Andrew Fifita

[Tigersmurf]

Keith is an old school second rower - like the Sirro mould.

He is not a prop! He can't be…....he has a neck!!!

 

[Guest]

How? I seriously can't remember the last time our pack dominated. We NEED big, aggressive, 'don't argue' props who get the job done and perform consistently week after week. It seems Galloway's knee injury is too overwhelming, he shouldn't be playing NRL. It's painful watching him when we've got better cattle to chose from. Fifita and Moors both haven't had any major injuries and possess the confidence that Galloway doesn't have. And they understand that their job is simple, get the ball, charge at the defensive and keep doing that all game. I can't get my head around why these two are deemed 'not good enough' to step up and play first grade? Yet we keep using plonkers like Galloway who trundles around every week trying his best not to get his hands on the ball. Admit it, our strength isn't in our pack. Until we start playing guys like Dwyer, Fifita, Moors, we will continue to be dominated and the fans will continue to see their team have to pluck a win out of their arse.

Allow me to outline things a bit better for all to see…

Round 1 - Tigers beat Manly. Gibbs, Heighno and Ellis all make over 100 metres which cancelled out Whatmough, Kite and Rose making over 100 metres.

Round 2 - The Tigers got touched up by the Roosters however Galloway was the only forward from both sides to make more than 100 metres in attack that day.

Round 3 - The Tigers took care of the Eels without too many dramas. The Tigers forwards won that battle with Galloway, Ellis and Heighno all making over 100 metres in attack. Moimoi and Mannah were the only 2 forwards from the Eels who had a dig that night.

Round 4 - The Tigers come from behind to roll the Raiders. The Raiders forwards won this battle with Shillington, Tilse and Harrison all making over 100 metres. Only Gibbs and Farah made over 100 metres for the Tigers with Ellis making 97.

Round 5 - The Tigers beat the Cowboys and lose Moltzen for the season. The Cowboys won the forward battle with the Tigers having a dreadful completion rate in the second half. Bolton, O'Donnell, Scott and Mason all made over 100 metres. Only Heighno and Gibbs did likewise for the Tigers.

Round 6 - Tigers get rolled by the Bulldogs and again can't hold the ball to save themselves. Gibbs made over 100 metres compared to Gordon, Hannant and Ryan making over 100 metres for the Dogs.

Round 7 - After putting up a good fight in the first half, the Tigers again fell apart in the second half to go down to Penrith. Heighno had a blinder and was the only Tigers forward to make over 100 metres. Petero, Grant, Pritchard and Bell all made over 100 metres and clearly won this battle.

Round 8 - Tigers lose to the Roosters in the final 5 minutes despite dominating for most of the game. Forwards won the battle but the backs failed to excite. Gibbs, Galloway, Ellis, Heighno and Fifita all made over 100 metres with the ball compared to Ryles and Myles being the only 2 Roosters to do likewise.

Round 10 - The Tigers got pumped by Souths. Say no more here.

Round 11 - On the back of a short turnaround the Tigers took down Newcastle in the wet. Not one Knight forward made over 100 metres in attack while Heighno, Ellis and Moors all made big metres for the Tigers.

Round 12 - Tigers destroyed the Warriors. Gibbs, Heighno, Ellis and Fifita all made over 100 metres in attack. Not one Warriors forward did.

Round 13 - Tigers got revenge on the Dogs. Hannant and Hodgson made over 100 metres with the ball but the Dogs lost this one with Gibbs, Ellis and Heighno all doing likewise for the Tigers.

Round 15 - Tigers got the Raiders again. Close battle this one with Farah, Payten, Ellis and Heighno all making over 100 metres with the ball while TLL, Shillington, Harrison and Thurling did likewise for Canberra.

Round 16 - Tigers went down to the Dragons however the forward battle was pretty even with Creagh, Prior and Saffy all making over 100 metres with the ball while Galloway, Heighno and Gibbs did the same for the Tigers.

Round 17 - The Tigers produce one of their worst ever performance to somehow beat the Broncos. Forward pack copped it in this one with not one forward making over 100 metres.

Round 18 - Tigers beat the Titans and clearly won the forward battle with Gibbs, Galloway, Payten and Heighno all making over 100 metres compared to Bailey, Minichello and Laffranchi doing the same.

Round 19 - Tigers beat the Cowboys. Cowboys forwards won the battle with O'Donnell and Scott making over 100 metres while Heighno was the only Tiger to do so.
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So take a closer look. The Tigers forwards aren't going anywhere near as bad as what you make out. Where they have struggled is when the Tigers have had completion rates at 70% or less, which any side will struggle with.'

Ellis, Gibbs and Heighno all average over 100 metres per game. Galloway is sitting on 94 metres with his injury interruptions. Compare this to a monster pack like the Raiders, and Shillington is the only forward in their team to average more than 100 metres per game. Compare this again to the Dragons, and Dan Hunt is the only forward to average more than 100 metres per game for them. Compare it again to Penrith and Petero, Grant and Pritchard average more than 100 metres per game.

Your argument is flawed and the stats and performances from the Tigers back it up.. Moors and Fifita are big and offer impact, but they are still best served coming off the bench while still adjusting to FG. The Tigers are not coming equal second because they are playing with an ordinary forward pack. When they control the ball they invariably make decent metres as I have highlighted.

 

[innsaneink]

Very well researched willie

 

[red_dogg]

willow like always u are all over it….. as some look through hate filled glasses, majority have faith...
come on u tigers.......

 

[stryker]

willow like always u are all over it….. **as some look through hate filled glasses**, majority have faith...
come on u tigers.......

Get real mate thats a stupid comment.

 

[Cat_amp_Fiddle]

Im done. Talk about tough task masters. Galloway was one of the best 3 props in the game last year. He comes back slow from injury and the clowns already turn on him. These are the same people saying Moltz was the best halfback since Joey Johns :wink:

4 years, 1 good period of about 10 games. How many chances do you want to give the bloke? No aggression, no 'go foward' mentality, he's typifies the type of fowards we use at WT's. And we wonder why we always lose the foward battle.

The Tigers don't always lose the forward battle. You're just being niave.

IMO the Wests Tigers have been winning the forwards battle pretty much all season.
We turn the ball back into the central corridor for first 80 per cent of the game and find out the less than fit forwards who flop in the back end of the game even though they get rested by so-called impact players who are in fact even less fit.
The WT forwards are all superfit (except Fifita, Moors and Tupou) which is why they aren't in first grade and why we've been winning even though the megapost fffffffffffans here don't understand.
Tim Sheens is the best rugby league coach ever – with the exception of Jack Gibson, IMHO

 

[Blake93]

you think galloway is fit? :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

 

[RatedRKO]

The WT forwards are all superfit (except Fifita, Moors and Tupou) which is why they aren't in first grade and why we've been winning even though the megapost fffffffffffans here don't understand.
Tim Sheens is the best rugby league coach ever – with the exception of Jack Gibson, IMHO

Can you logically explain the point in having Fitzy on the bench where he is likely to not even get on the field when we could have someone like Moors there instead? I want to hear this.

 

[Cat_amp_Fiddle]

Fitzy can cover injured backs and locks and hookers – it's as simple as that

 

[Cat_amp_Fiddle]

Yeah Galloway is gym fit but his injuries have held back his match fitness

 

[stryker]

Fitzy can cover injured backs and locks and hookers – it's as simple as that

Its not as simple as that, firstly he has to be of NRL standard - and he isnt in any of those positions

 

[southerntiger]

I cant get over people criticising Galloway. I must be an extremely bad judge of footballer. With Ellis and Heighno, in my view, he has been our best forward for the past 3 years. I really need to stop reading this site, it is doing my head in. Next I will be hearing the sky is purple.

 

[Tiger_Watto]

I think he is way below our best Forward. 2009 included. It is also pretty obvious that Sauce is battling injuries and is struggling to find is way. This really shows in his tackling technic.

Galloway is a class player and hopefully will turn things around before the Finals. A fully fit and hard running Keith Galloway is a great site in a Tiger Jumper.

I'm think 1-2 weeks in Reggies will be the best tonic considering he has struggled fir some time now…

 

[bonstonker]

I cant get over people criticising Galloway. I must be an extremely bad judge of footballer. With Ellis and Heighno, in my view, he has been our best forward for the past 3 years. I really need to stop reading this site, it is doing my head in. Next I will be hearing the sky is purple.

i have to agree
it's a pitty he got that head knock last week.
his second hit up i think it was where he made 12 yards then offloaded for another 15 yard gain.
thought he had a big game coming.

i don't see what he will get from reggies.
he knows what he needs to do and i am confident he will do it.

 

[simonthetiger]

x3

 

[stryker]

I cant get over people criticising Galloway. I must be an extremely bad judge of footballer. With Ellis and Heighno, in my view, he has been our best forward for the past 3 years. I really need to stop reading this site, it is doing my head in. Next I will be hearing the sky is purple.

No you aren't a bad judge…maybe guilty of wearing tiger coloured glasses with this one though. Ellis and Heighno are head, shoulders and chest above him as a player. He has a game where he makes one good tackle and two good runs and people on here give him points in their dally m and claim he shopuld be an Origin rep. He doesn put in enough for that honour.
He has the potential to be very important to us...but we need him on the field for extended periods and we need him firing during that period. A run in reggies would make him the forward leader, make him get more involved and bring him back to first grade match fit and confident.

 

[Tiger_Watto]

I cant get over people criticising Galloway. I must be an extremely bad judge of footballer. With Ellis and Heighno, in my view, he has been our best forward for the past 3 years. I really need to stop reading this site, it is doing my head in. Next I will be hearing the sky is purple.

No you aren't a bad judge…maybe guilty of wearing tiger coloured glasses with this one though. Ellis and Heighno are head, shoulders and chest above him as a player. He has a game where he makes one good tackle and two good runs and people on here give him points in their dally m and claim he shopuld be an Origin rep. He doesn put in enough for that honour.
He has the potential to be very important to us...but we need him on the field for extended periods and we need him firing during that period. A run in reggies would make him the forward leader, make him get more involved and bring him back to first grade match fit and confident.

Well explained Stryker… I love Keith, but he is well under...

 

[Lukic]

Keith's best used as an impact prop, yet we don't have someone that can fill the void as the starter. I like Fifita and Moors, don't get me wrong but they are also bench props, neither of the calibre of Keith. Gower should've been playing and starting a while ago.

 

[Student_of_the_game]

Just wondering when we have a fully fit squad, whether these two players should play ahead of skando.

personally i think that skando should probably make way for one if not two of these guys.

discuss…..

 

[citizen_cub]

I'm not doubting our fowards are fit, but they don't understand the 'go foward' formula. It's a simple game, every other team understand the formula. Gibbs, Galloway, Flanagan none of them run foward, and we've got blokes like Moors and Fifita who are raring to go and are being wasted in NSW cup. Sheens 'best rugby league coach ever'?!? mate he's not bad, but you, I and every other forum member know some of his selections are questionable.