952) said:
Completely disagree with this. If he is in our top 3 props then he should be playing. Making a player meet the obligations of their contract is professionalism.

Normally I'd tend to lean this way as well but if what The_POM says about his team-mate's feelings I don't think it's going to work.

It appears he's created a stench around himself the other players won't tolerate. It's quite possible it's also wafting as far as Brookvale as the Eagles' fans seem less than impressed - especially given the reported money on offer.

Maybe Josh should get his head into his favourite book and check 1 Timothy 6:10:

For the love of money is the root of all of evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.

He's certainly brought himself some sorrow.

When Matto carried on last year, the majority of the players didn't want him around.

I'd say it's the same sentiment ATM. Therefore, if he is kept, he'll need to be isolated for the sake of team harmony.
 
@THE_POM said in [Aloiai](/post/1266889) said:
This took a very ugly & unexpected turn very quickly. Haven’t spoken to a single person yet who isn’t completely shocked at Aloiai & his managements actions.
The 1 day deadline also taken extremely out of proportion, once revised deal was presented it was mentioned they would like to know by the next day.
Was never said “you have 1 day or its gone”.
Manly really agitating the release behind closed doors.

Josh needs to be educated in how to conduct himself properly.
 
@Tiger-Tragic said in [Aloiai](/post/1266936) said:
@dazza65 said in [Aloiai](/post/1266718) said:
@voice_of_reason said in [Aloiai](/post/1266712) said:
@dugwt said in [Aloiai](/post/1266632) said:
He liked that and commented on that on instagram. And so did blore.

I'm a little concerned with some of the stuff Blore does/likes on Instagram. I think it'd be to his benefit if someone sat down with him and tried to rein in his social media habits.
It's easy to make yourself look like a nitwit.


unfortunately that's par for the course these days with the 20 somethings.....

Most "20 somethings" are not professional athletes earning many times more than their counterparts. With it comes awareness and responsibility for how their social media profile can either enhance or denigrate their standing within their Club (employers) and the wider NRL community. No excuses.

You’d think so wouldn’t you....but I see no evidence of that....
 
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