Are you prepared to admit this JV is a failure?

[Jerry_Seinfeld]

You have a very bizarre opinion to think that I have some kind of agenda for pointing out facts.

Like you can talk.Everytime this balmain v wests thing comes up you jump to some bloody conclusion Im a wests fan disguised as a balmain fan.Despite us never meeting and me posting moderate wests tiger friendly views.You seem the real agenda player by the way you say everyone else has agendas.Takes it to know it pal.

 

[Telltails]

If you look at membership numbers it would appear many are raising the white flag

And if we don't see many improvements with the new board the memberships will plummet again

Tell me , how many businesses would accept 20% success rate ??

What issues can you seriously see the WT's fixing by Round 1 2015 ??

The fans are there but they wont sign up for memberships when a team is not performing on the field- the Roosters are a perfect example of that. Like I said I want to see improvements too and I assume anyone who wants success for the JV would also want that - and if they don't well my opinion is we don't need you. Agree, or are you among those who have raised the white flag?

 

[gallagher]

How do you measure success?

By lining up and dropping your pants I guess

It was a serious question happy…the OP wants people to admit the JV is a failure most seem to agree...Is a success finals appearances or Premierships...

I see Teams like the Sharks. Cowboys, Warriors and Titans who have never won a Comp...Souths haven't won one in 40 years Parra since the 80's ...Are these teams failures?

I think talking about being a success or not is all about the club as a whole, not just winning on the field. We are an absolute basket case off the field and only made the fianls 3 times on the field. I cant see us being a success at all yet.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

How do you measure success?

By lining up and dropping your pants I guess

It was a serious question happy…the OP wants people to admit the JV is a failure most seem to agree...Is a success finals appearances or Premierships...

I see Teams like the Sharks. Cowboys, Warriors and Titans who have never won a Comp...Souths haven't won one in 40 years Parra since the 80's ...Are these teams failures?

Its subjective. Would we be successful if we had 14 wooden spoons and 1 premiership? i'm sure some would say yes. Its a fact that we have the worst record re finals appearances since 2000, but the premiership in 05 balances the poor record out a little bit, and in some peoples eyes thats enough to consider us a success. At the same are you taking into account off field stuff? ie disharmony between the boards, in the supporter base, not being able to attract marquee players, one half of the JV broke. Do these things need to be acknowledged or are we just worried about on field results?

 

[GNR4LIFE]

You have a very bizarre opinion to think that I have some kind of agenda for pointing out facts.

Like you can talk.**Everytime this balmain v wests thing comes up you jump tosome bloody conclusion Im a wests fan disguised as a balmain fan**.Despite us never meeting and me posting moderate wests tiger friendly views.You seem the real agenda player by the way yousay everyone else has agendas.Takes it to know it pal.

Cos you are, i'm not the only who sees it either.

 

[happy_tiger]

If you look at membership numbers it would appear many are raising the white flag

And if we don't see many improvements with the new board the memberships will plummet again

Tell me , how many businesses would accept 20% success rate ??

What issues can you seriously see the WT's fixing by Round 1 2015 ??

The fans are there but they wont sign up for memberships when a team is not performing on the field- the Roosters are a perfect example of that. Like I said I want to see improvements too and I assume anyone who wants success for the JV would also want that - and if they don't well my opinion is we don't need you. Agree, or are you among those who have raised the white flag?

How do I answer that ??

Best way , if I lived in Sydney I'd be at many Tigers games no matter what and would be a Gold member no questions asked

I haven't waved the white flag , but I like many others want reasons why we shouldn't

The club waved the white flag smack bang when we had a genuine finals chance the day before the Saints game

And they keep handling it in a disgusting fashion

If I owned the club , we would of had mass changes everywhere in the last 5 weeks

Please Mr Koukash save our club

 

[Telltails]

How do you measure success?

By lining up and dropping your pants I guess

It was a serious question happy…the OP wants people to admit the JV is a failure most seem to agree...Is a success finals appearances or Premierships...

I see Teams like the Sharks. Cowboys, Warriors and Titans who have never won a Comp...Souths haven't won one in 40 years Parra since the 80's ...Are these teams failures?

Its subjective. Would we be successful if we had 14 wooden spoons and 1 premiership? i'm sure some would say yes. Its a fact that we have the worst record re finals appearances since 2000, but the premiership in 05 balances the poor record out a little bit, and in some peoples eyes thats enough to consider us a success. At the same are you taking into account off field stuff? ie disharmony between the boards, in the supporter base, not being able to attract marquee players, one half of the JV broke. Do these things need to be acknowledged or are we just worried about on field results?

If you want to include finals appearances we also were I point away from another grandfinal appearance in 2010 and in my bias view were robbed in that loss. Is that considered more worthy that a club that finished eighth three times??? - just tying to understand your first post still, on how we consider our team as a success or failure. Our off field work certainly needs attention just like Parra, Newcastle, Manly. Sharks.and the Titans… and or anyone else I have forgotten.

 

[Telltails]

If you look at membership numbers it would appear many are raising the white flag

And if we don't see many improvements with the new board the memberships will plummet again

Tell me , how many businesses would accept 20% success rate ??

What issues can you seriously see the WT's fixing by Round 1 2015 ??

The fans are there but they wont sign up for memberships when a team is not performing on the field- the Roosters are a perfect example of that. Like I said I want to see improvements too and I assume anyone who wants success for the JV would also want that - and if they don't well my opinion is we don't need you. Agree, or are you among those who have raised the white flag?

How do I answer that ??

Best way , if I lived in Sydney I'd be at many Tigers games no matter what and would be a Gold member no questions asked

I haven't waved the white flag , but I like many others want reasons why we shouldn't

The club waved the white flag smack bang when we had a genuine finals chance the day before the Saints game

And they keep handling it in a disgusting fashion

If I owned the club , we would of had mass changes everywhere in the last 5 weeks

Please Mr Koukash save our club

Some more financial support would be beneficial - I agree.

 

[TrueTiger]

How do you measure success,well people in my opinion,if Wests Tigers were handled professionally from the beginning with no West v Balmain garbage in the boardroom and the place was managed as a business to start with where you have to be accountable for finances, spending and budgets etc…we would have a solid platform to work from..most successful businesses overcome adversity with hard work,tolerance and business smarts all areas W.T as a whole are lacking in.Poor management has sent many a business down the drain,I think how you measure success is the quality of Management,players happy to be here,staff happy to work here and supporters proud to support the club as a whole... 😛ray: 😛ray:

 

[dazza65]

You know what, I don't care
I have followed the tigers and now wests tigers for 45 years - 4 GF's and 2 premierships (one each)
Whatever
I love watching em and I'll turn up again next year
Won't follow anybody else regardless of the number of premierships they have won

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[Black_n_White]

Happy, that begging for Koukash and praying for Harry to cough up cash irks me to no end… I would rather we did it tough for a long period but learned and ingrained structures that could turn us into a consistant force in all departments. We arent a club who are smart/professional enough to take full advantage from cash injections, we turn them into diamond studded platinum Band-aids.

 

[Newtown]

Happy, that begging for Koukash and praying for Harry to cough up cash irks me to no end… I would rather we did it tough for a long period but learned and ingrained structures that could turn us into a consistant force in all departments. We arent a club who are smart/professional enough to take full advantage from cash injections, we turn them into diamond studded platinum Band-aids.

If Kourash and Harry are so rich they may be able to arrange for superannuation and redundancy packages to get rid of the deadwood in the club so that we turn over a fresh, much move wiser leaf. Keep dreaming.

 

[happy_tiger]

Happy, that begging for Koukash and praying for Harry to cough up cash irks me to no end… I would rather we did it tough for a long period but learned and ingrained structures that could turn us into a consistant force in all departments. We arent a club who are smart/professional enough to take full advantage from cash injections, we turn them into diamond studded platinum Band-aids.

There is no one smart enough involved at Wests ,Balmain ,WT's or the NRL to fix this mess

I just want leadership from a sole source that doesn't have to be concerned with all the BS that surrounds us

Do that and we might just have a chance

But Wests or Balmain will never let this happen

So we are stuck with this abortion of a set up until hell freezes over unfortunately

 

[Tigerdon]

If we can somehow manage to get the front office sorted, we will be a force. We have a great brand and great juniors. Our day will come.

 

[steve-o]

I don't think we're a failure, I think we're just a really poor performing club.

As someone else alluded to, the Northern Eagles were a failure. As long as we have a team in the NRL (even if it's relocated), I won't consider Wests Tigers a failure.

3/15 finals appearances is pathetic though.

 

[Black_n_White]

Happy, if you think about it, the NRL have outsourced non-affiliated Board members for us. I doubt there are too many possible suitors out there that are reknown businessmen, that would like to tarnish their reputation subscribing to the rabble we are if they didnt think they had the credentials to turn us around. They will also understand the time constraints they have to effect change.

The whole organisation will be packing darkies. The dawn of a new age in Tigers Football. Whether its a good one is a different question.

 

[Eye_Of_Da_Tiger]

Whilst it is one against the other this place has no chance of long term success. New independent board will be the answer.

 

[Balmainboydug]

You got my vote.

Get out your abacus.

 

[azsportza]

Today I tweeted

"Wests Magpies and Balmain Tigers both should have folded in 1999"

I stand by that opinion. This isn't about results or on field performances. Wests Tigers for 15 years have tried to keep both sides of the fence happy. For the record, I've never supported Balmain or Wests. I came to Rugby League late (21 y.o) and haven't known a time were Balmain and Wests played in the major competition.

I've supported Wests Tigers for 8-9 years now. In that time, I have lost all respect for both sides of the joint venture. The fans, management and, in recent times, former players who enjoy running their mouth.

I started supporting Wests Tigers because I believed they were the local NRL team as I live in Campbelltown. Oh how wrong I have been. However, 15 years on we remain divided by postcodes. I understand it's not easy to form one united club but the efforts made IMO, have been half hearted. It continues to be Leichhardt v Campbelltown. Such pettiness. The sooner we abandon these grounds, the better. It's time to centralise at ANZ Stadium and be done with it.

I am sick to death of seeing opposing groups of the joint venture trying to bring each other down. The fan base, the politics and more importantly the joint-venture has failed with their endeavours to form an NRL club.

_(http://wp.me/p2XWQ7-bp). But it won't happen. Wests Group would never sell because after all these years, they finally have an upper hand over Balmain and I get the impression they want them to die off completely.

What does the club need to do to become one. I don't care for Wests or Balmain, I never will because I'm a Wests Tigers supporter and it's time people accepted that._

 

[happy_tiger]

Today I tweeted

"Wests Magpies and Balmain Tigers both should have folded in 1999"

I stand by that opinion. This isn't about results or on field performances. Wests Tigers for 15 years have tried to keep both sides of the fence happy. For the record, I've never supported Balmain or Wests. I came to Rugby League late (21 y.o) and haven't known a time were Balmain and Wests played in the major competition.

I've supported Wests Tigers for 8-9 years now. In that time, I have lost all respect for both sides of the joint venture. The fans, management and, in recent times, former players who enjoy running their mouth.

I started supporting Wests Tigers because I believed they were the local NRL team as I live in Campbelltown. Oh how wrong I have been. However, 15 years on we remain divided by postcodes. I understand it's not easy to form one united club but the efforts made IMO, have been half hearted. It continues to be Leichhardt v Campbelltown. Such pettiness. The sooner we abandon these grounds, the better. It's time to centralise at ANZ Stadium and be done with it.

I am sick to death of seeing opposing groups of the joint venture trying to bring each other down. The fan base, the politics and more importantly the joint-venture has failed with their endeavours to form an NRL club.

_(http://wp.me/p2XWQ7-bp). But it won't happen. Wests Group would never sell because after all these years, they finally have an upper hand over Balmain and I get the impression they want them to die off completely.

What does the club need to do to become one. I don't care for Wests or Balmain, I never will because I'm a Wests Tigers supporter and it's time people accepted that.

That is the problem with all of this One side of the JV will always have the upper hand

And if they don't they will continue their underhanded crap to try and push their own barrows until one does have the upper hand

The independent board will change little and it will only be short term if they do

They don't care one iota for the WT's and never will_