ANZ Stadium Rebuild Cancelled

[cochise]

Even the NRL promoted Bankwest as the Eels new stadium. I haven't been there myself, it looks an amazing stadium on the tv, but how can it be our home if it belongs to the Eels?

I know some stadiums are shared, ANZ for example, and that works fine. But when for Bankwest they talked about naming the stands after famous Eels players and whatnot, and talking about the Eels new stadium, well that's not sharing. I hate what Parra have become in recent years, I certainly do not want to be doing them any favours. I believe we could share with them, but I don't want to be a guest in their stadium.

JD JD settle down have you been to BankWest ? There are no club markings on game day for any other club that is not playing . Parra put up reusable signs on differing standards then remove them a bit like the Burrow !
Actually the ground looks like a permanent Tigers stadium as the colours of BankWest which is everywhere are the same as the tigers (orange) go figure!

I'm calm buddy, sorry if I sounded like I wasn't. Thanks Snake, no I haven't been there, I don't live in Sydney, and family commitments have made it next to impossible for me to get up to Sydney for the footy these past few years.

I'm glad the Parra reusable signs aren't up for the games other teams play there. That wouldn't be fair at all, and I hope other teams do their own version of the reusable signs.

My only experience with Bankwest, is through the television, and how it was showcased last year as this awesome new stadium, in Parramatta, which the Eels, Wests Tigers and Bulldogs (I think it was) are playing some home games there. I got the impression that Parramatta definitely claimed it as their own. I guess it is, technically though jointly.

Perhaps when we have some success there, it will seem more like ours as well?

I honestly don't care what the eels claim, I drive over the harbour bridge everyday, but that doesn't make it anymore mine than the thousands of other people who do the same. I can't just claim it.

 

[happy_tiger]

Even the NRL promoted Bankwest as the Eels new stadium. I haven't been there myself, it looks an amazing stadium on the tv, but how can it be our home if it belongs to the Eels?

I know some stadiums are shared, ANZ for example, and that works fine. But when for Bankwest they talked about naming the stands after famous Eels players and whatnot, and talking about the Eels new stadium, well that's not sharing. I hate what Parra have become in recent years, I certainly do not want to be doing them any favours. I believe we could share with them, but I don't want to be a guest in their stadium.

JD JD settle down have you been to BankWest ? There are no club markings on game day for any other club that is not playing . Parra put up reusable signs on differing standards then remove them a bit like the Burrow !
Actually the ground looks like a permanent Tigers stadium as the colours of BankWest which is everywhere are the same as the tigers (orange) go figure!

I'm calm buddy, sorry if I sounded like I wasn't. Thanks Snake, no I haven't been there, I don't live in Sydney, and family commitments have made it next to impossible for me to get up to Sydney for the footy these past few years.

I'm glad the Parra reusable signs aren't up for the games other teams play there. That wouldn't be fair at all, and I hope other teams do their own version of the reusable signs.

My only experience with Bankwest, is through the television, and how it was showcased last year as this awesome new stadium, in Parramatta, which the Eels, Wests Tigers and Bulldogs (I think it was) are playing some home games there. I got the impression that Parramatta definitely claimed it as their own. I guess it is, technically though jointly.

Perhaps when we have some success there, it will seem more like ours as well?

I honestly don't care what the eels claim, I drive over the harbour bridge everyday, but that doesn't make it anymore mine than the thousands of other people who do the same. I can't just claim it.

Don't worry ...the signs in Gladstone have me living in Cowboys country and we are around 900 kms away from Townsville lol

 

[cochise]

Even the NRL promoted Bankwest as the Eels new stadium. I haven't been there myself, it looks an amazing stadium on the tv, but how can it be our home if it belongs to the Eels?

I know some stadiums are shared, ANZ for example, and that works fine. But when for Bankwest they talked about naming the stands after famous Eels players and whatnot, and talking about the Eels new stadium, well that's not sharing. I hate what Parra have become in recent years, I certainly do not want to be doing them any favours. I believe we could share with them, but I don't want to be a guest in their stadium.

We are not a guest in their stadium, it is a multi tenant stadium, the stands are not named after former Parra players. The stadium does not belong to the Eels. as I have pointed out it is owned by the NSW government, it is a public owned stadium built for multiple tenanats, including us.

That is the spin put on it. But if I have to travel to Parramatta CBD.via Parramatta Rd or get off at Parramatta Station, I'm in Mitch Moses and. Ryan Matterson territory.

That is because of the spin you put on it yourself, Parra was the ideal location for this stadium because it is becoming the second CBD of Greater Sydney region, is in the middle of an expanding transport hub and is in the geographic centre of the city. Same reason they are looking at moving the powerhouse museum there.

 

[cochise]

Even the NRL promoted Bankwest as the Eels new stadium. I haven't been there myself, it looks an amazing stadium on the tv, but how can it be our home if it belongs to the Eels?

I know some stadiums are shared, ANZ for example, and that works fine. But when for Bankwest they talked about naming the stands after famous Eels players and whatnot, and talking about the Eels new stadium, well that's not sharing. I hate what Parra have become in recent years, I certainly do not want to be doing them any favours. I believe we could share with them, but I don't want to be a guest in their stadium.

JD JD settle down have you been to BankWest ? There are no club markings on game day for any other club that is not playing . Parra put up reusable signs on differing standards then remove them a bit like the Burrow !
Actually the ground looks like a permanent Tigers stadium as the colours of BankWest which is everywhere are the same as the tigers (orange) go figure!

I'm calm buddy, sorry if I sounded like I wasn't. Thanks Snake, no I haven't been there, I don't live in Sydney, and family commitments have made it next to impossible for me to get up to Sydney for the footy these past few years.

I'm glad the Parra reusable signs aren't up for the games other teams play there. That wouldn't be fair at all, and I hope other teams do their own version of the reusable signs.

My only experience with Bankwest, is through the television, and how it was showcased last year as this awesome new stadium, in Parramatta, which the Eels, Wests Tigers and Bulldogs (I think it was) are playing some home games there. I got the impression that Parramatta definitely claimed it as their own. I guess it is, technically though jointly.

Perhaps when we have some success there, it will seem more like ours as well?

I honestly don't care what the eels claim, I drive over the harbour bridge everyday, but that doesn't make it anymore mine than the thousands of other people who do the same. I can't just claim it.

Don't worry ...the signs in Gladstone have me living in Cowboys country and we are around 900 kms away from Townsville lol

lol, I'm in the heart of Panthers territory. Please don't tell anyone but I regularly go to Panthers for dinner, I even go there for out of Sydney Wests Tigers games, I guess that makes me some kind of closet Panthers supporter.

 

[mike]

Whoever said LO/CSS for the out of town opposition home games and ANZ/BankWest for the Sydney opposition home games I think has it right with the grounds in their current state and configurations. I think this maximises the revenue for the club and minimises any losses.

100 of millions of $$ need to be spent Leichhardt and/or Campbelltown to rebuild them to modern accepted standards if that is to ever change. I just cannot see one home ground being practical in the next 5-10 years. With ANZ revamp not going ahead it’s probably going to stay the way it is, multiple home grounds for a very long time.

VLandys is pushing for 100s of millions for knock down and rebuilds for up to 4 stadiums.

Gladys will not wear that for a bit extra you do ANZ..

Well her govt entered an agreement with the NRL to spend that amount. I'd be backing VLandys on that fight.
A 20k stadium as Homebush would suit 3 clubs, I wonder it that's a possibility.

That is the best idea I've heard - not sure on space out their for another stadium but def a great idea. Only 2 issues I see is that Bankwest is only 15 minutes away from Olympic park so seems wierd to have 2 top stadiums so close but it always has seemed weird I guess and the other being is their somewhere to put it in the complex

However i really think thats a brilliant idea in what is meant to be a precinct.

Supporters should really wake up .. your tax dollars built a purpose built stadium only kms away from the Olympic precinct a great place to watch footy... instead of being so pedantic and critical we should be grateful such a great facility is available .
Honestly words fail sometimes at the garbage that is trotted out as to why god forbid our club should not use this facility! You all paid for It ....

You want to know why -

It's Parras home ground and always will be.

Has their Leagues club next door.

We prefer other choices.

We don't like it.

Stop trying to force it down our necks. You like it, good, doesn't mean we have to agree.

Just rubbish !

Whoever said LO/CSS for the out of town opposition home games and ANZ/BankWest for the Sydney opposition home games I think has it right with the grounds in their current state and configurations. I think this maximises the revenue for the club and minimises any losses.

100 of millions of $$ need to be spent Leichhardt and/or Campbelltown to rebuild them to modern accepted standards if that is to ever change. I just cannot see one home ground being practical in the next 5-10 years. With ANZ revamp not going ahead it’s probably going to stay the way it is, multiple home grounds for a very long time.

VLandys is pushing for 100s of millions for knock down and rebuilds for up to 4 stadiums.

Gladys will not wear that for a bit extra you do ANZ..

Well her govt entered an agreement with the NRL to spend that amount. I'd be backing VLandys on that fight.
A 20k stadium as Homebush would suit 3 clubs, I wonder it that's a possibility.

That is the best idea I've heard - not sure on space out their for another stadium but def a great idea. Only 2 issues I see is that Bankwest is only 15 minutes away from Olympic park so seems wierd to have 2 top stadiums so close but it always has seemed weird I guess and the other being is their somewhere to put it in the complex

However i really think thats a brilliant idea in what is meant to be a precinct.

Supporters should really wake up .. your tax dollars built a purpose built stadium only kms away from the Olympic precinct a great place to watch footy... instead of being so pedantic and critical we should be grateful such a great facility is available .
Honestly words fail sometimes at the garbage that is trotted out as to why god forbid our club should not use this facility! You all paid for It ....

You want to know why -

It's Parras home ground and always will be.

Has their Leagues club next door.

We prefer other choices.

We don't like it.

Stop trying to force it down our necks. You like it, good, doesn't mean we have to agree.

Just rubbish !

The response I expected - glad you did not disappoint.

Give a valid reason without emotive thinking .. there is none !

I gave you a few. Other people do not have to agree with you.

You do know that don't you.

Every five seconds you are on here - Bankwest!, Bankwest!, Bankwest!

We have not got dementia - we have taken your thoughts on board.

I have put forward in the last few days why not ANZ .. but that is not good enough also !
The only agenda I have is a place our club can call home and a place where our supporter base gets value for money in a modern and central hub that is assessable to all our supporters in the Sydney basin !
I do not have got an attachment to these outdated suburban grounds even though spending 20 yrs attending one !
This has gone on long enough our club needs a home ...

Whoever said LO/CSS for the out of town opposition home games and ANZ/BankWest for the Sydney opposition home games I think has it right with the grounds in their current state and configurations. I think this maximises the revenue for the club and minimises any losses.

100 of millions of $$ need to be spent Leichhardt and/or Campbelltown to rebuild them to modern accepted standards if that is to ever change. I just cannot see one home ground being practical in the next 5-10 years. With ANZ revamp not going ahead it’s probably going to stay the way it is, multiple home grounds for a very long time.

VLandys is pushing for 100s of millions for knock down and rebuilds for up to 4 stadiums.

Gladys will not wear that for a bit extra you do ANZ..

Well her govt entered an agreement with the NRL to spend that amount. I'd be backing VLandys on that fight.
A 20k stadium as Homebush would suit 3 clubs, I wonder it that's a possibility.

That is the best idea I've heard - not sure on space out their for another stadium but def a great idea. Only 2 issues I see is that Bankwest is only 15 minutes away from Olympic park so seems wierd to have 2 top stadiums so close but it always has seemed weird I guess and the other being is their somewhere to put it in the complex

However i really think thats a brilliant idea in what is meant to be a precinct.

Supporters should really wake up .. your tax dollars built a purpose built stadium only kms away from the Olympic precinct a great place to watch footy... instead of being so pedantic and critical we should be grateful such a great facility is available .
Honestly words fail sometimes at the garbage that is trotted out as to why god forbid our club should not use this facility! You all paid for It ....

You want to know why -

It's Parras home ground and always will be.

Has their Leagues club next door.

We prefer other choices.

We don't like it.

Stop trying to force it down our necks. You like it, good, doesn't mean we have to agree.

Just rubbish !

Whoever said LO/CSS for the out of town opposition home games and ANZ/BankWest for the Sydney opposition home games I think has it right with the grounds in their current state and configurations. I think this maximises the revenue for the club and minimises any losses.

100 of millions of $$ need to be spent Leichhardt and/or Campbelltown to rebuild them to modern accepted standards if that is to ever change. I just cannot see one home ground being practical in the next 5-10 years. With ANZ revamp not going ahead it’s probably going to stay the way it is, multiple home grounds for a very long time.

VLandys is pushing for 100s of millions for knock down and rebuilds for up to 4 stadiums.

Gladys will not wear that for a bit extra you do ANZ..

Well her govt entered an agreement with the NRL to spend that amount. I'd be backing VLandys on that fight.
A 20k stadium as Homebush would suit 3 clubs, I wonder it that's a possibility.

That is the best idea I've heard - not sure on space out their for another stadium but def a great idea. Only 2 issues I see is that Bankwest is only 15 minutes away from Olympic park so seems wierd to have 2 top stadiums so close but it always has seemed weird I guess and the other being is their somewhere to put it in the complex

However i really think thats a brilliant idea in what is meant to be a precinct.

Supporters should really wake up .. your tax dollars built a purpose built stadium only kms away from the Olympic precinct a great place to watch footy... instead of being so pedantic and critical we should be grateful such a great facility is available .
Honestly words fail sometimes at the garbage that is trotted out as to why god forbid our club should not use this facility! You all paid for It ....

You want to know why -

It's Parras home ground and always will be.

Has their Leagues club next door.

We prefer other choices.

We don't like it.

Stop trying to force it down our necks. You like it, good, doesn't mean we have to agree.

Just rubbish !

The response I expected - glad you did not disappoint.

Give a valid reason without emotive thinking .. there is none !

I gave you a few. Other people do not have to agree with you.

You do know that don't you.

Every five seconds you are on here - Bankwest!, Bankwest!, Bankwest!

We have not got dementia - we have taken your thoughts on board.

I have put forward in the last few days why not ANZ .. but that is not good enough also !
The only agenda I have is a place our club can call home and a place where our supporter base gets value for money in a modern and central hub that is assessable to all our supporters in the Sydney basin !
I do not have got an attachment to these outdated suburban grounds even though spending 20 yrs attending one !
This has gone on long enough our club needs a home ...

We have three at the moment

Leichhardt, Campbelltown and Parramattas home.

I'm at least happy with two of them, I'll be happy with three when we switch back to ANZ.

Why would you want to be at a stadium with 60000 empty seats?

It’s called growing the game. I’d rather be trying to fill an 50,000 to 80,000 seat stadium rather than a 20,000-30,000 seat stadium. Why? Because if it’s a 20,0000-30,000 seat stadium that’s what you are limited, zero growth. People need to stop looking at the past or even the present. Look to the future 10-20 years and what it should be. 20K stadiums, that’ll do me, the game is heading backwards as far as crowds attendance at the game is concerned, if that is our choice.

Seriously? I think you are underselling us here, I don't think ANZ is big enough, I think we need to build the 1st 200k stadium and try and fill that.

You want our aim to be filling an 80000 seat stadium when we don't even average a quarter of that. How about we fill the 30000 seat one regularly and then look to the 80000 venue?

It also does not give us zero growth at Bankwest, we have an average of 17k, lets fill those 13k other seats. That would be growth, if we hit that 30k we could always then use the 80k stadium if we need it for certain games.

You guys have absolutely no vision. You are stuck in the now and the past. If clubs are to survive they need big member numbers, and consequently grounds to hold them. If we keep in this small no growth track we will eventually wither and die.

No vision lol, you want to play in an inappropriate stadium because the other option is built on the same site as parra stadium. Your vision is to provided a worse experience because of a grudge.

I don’t have any grudge, I don’t know where you got that from. I’m just tired of poor grounds with lack of facilities for members and sponsors. It’s time to move forward not back to the last century. There is an opportunity here, let’s not waste it.

But you are suggesting we play at ANZ which is a poor ground with a lack of appropriate facilities for our needs.

It’s a great ground with fantastic facilities for both members and sponsors. It would have been better with a rebuild/revamp, bringing the crowds closer to the play, but that is not going to happen. I understand that some don’t like it but a lot do and so do sponsors. It’s a great game day experience for them.

I believe under the current environment ANZ will not be our home ground. If we are going to redevelop LO and/or CSS don’t just do it for now, do it for 30 yrs into the future. These opportunities don’t come along often, let’s get it right. 20K is just too small and puts a cap the ability to grow the game.

 

[gallagher]

Whoever said LO/CSS for the out of town opposition home games and ANZ/BankWest for the Sydney opposition home games I think has it right with the grounds in their current state and configurations. I think this maximises the revenue for the club and minimises any losses.

100 of millions of $$ need to be spent Leichhardt and/or Campbelltown to rebuild them to modern accepted standards if that is to ever change. I just cannot see one home ground being practical in the next 5-10 years. With ANZ revamp not going ahead it’s probably going to stay the way it is, multiple home grounds for a very long time.

VLandys is pushing for 100s of millions for knock down and rebuilds for up to 4 stadiums.

Gladys will not wear that for a bit extra you do ANZ..

Well her govt entered an agreement with the NRL to spend that amount. I'd be backing VLandys on that fight.
A 20k stadium as Homebush would suit 3 clubs, I wonder it that's a possibility.

That is the best idea I've heard - not sure on space out their for another stadium but def a great idea. Only 2 issues I see is that Bankwest is only 15 minutes away from Olympic park so seems wierd to have 2 top stadiums so close but it always has seemed weird I guess and the other being is their somewhere to put it in the complex

However i really think thats a brilliant idea in what is meant to be a precinct.

Supporters should really wake up .. your tax dollars built a purpose built stadium only kms away from the Olympic precinct a great place to watch footy... instead of being so pedantic and critical we should be grateful such a great facility is available .
Honestly words fail sometimes at the garbage that is trotted out as to why god forbid our club should not use this facility! You all paid for It ....

You want to know why -

It's Parras home ground and always will be.

Has their Leagues club next door.

We prefer other choices.

We don't like it.

Stop trying to force it down our necks. You like it, good, doesn't mean we have to agree.

Just rubbish !

Whoever said LO/CSS for the out of town opposition home games and ANZ/BankWest for the Sydney opposition home games I think has it right with the grounds in their current state and configurations. I think this maximises the revenue for the club and minimises any losses.

100 of millions of $$ need to be spent Leichhardt and/or Campbelltown to rebuild them to modern accepted standards if that is to ever change. I just cannot see one home ground being practical in the next 5-10 years. With ANZ revamp not going ahead it’s probably going to stay the way it is, multiple home grounds for a very long time.

VLandys is pushing for 100s of millions for knock down and rebuilds for up to 4 stadiums.

Gladys will not wear that for a bit extra you do ANZ..

Well her govt entered an agreement with the NRL to spend that amount. I'd be backing VLandys on that fight.
A 20k stadium as Homebush would suit 3 clubs, I wonder it that's a possibility.

That is the best idea I've heard - not sure on space out their for another stadium but def a great idea. Only 2 issues I see is that Bankwest is only 15 minutes away from Olympic park so seems wierd to have 2 top stadiums so close but it always has seemed weird I guess and the other being is their somewhere to put it in the complex

However i really think thats a brilliant idea in what is meant to be a precinct.

Supporters should really wake up .. your tax dollars built a purpose built stadium only kms away from the Olympic precinct a great place to watch footy... instead of being so pedantic and critical we should be grateful such a great facility is available .
Honestly words fail sometimes at the garbage that is trotted out as to why god forbid our club should not use this facility! You all paid for It ....

You want to know why -

It's Parras home ground and always will be.

Has their Leagues club next door.

We prefer other choices.

We don't like it.

Stop trying to force it down our necks. You like it, good, doesn't mean we have to agree.

Just rubbish !

The response I expected - glad you did not disappoint.

Give a valid reason without emotive thinking .. there is none !

I gave you a few. Other people do not have to agree with you.

You do know that don't you.

Every five seconds you are on here - Bankwest!, Bankwest!, Bankwest!

We have not got dementia - we have taken your thoughts on board.

I have put forward in the last few days why not ANZ .. but that is not good enough also !
The only agenda I have is a place our club can call home and a place where our supporter base gets value for money in a modern and central hub that is assessable to all our supporters in the Sydney basin !
I do not have got an attachment to these outdated suburban grounds even though spending 20 yrs attending one !
This has gone on long enough our club needs a home ...

Whoever said LO/CSS for the out of town opposition home games and ANZ/BankWest for the Sydney opposition home games I think has it right with the grounds in their current state and configurations. I think this maximises the revenue for the club and minimises any losses.

100 of millions of $$ need to be spent Leichhardt and/or Campbelltown to rebuild them to modern accepted standards if that is to ever change. I just cannot see one home ground being practical in the next 5-10 years. With ANZ revamp not going ahead it’s probably going to stay the way it is, multiple home grounds for a very long time.

VLandys is pushing for 100s of millions for knock down and rebuilds for up to 4 stadiums.

Gladys will not wear that for a bit extra you do ANZ..

Well her govt entered an agreement with the NRL to spend that amount. I'd be backing VLandys on that fight.
A 20k stadium as Homebush would suit 3 clubs, I wonder it that's a possibility.

That is the best idea I've heard - not sure on space out their for another stadium but def a great idea. Only 2 issues I see is that Bankwest is only 15 minutes away from Olympic park so seems wierd to have 2 top stadiums so close but it always has seemed weird I guess and the other being is their somewhere to put it in the complex

However i really think thats a brilliant idea in what is meant to be a precinct.

Supporters should really wake up .. your tax dollars built a purpose built stadium only kms away from the Olympic precinct a great place to watch footy... instead of being so pedantic and critical we should be grateful such a great facility is available .
Honestly words fail sometimes at the garbage that is trotted out as to why god forbid our club should not use this facility! You all paid for It ....

You want to know why -

It's Parras home ground and always will be.

Has their Leagues club next door.

We prefer other choices.

We don't like it.

Stop trying to force it down our necks. You like it, good, doesn't mean we have to agree.

Just rubbish !

Whoever said LO/CSS for the out of town opposition home games and ANZ/BankWest for the Sydney opposition home games I think has it right with the grounds in their current state and configurations. I think this maximises the revenue for the club and minimises any losses.

100 of millions of $$ need to be spent Leichhardt and/or Campbelltown to rebuild them to modern accepted standards if that is to ever change. I just cannot see one home ground being practical in the next 5-10 years. With ANZ revamp not going ahead it’s probably going to stay the way it is, multiple home grounds for a very long time.

VLandys is pushing for 100s of millions for knock down and rebuilds for up to 4 stadiums.

Gladys will not wear that for a bit extra you do ANZ..

Well her govt entered an agreement with the NRL to spend that amount. I'd be backing VLandys on that fight.
A 20k stadium as Homebush would suit 3 clubs, I wonder it that's a possibility.

That is the best idea I've heard - not sure on space out their for another stadium but def a great idea. Only 2 issues I see is that Bankwest is only 15 minutes away from Olympic park so seems wierd to have 2 top stadiums so close but it always has seemed weird I guess and the other being is their somewhere to put it in the complex

However i really think thats a brilliant idea in what is meant to be a precinct.

Supporters should really wake up .. your tax dollars built a purpose built stadium only kms away from the Olympic precinct a great place to watch footy... instead of being so pedantic and critical we should be grateful such a great facility is available .
Honestly words fail sometimes at the garbage that is trotted out as to why god forbid our club should not use this facility! You all paid for It ....

You want to know why -

It's Parras home ground and always will be.

Has their Leagues club next door.

We prefer other choices.

We don't like it.

Stop trying to force it down our necks. You like it, good, doesn't mean we have to agree.

Just rubbish !

The response I expected - glad you did not disappoint.

Give a valid reason without emotive thinking .. there is none !

I gave you a few. Other people do not have to agree with you.

You do know that don't you.

Every five seconds you are on here - Bankwest!, Bankwest!, Bankwest!

We have not got dementia - we have taken your thoughts on board.

I have put forward in the last few days why not ANZ .. but that is not good enough also !
The only agenda I have is a place our club can call home and a place where our supporter base gets value for money in a modern and central hub that is assessable to all our supporters in the Sydney basin !
I do not have got an attachment to these outdated suburban grounds even though spending 20 yrs attending one !
This has gone on long enough our club needs a home ...

We have three at the moment

Leichhardt, Campbelltown and Parramattas home.

I'm at least happy with two of them, I'll be happy with three when we switch back to ANZ.

Why would you want to be at a stadium with 60000 empty seats?

It’s called growing the game. I’d rather be trying to fill an 50,000 to 80,000 seat stadium rather than a 20,000-30,000 seat stadium. Why? Because if it’s a 20,0000-30,000 seat stadium that’s what you are limited, zero growth. People need to stop looking at the past or even the present. Look to the future 10-20 years and what it should be. 20K stadiums, that’ll do me, the game is heading backwards as far as crowds attendance at the game is concerned, if that is our choice.

Seriously? I think you are underselling us here, I don't think ANZ is big enough, I think we need to build the 1st 200k stadium and try and fill that.

You want our aim to be filling an 80000 seat stadium when we don't even average a quarter of that. How about we fill the 30000 seat one regularly and then look to the 80000 venue?

It also does not give us zero growth at Bankwest, we have an average of 17k, lets fill those 13k other seats. That would be growth, if we hit that 30k we could always then use the 80k stadium if we need it for certain games.

You guys have absolutely no vision. You are stuck in the now and the past. If clubs are to survive they need big member numbers, and consequently grounds to hold them. If we keep in this small no growth track we will eventually wither and die.

No vision lol, you want to play in an inappropriate stadium because the other option is built on the same site as parra stadium. Your vision is to provided a worse experience because of a grudge.

I don’t have any grudge, I don’t know where you got that from. I’m just tired of poor grounds with lack of facilities for members and sponsors. It’s time to move forward not back to the last century. There is an opportunity here, let’s not waste it.

But you are suggesting we play at ANZ which is a poor ground with a lack of appropriate facilities for our needs.

It’s a great ground with fantastic facilities for both members and sponsors. It would have been better with a rebuild/revamp, bringing the crowds closer to the play, but that is not going to happen. I understand that some don’t like it but a lot do and so do sponsors. It’s a great game day experience for them.

I believe under the current environment ANZ will not be our home ground. If we are going to redevelop LO and/or CSS don’t just do it for now, do it for 30 yrs into the future. These opportunities don’t come along often, let’s get it right. 20K is just too small and puts a cap the ability to grow the game.

I like ANZ. I always planned my trips to Sydney around our home games there.

 

[Telltails]

Parramatta is very fortunate to be in the position that they are in - in terms of the stadium. There is no question about whether it's their home ground or not it always will be. Whether our club thinks we can share it as equal partners is up to the decision makers. But with the Sydney clubs being a very tribal market to compete with Parramatta for equal status - without being absorbed by them - we will need to be just as strong and if we are not at that point yet there is no way I would be calling that stadium our home ground.

 

[jirskyr]

Whoever said LO/CSS for the out of town opposition home games and ANZ/BankWest for the Sydney opposition home games I think has it right with the grounds in their current state and configurations. I think this maximises the revenue for the club and minimises any losses.

100 of millions of $$ need to be spent Leichhardt and/or Campbelltown to rebuild them to modern accepted standards if that is to ever change. I just cannot see one home ground being practical in the next 5-10 years. With ANZ revamp not going ahead it’s probably going to stay the way it is, multiple home grounds for a very long time.

VLandys is pushing for 100s of millions for knock down and rebuilds for up to 4 stadiums.

Gladys will not wear that for a bit extra you do ANZ..

Well her govt entered an agreement with the NRL to spend that amount. I'd be backing VLandys on that fight.
A 20k stadium as Homebush would suit 3 clubs, I wonder it that's a possibility.

That is the best idea I've heard - not sure on space out their for another stadium but def a great idea. Only 2 issues I see is that Bankwest is only 15 minutes away from Olympic park so seems wierd to have 2 top stadiums so close but it always has seemed weird I guess and the other being is their somewhere to put it in the complex

However i really think thats a brilliant idea in what is meant to be a precinct.

A second 20K stadium at Homebush and leave the 80K one standing? What justification for that? Haven't they still got that little Showgrounds Stadium at Homebush, that Doggies played out of for a few seasons?

The Showground was redeveloped for the GWS Giants, it is now a boutique AFL ground right next to an 80k seat oval stadium. If AFL can have a boutique stadium literally 200 mtrs from ANZ there is no reason Rugby League can't have one in the same precinct. The biggest argument against a boutique stadium at Olympic Park is the proximity to Bankwest and in all honesty it is probably a killer to the idea.

I would think the biggest argument against a boutique stadium at Homebush is the fact that there is an 80K stadium next door. How could you possibly justify that? Is there literally anywhere in the world an 75K+ stadium next door to a 20K stadium that both host the same sport?

AFL don't play games at ANZ anymore, they let the contract lapse in 2016. Swans don't want to play away from SCG anymore since AFL crowds at ANZ fell consistently between 2002 and 2016.

The NSW Govt acknowledged ANZ's primary current purpose when originally deciding to permanently reconfigure ANZ into a truly rectangular field. It can do this and still host top-tier rugby, soccer and concerts.

 

[cochise]

Whoever said LO/CSS for the out of town opposition home games and ANZ/BankWest for the Sydney opposition home games I think has it right with the grounds in their current state and configurations. I think this maximises the revenue for the club and minimises any losses.

100 of millions of $$ need to be spent Leichhardt and/or Campbelltown to rebuild them to modern accepted standards if that is to ever change. I just cannot see one home ground being practical in the next 5-10 years. With ANZ revamp not going ahead it’s probably going to stay the way it is, multiple home grounds for a very long time.

VLandys is pushing for 100s of millions for knock down and rebuilds for up to 4 stadiums.

Gladys will not wear that for a bit extra you do ANZ..

Well her govt entered an agreement with the NRL to spend that amount. I'd be backing VLandys on that fight.
A 20k stadium as Homebush would suit 3 clubs, I wonder it that's a possibility.

That is the best idea I've heard - not sure on space out their for another stadium but def a great idea. Only 2 issues I see is that Bankwest is only 15 minutes away from Olympic park so seems wierd to have 2 top stadiums so close but it always has seemed weird I guess and the other being is their somewhere to put it in the complex

However i really think thats a brilliant idea in what is meant to be a precinct.

Supporters should really wake up .. your tax dollars built a purpose built stadium only kms away from the Olympic precinct a great place to watch footy... instead of being so pedantic and critical we should be grateful such a great facility is available .
Honestly words fail sometimes at the garbage that is trotted out as to why god forbid our club should not use this facility! You all paid for It ....

You want to know why -

It's Parras home ground and always will be.

Has their Leagues club next door.

We prefer other choices.

We don't like it.

Stop trying to force it down our necks. You like it, good, doesn't mean we have to agree.

Just rubbish !

Whoever said LO/CSS for the out of town opposition home games and ANZ/BankWest for the Sydney opposition home games I think has it right with the grounds in their current state and configurations. I think this maximises the revenue for the club and minimises any losses.

100 of millions of $$ need to be spent Leichhardt and/or Campbelltown to rebuild them to modern accepted standards if that is to ever change. I just cannot see one home ground being practical in the next 5-10 years. With ANZ revamp not going ahead it’s probably going to stay the way it is, multiple home grounds for a very long time.

VLandys is pushing for 100s of millions for knock down and rebuilds for up to 4 stadiums.

Gladys will not wear that for a bit extra you do ANZ..

Well her govt entered an agreement with the NRL to spend that amount. I'd be backing VLandys on that fight.
A 20k stadium as Homebush would suit 3 clubs, I wonder it that's a possibility.

That is the best idea I've heard - not sure on space out their for another stadium but def a great idea. Only 2 issues I see is that Bankwest is only 15 minutes away from Olympic park so seems wierd to have 2 top stadiums so close but it always has seemed weird I guess and the other being is their somewhere to put it in the complex

However i really think thats a brilliant idea in what is meant to be a precinct.

Supporters should really wake up .. your tax dollars built a purpose built stadium only kms away from the Olympic precinct a great place to watch footy... instead of being so pedantic and critical we should be grateful such a great facility is available .
Honestly words fail sometimes at the garbage that is trotted out as to why god forbid our club should not use this facility! You all paid for It ....

You want to know why -

It's Parras home ground and always will be.

Has their Leagues club next door.

We prefer other choices.

We don't like it.

Stop trying to force it down our necks. You like it, good, doesn't mean we have to agree.

Just rubbish !

The response I expected - glad you did not disappoint.

Give a valid reason without emotive thinking .. there is none !

I gave you a few. Other people do not have to agree with you.

You do know that don't you.

Every five seconds you are on here - Bankwest!, Bankwest!, Bankwest!

We have not got dementia - we have taken your thoughts on board.

I have put forward in the last few days why not ANZ .. but that is not good enough also !
The only agenda I have is a place our club can call home and a place where our supporter base gets value for money in a modern and central hub that is assessable to all our supporters in the Sydney basin !
I do not have got an attachment to these outdated suburban grounds even though spending 20 yrs attending one !
This has gone on long enough our club needs a home ...

Whoever said LO/CSS for the out of town opposition home games and ANZ/BankWest for the Sydney opposition home games I think has it right with the grounds in their current state and configurations. I think this maximises the revenue for the club and minimises any losses.

100 of millions of $$ need to be spent Leichhardt and/or Campbelltown to rebuild them to modern accepted standards if that is to ever change. I just cannot see one home ground being practical in the next 5-10 years. With ANZ revamp not going ahead it’s probably going to stay the way it is, multiple home grounds for a very long time.

VLandys is pushing for 100s of millions for knock down and rebuilds for up to 4 stadiums.

Gladys will not wear that for a bit extra you do ANZ..

Well her govt entered an agreement with the NRL to spend that amount. I'd be backing VLandys on that fight.
A 20k stadium as Homebush would suit 3 clubs, I wonder it that's a possibility.

That is the best idea I've heard - not sure on space out their for another stadium but def a great idea. Only 2 issues I see is that Bankwest is only 15 minutes away from Olympic park so seems wierd to have 2 top stadiums so close but it always has seemed weird I guess and the other being is their somewhere to put it in the complex

However i really think thats a brilliant idea in what is meant to be a precinct.

Supporters should really wake up .. your tax dollars built a purpose built stadium only kms away from the Olympic precinct a great place to watch footy... instead of being so pedantic and critical we should be grateful such a great facility is available .
Honestly words fail sometimes at the garbage that is trotted out as to why god forbid our club should not use this facility! You all paid for It ....

You want to know why -

It's Parras home ground and always will be.

Has their Leagues club next door.

We prefer other choices.

We don't like it.

Stop trying to force it down our necks. You like it, good, doesn't mean we have to agree.

Just rubbish !

Whoever said LO/CSS for the out of town opposition home games and ANZ/BankWest for the Sydney opposition home games I think has it right with the grounds in their current state and configurations. I think this maximises the revenue for the club and minimises any losses.

100 of millions of $$ need to be spent Leichhardt and/or Campbelltown to rebuild them to modern accepted standards if that is to ever change. I just cannot see one home ground being practical in the next 5-10 years. With ANZ revamp not going ahead it’s probably going to stay the way it is, multiple home grounds for a very long time.

VLandys is pushing for 100s of millions for knock down and rebuilds for up to 4 stadiums.

Gladys will not wear that for a bit extra you do ANZ..

Well her govt entered an agreement with the NRL to spend that amount. I'd be backing VLandys on that fight.
A 20k stadium as Homebush would suit 3 clubs, I wonder it that's a possibility.

That is the best idea I've heard - not sure on space out their for another stadium but def a great idea. Only 2 issues I see is that Bankwest is only 15 minutes away from Olympic park so seems wierd to have 2 top stadiums so close but it always has seemed weird I guess and the other being is their somewhere to put it in the complex

However i really think thats a brilliant idea in what is meant to be a precinct.

Supporters should really wake up .. your tax dollars built a purpose built stadium only kms away from the Olympic precinct a great place to watch footy... instead of being so pedantic and critical we should be grateful such a great facility is available .
Honestly words fail sometimes at the garbage that is trotted out as to why god forbid our club should not use this facility! You all paid for It ....

You want to know why -

It's Parras home ground and always will be.

Has their Leagues club next door.

We prefer other choices.

We don't like it.

Stop trying to force it down our necks. You like it, good, doesn't mean we have to agree.

Just rubbish !

The response I expected - glad you did not disappoint.

Give a valid reason without emotive thinking .. there is none !

I gave you a few. Other people do not have to agree with you.

You do know that don't you.

Every five seconds you are on here - Bankwest!, Bankwest!, Bankwest!

We have not got dementia - we have taken your thoughts on board.

I have put forward in the last few days why not ANZ .. but that is not good enough also !
The only agenda I have is a place our club can call home and a place where our supporter base gets value for money in a modern and central hub that is assessable to all our supporters in the Sydney basin !
I do not have got an attachment to these outdated suburban grounds even though spending 20 yrs attending one !
This has gone on long enough our club needs a home ...

We have three at the moment

Leichhardt, Campbelltown and Parramattas home.

I'm at least happy with two of them, I'll be happy with three when we switch back to ANZ.

Why would you want to be at a stadium with 60000 empty seats?

It’s called growing the game. I’d rather be trying to fill an 50,000 to 80,000 seat stadium rather than a 20,000-30,000 seat stadium. Why? Because if it’s a 20,0000-30,000 seat stadium that’s what you are limited, zero growth. People need to stop looking at the past or even the present. Look to the future 10-20 years and what it should be. 20K stadiums, that’ll do me, the game is heading backwards as far as crowds attendance at the game is concerned, if that is our choice.

Seriously? I think you are underselling us here, I don't think ANZ is big enough, I think we need to build the 1st 200k stadium and try and fill that.

You want our aim to be filling an 80000 seat stadium when we don't even average a quarter of that. How about we fill the 30000 seat one regularly and then look to the 80000 venue?

It also does not give us zero growth at Bankwest, we have an average of 17k, lets fill those 13k other seats. That would be growth, if we hit that 30k we could always then use the 80k stadium if we need it for certain games.

You guys have absolutely no vision. You are stuck in the now and the past. If clubs are to survive they need big member numbers, and consequently grounds to hold them. If we keep in this small no growth track we will eventually wither and die.

No vision lol, you want to play in an inappropriate stadium because the other option is built on the same site as parra stadium. Your vision is to provided a worse experience because of a grudge.

I don’t have any grudge, I don’t know where you got that from. I’m just tired of poor grounds with lack of facilities for members and sponsors. It’s time to move forward not back to the last century. There is an opportunity here, let’s not waste it.

But you are suggesting we play at ANZ which is a poor ground with a lack of appropriate facilities for our needs.

It’s a great ground with fantastic facilities for both members and sponsors. It would have been better with a rebuild/revamp, bringing the crowds closer to the play, but that is not going to happen. I understand that some don’t like it but a lot do and so do sponsors. It’s a great game day experience for them.

I believe under the current environment ANZ will not be our home ground. If we are going to redevelop LO and/or CSS don’t just do it for now, do it for 30 yrs into the future. These opportunities don’t come along often, let’s get it right. 20K is just too small and puts a cap the ability to grow the game.

I don't call sitting in a crowd of 15000 in an 80000 seat stadium a great experience, the game day experience at ANZ in non existent. It is in the middle of nowhere with noting to do before and after the game, it is just dead and lifeless which is appropriate because that is how it feels inside the ground unless there are at least 35000 people there.

Bankwest being in the heart of Parramatta, I can go for dinner after a game, my wife is more likely to attend, the place is just made for watching football. It is just an all round better experience.

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

if you put a satelite leagues club at ANZ that would help

 

[jirskyr]

It is not Parramatta's home ground though is it?

Bankwest wasn't built to be Parramattas home ground it was built as a multi tenant ground. ANZ is the home ground of both Souths and the Bulldogs as well, I don't get this argument at all.

It replaced Parramatta Stadium, how could it be anything else.

You do not get the sense that ANZ is Souffs or Dogs home ground when you are sitting at ANZ watching the Tigers at our home game though.

So what if it replaced Parra Stadium? It is a NSW public asset. I don't hear Wanderers fans saying that it isn't there home ground. I don't get the sense I'm a Parra's homeground when sitting at Bankwest, I'm surrounded by Wests Tigers supporters where as at ANZ I'm sitting with thousands of empty seats.

I don't feel the same way, though I understand what you are saying. Bankwest has the ghosts of Parramatta Stadium all over it and I can't get past that, at least not yet - it might happen a few more seasons of home matches. I just see a rebuilt Parramatta Stadium, not a neutral venue.

When you get off at PARRAMATTA station and walk up CHURCH ST to the ground, see the PARRAMATTA Leagues Club with EELS logo across the road from the main entrance - it's Eels territory. It barely even pretends to be anything different with the Leagues club across the road. At the very least Homebush has no fixed supporter base or history.

Imagine if the NSW Govt knocked down Leichhardt Oval, built a boutique stadium there and then sold it as a neutral inner-west venue for Wests, Canterbury, Dragons and Souths? No hell no way does any Doggies fan walk down Mary St to the new "Westpac Inner West Stadium" and not smell Balmain and Wests Tigers everywhere. Or if they did the same at Belmore Oval and I had to get off at Belmore Station, see Canterbury Leagues club and pretend I was going to a true Wests Tigers home game.

 

[cochise]

I would think the biggest argument against a boutique stadium at Homebush is the fact that there is an 80K stadium next door. How could you possibly justify that? Is there literally anywhere in the world an 75K+ stadium next door to a 20K stadium that both host the same sport?

That is literally what happened with the AFL getting the showground redeveloped for them, if the Giants start getting any support they will be playing their finals matches at ANZ. The AFL already opposed the redevelopment of ANZ stating they would use it if the Giants hosted the Swans for a finals clash. So you didn't have to look all over the world for your example, you didn't even need to leave the same sporting precinct we were discussing.

 

[gallagher]

Whoever said LO/CSS for the out of town opposition home games and ANZ/BankWest for the Sydney opposition home games I think has it right with the grounds in their current state and configurations. I think this maximises the revenue for the club and minimises any losses.

100 of millions of $$ need to be spent Leichhardt and/or Campbelltown to rebuild them to modern accepted standards if that is to ever change. I just cannot see one home ground being practical in the next 5-10 years. With ANZ revamp not going ahead it’s probably going to stay the way it is, multiple home grounds for a very long time.

VLandys is pushing for 100s of millions for knock down and rebuilds for up to 4 stadiums.

Gladys will not wear that for a bit extra you do ANZ..

Well her govt entered an agreement with the NRL to spend that amount. I'd be backing VLandys on that fight.
A 20k stadium as Homebush would suit 3 clubs, I wonder it that's a possibility.

That is the best idea I've heard - not sure on space out their for another stadium but def a great idea. Only 2 issues I see is that Bankwest is only 15 minutes away from Olympic park so seems wierd to have 2 top stadiums so close but it always has seemed weird I guess and the other being is their somewhere to put it in the complex

However i really think thats a brilliant idea in what is meant to be a precinct.

A second 20K stadium at Homebush and leave the 80K one standing? What justification for that? Haven't they still got that little Showgrounds Stadium at Homebush, that Doggies played out of for a few seasons?

The Showground was redeveloped for the GWS Giants, it is now a boutique AFL ground right next to an 80k seat oval stadium. If AFL can have a boutique stadium literally 200 mtrs from ANZ there is no reason Rugby League can't have one in the same precinct. The biggest argument against a boutique stadium at Olympic Park is the proximity to Bankwest and in all honesty it is probably a killer to the idea.

I would think the biggest argument against a boutique stadium at Homebush is the fact that there is an 80K stadium next door. How could you possibly justify that? Is there literally anywhere in the world an 75K+ stadium next door to a 20K stadium that both host the same sport?

AFL don't play games at ANZ anymore, they let the contract lapse in 2016. Swans don't want to play away from SCG anymore since AFL crowds at ANZ fell consistently between 2002 and 2016.

The NSW Govt acknowledged ANZ's primary current purpose when originally deciding to permanently reconfigure ANZ into a truly rectangular field. It can do this and still host top-tier rugby, soccer and concerts.

Just because it may not happen anywhere else doesn't mean it's a bad idea. That was a reason people where saying why the NRL couldn't restart last week.
The MCG and Docklands are only 5kms apart, does that make sense?

 

[cochise]

At the very least Homebush has no fixed supporter base or history.

No history, no culture, no presence, no atmosphere, no life, no gameday experience. Lots no s can be attributed to ANZ.

It has none of those things because it is a giant cavern in the middle of nowhere, you can't even get dinner after a game. It is a plastic experience attending ANZ.

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

make it our own out there the Ashfield leagues is 6km away it is our territory

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

At the very least Homebush has no fixed supporter base or history.

No history, no culture, no presence, no atmosphere, no life, no gameday experience. Lots no s can be attributed to ANZ.

It has none of those things because it is a giant cavern in the middle of nowhere, you can't even get dinner after a game. It is a plastic experience attending ANZ.

It's cavernous and plastic experience when there's 15K there. When there's 88K Australians and Koreans there watching Australia and South Korea the Asian Cup final it's a phenomenal experience.

 

[jirskyr]

I would think the biggest argument against a boutique stadium at Homebush is the fact that there is an 80K stadium next door. How could you possibly justify that? Is there literally anywhere in the world an 75K+ stadium next door to a 20K stadium that both host the same sport?

That is literally what happened with the AFL getting the showground redeveloped for them, if the Giants start getting any support they will be playing their finals matches at ANZ. The AFL already opposed the redevelopment of ANZ stating they would use it if the Giants hosted the Swans for a finals clash. So you didn't have to look all over the world for your example, you didn't even need to leave the same sporting precinct we were discussing.

They don't play AFL at ANZ any more and the government was turning ANZ into a rectangle-only stadium. So it's not the same thing. The AFL showground got redev. because AFL were abandoning ANZ in favour of a smaller venue.

And the govt are not going to hold ANZ for potential oval games in order to host a theoretical Giants/Swans finals clash, the odds of that being a regular occurrence are small.

Where in the world are there two grounds next door to each other, both over 20K, that host the same events? There might be one, I'd be curious to know where it is and why. It makes no sense to me.

 

[cochise]

At the very least Homebush has no fixed supporter base or history.

No history, no culture, no presence, no atmosphere, no life, no gameday experience. Lots no s can be attributed to ANZ.

It has none of those things because it is a giant cavern in the middle of nowhere, you can't even get dinner after a game. It is a plastic experience attending ANZ.

It's cavernous and plastic experience when there's 15K there. When there's 88K Australians and Koreans there watching Australia and South Korea the Asian Cup final it's a phenomenal experience.

Agreed mate, but that is my point, I love going to State of Origin at ANZ, its a great experience. For use by the Wests Tigers for club games though, it is grossly inappropriate to meet our needs.

 

[jirskyr]

Whoever said LO/CSS for the out of town opposition home games and ANZ/BankWest for the Sydney opposition home games I think has it right with the grounds in their current state and configurations. I think this maximises the revenue for the club and minimises any losses.

100 of millions of $$ need to be spent Leichhardt and/or Campbelltown to rebuild them to modern accepted standards if that is to ever change. I just cannot see one home ground being practical in the next 5-10 years. With ANZ revamp not going ahead it’s probably going to stay the way it is, multiple home grounds for a very long time.

VLandys is pushing for 100s of millions for knock down and rebuilds for up to 4 stadiums.

Gladys will not wear that for a bit extra you do ANZ..

Well her govt entered an agreement with the NRL to spend that amount. I'd be backing VLandys on that fight.
A 20k stadium as Homebush would suit 3 clubs, I wonder it that's a possibility.

That is the best idea I've heard - not sure on space out their for another stadium but def a great idea. Only 2 issues I see is that Bankwest is only 15 minutes away from Olympic park so seems wierd to have 2 top stadiums so close but it always has seemed weird I guess and the other being is their somewhere to put it in the complex

However i really think thats a brilliant idea in what is meant to be a precinct.

A second 20K stadium at Homebush and leave the 80K one standing? What justification for that? Haven't they still got that little Showgrounds Stadium at Homebush, that Doggies played out of for a few seasons?

The Showground was redeveloped for the GWS Giants, it is now a boutique AFL ground right next to an 80k seat oval stadium. If AFL can have a boutique stadium literally 200 mtrs from ANZ there is no reason Rugby League can't have one in the same precinct. The biggest argument against a boutique stadium at Olympic Park is the proximity to Bankwest and in all honesty it is probably a killer to the idea.

I would think the biggest argument against a boutique stadium at Homebush is the fact that there is an 80K stadium next door. How could you possibly justify that? Is there literally anywhere in the world an 75K+ stadium next door to a 20K stadium that both host the same sport?

AFL don't play games at ANZ anymore, they let the contract lapse in 2016. Swans don't want to play away from SCG anymore since AFL crowds at ANZ fell consistently between 2002 and 2016.

The NSW Govt acknowledged ANZ's primary current purpose when originally deciding to permanently reconfigure ANZ into a truly rectangular field. It can do this and still host top-tier rugby, soccer and concerts.

Just because it may not happen anywhere else doesn't mean it's a bad idea. That was a reason people where saying why the NRL couldn't restart last week.
The MCG and Docklands are only 5kms apart, does that make sense?

It does for Melbourne. I believe they are actually closer than 5 km apart, only about 3.5 as crow flies.

I have no trouble with a second stadium ~5 kms from Homebush. ANZ and Bankwest are only 7 km apart.

 

[cochise]

I would think the biggest argument against a boutique stadium at Homebush is the fact that there is an 80K stadium next door. How could you possibly justify that? Is there literally anywhere in the world an 75K+ stadium next door to a 20K stadium that both host the same sport?

That is literally what happened with the AFL getting the showground redeveloped for them, if the Giants start getting any support they will be playing their finals matches at ANZ. The AFL already opposed the redevelopment of ANZ stating they would use it if the Giants hosted the Swans for a finals clash. So you didn't have to look all over the world for your example, you didn't even need to leave the same sporting precinct we were discussing.

They don't play AFL at ANZ any more and the government was turning ANZ into a rectangle-only stadium. So it's not the same thing. The AFL showground got redev. because AFL were abandoning ANZ in favour of a smaller venue.

And the govt are not going to hold ANZ for potential oval games in order to host a theoretical Giants/Swans finals clash, the odds of that being a regular occurrence are small.

Where in the world are there two grounds next door to each other, both over 20K, that host the same events? There might be one, I'd be curious to know where it is and why. It makes no sense to me.

Yes and the NRL should abandon ANZ for club matches, it is farcical that the game continues to use the ground for nything other than big events. ANZ is only appropriate as and events stadium, it is horrible for anything else.