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AmericanHistoryX

AmericanHistoryX

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winning 8-0 and a penalty in front of the posts and we kick for touch but yet the penalty before that we kick for goal.
What happened?
 
Seriously do the maths… A converted try is worth 6 points. So leading by 8 has considerably advantage to a 6 point lead. However leading by 10 is not so much better than 8 since 2 converted tries will put you up regardless. But if you score a try, 14-0 is more than 2 tries up...

It wasn't a bad decision - it was probably the right decision.
 
Thats exactly what i was thinking at the time.10 nil ensures a two try advantage.So who makes the call ? The captain or the coach ? we lead 10 - 0 at the break and who knows .
 
If we could have got to 14 nil it could have been all over and we did appear to have the upperhand at that time. But I am a fan of taking two points when its available.
 
@Yossarian said:
Seriously do the maths… A converted try is worth 6 points. So leading by 8 has considerably advantage to a 6 point lead. However leading by 10 is not so much better than 8 since 2 converted tries will put you up regardless. But if you score a try, 14-0 is more than 2 tries up...

It wasn't a bad decision - it was probably the right decision.
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so you lead 6-0 with Manly on the ropes and you take the two, give them a break to reset.imo you either take the tap at 6-0 and go for a try ,or you take both gift two points
 
@1/4 chicken said:
Thats exactly what i was thinking at the time.10 nil ensures a two try advantage.So who makes the call ? The captain or the coach ? we lead 10 - 0 at the break and who knows .
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Then we lose 20-22 not 18-22… Really don't think things would have changed if we were up 10-0 rather than 8-0\. But if we scored and went up 14-0 it would have been a massive lead in the context of the game.
 
@1/4 chicken said:
@Yossarian said:
Seriously do the maths… A converted try is worth 6 points. So leading by 8 has considerably advantage to a 6 point lead. However leading by 10 is not so much better than 8 since 2 converted tries will put you up regardless. But if you score a try, 14-0 is more than 2 tries up...

It wasn't a bad decision - it was probably the right decision.

so you lead 6-0 with Manly on the ropes and you take the two, give them a break to reset.imo you either take the tap at 6-0 and go for a try ,or you take both gift two points
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I wouldn't have objected to taking the tap at 6-0 given the circumstances at the time (we were on the attack and had them struggling) but there is a big difference in the pay-off for leading by 8 compared to leading by 10\. A try could have really fatally dented Manly's confidence.
 
@Yossarian said:
@1/4 chicken said:
Thats exactly what i was thinking at the time.10 nil ensures a two try advantage.So who makes the call ? The captain or the coach ? we lead 10 - 0 at the break and who knows .

Then we lose 20-22 not 18-22… Really don't think things would have changed if we were up 10-0 rather than 8-0\. But if we scored and went up 14-0 it would have been a massive lead in the context of the game.
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But Yoss we didnt score to make it 14-0.Benji could have thrown the ball over the post.how do you get a 20 -22 loss,it was 4 points difference . Yoss i wouldnt have taken the first kick , i would have stayed on the attack ,but i just ask why at 6 -0 you take the two but you dont at 8-0 a few minutes later .
 
The first option was right, but the second choice to kick for touch was wrong… This was always going to be a tough battle and all points were vital.

If we had of taken a quick tap because Manly had defenders down or offside, that is also a suitable choice. But to kick to touch was a brainfart...
 
@1/4 chicken said:
@Yossarian said:
@1/4 chicken said:
Thats exactly what i was thinking at the time.10 nil ensures a two try advantage.So who makes the call ? The captain or the coach ? we lead 10 - 0 at the break and who knows .

Then we lose 20-22 not 18-22… Really don't think things would have changed if we were up 10-0 rather than 8-0\. But if we scored and went up 14-0 it would have been a massive lead in the context of the game.

But Yoss we didnt score to make it 14-0.Benji could have thrown the ball over the post.how do you get a 20 -22 loss,it was 4 points difference . Yoss i wouldnt have taken the first kick , i would have stayed on the attack ,but i just ask why at 6 -0 you take the two but you dont at 8-0 a few minutes later .
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Well I've explained the reasoning… 6-0 means you're a try up, 8-0 means they need to score twice to get in front, 10-0 still means they need to score twice, 14-0 means they need to score thrice..

How do I get a 20-22 loss? I'm speculating if he kicks the goal and we lead 10-0... We would have ended up on 20 points rather than 18...

Yeah it didn't work, hindsight is great but if we went 14-0 you wouldn't complain. Even if he kicks it we still would have got beat.
 
Why did we kick it on the 3rd after the penalty….just askin
 
Not nessasary Yoss… 10 - 0 up and Lyon doesn't bother taking the 2 points before halftime. That's your 4 points difference?!
 
It dosent really matter at the end of the day , we lost tonight ,we will be back next week ,everything is great in hindsight .lol 10 nil and lyon dosent get the kick . different game form 10 - 0 onwards
 
@Geo. said:
Why did we kick it on the 3rd after the penalty….just askin
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That was definitely the wrong decision my good man. I wasn't concerned about taking the tap because Manly were blowing hard and the Tigers had the upper hand. Farah played his cards 2 tackles too early though. Dropping the ball twice in a row on the first tackle in the second half killed the Tigers, along with 2 missed tackles from Farah and Lawrence. That was the difference.
 
He did the same in the Semi Final vs Warriors when we had them shot out wide. This low percentage play works 1/78 times. Put it away Robbie.
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It was a see sawing close game.
Five more minutes would probably have seen a Tigers win. The players do seem to nod off when they are ahead.
Why is that?
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@Tiger Watto said:
Not nessasary Yoss… 10 - 0 up and Lyon doesn't bother taking the 2 points before halftime. That's your 4 points difference?!
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Lyon takes the kick at goal because there was no time left. Almost certainly would have taken the shot even Manly were 0-10 down.
 
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