Article in the Australian - WT Salary Cap Problems

[cqtiger]

Anyway, we are all a bunch of losers so none of us are gunna quit following this mob. It's in our DNA.

As Col says "keep drinking the kool aid"

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[gallagher]

Come next year who will be playing at another club but being counted under our salary cap? Blair and Austin were only contracted for this year. The article didn't really explain how we are in trouble for 3 years.

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

Personally I'm not getting the hate for Marina.

Who is hating on her?

My advice, do what I'm doing, take a little holiday from caring too much about results

You've followed JT then…

I was trying to be constructive in that post, fair enough if you disagree but I'm pretty comfortable with my position, which is anti your view and also JT's. As for the Marina issue, I think other posters can speak for themselves and don't need me to paraphrase them, but I certainly picked up on an anti-board and anti-chair vibe.

Anti board maybe, but I don't think anti Marina
Apart from the new Sponsor, I don't think that too much new was revealed, we already have been told , no players in 2016, then possibly few in 2017\. Now that's been extended to 2018\. I don't think that too many were surprised that things may be worse than we were originally told.
My only fear is still , that I can't see anyone coming here in the next three years, and even more worrying is that why would any of the good players we already have, want to be anchored in a backwater , for three years. Our players that aspire to rep teams, will want to be playing in teams that have the sort of players who can make them look better, and a coach who can help them get there as well.

Does anyone genuinely believe that JT is going to inspire anyone of the quality that we need, to come to a club that is now officially hamstrung for the best part of three years.
The new sponsor may very well be good news, but Go, doesn't seem to think that will make much difference in that time.
Maybe this is just to soften us up to the reality of a Perth move, who knows?
It may be the only way that we are still viable after three yrs.
Then again it maybe just what the NRL want.

 

[alexaki]

I'd like to know who is responsible for this cap mess ???. Mayer kept telling us the cap is a mess and he was
Sorting it out…. Did he ? Or did he make it worse ?

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[Newtown]

And the Wests Tigers management wonder why there is falling membership from the embarrassingly small numbers they had. Importantly, Marina Go is not telling the full truth about our CAP situation. For example why have we lost highly paid players over the past two years and not replaced them and we still have at least three years to square the ledger on the CAP. Irrespective of what you think Marina, supporters are not dummies. Please tell the truth and we can at least be at peace knowing the true situation.

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

First we have a coach who is happy after every loss and never fail to find a truck load of positives, now we have a Chairperson telling us what you see is what your going to get for the next three years because the place is in such a mess and the message to the fans, is to hang in their.

The trouble is, in three years all our so called whiz kids will be off contract and also the very few NRL standard players we have like Woods and Tapau will have gone or be very tempted to leave. Now I am not sure I buy all the spin about the salary cap, but weather it is salary cap or just lack of money really makes no difference, they both will hold us down in the cellar. I still look at every other roster in the NRL and scratch my head head how in gods name we could be anywhere near our cap even allowing for some hefty backloaded contracts.

NRL fans are known for their loyalty but three more years of crap is really going to test me.

PS–new sponsor "Centre link"

And Robbie will be on the verge of retirement

That's another player that we will have to replace, with no money , interesting .

We have Cherrington and Liddle in our system.

How long do you think that Cherrington is going to stay , knowing we will probably be where we are for years, if he's as good as most think, why get belted in a bottom team when you can bet the offers will be in the mail. Managers won't take long to Hawke their players around.
After all these guys are their meal ticket.
If youn represented someone like Cherrington, wouldn't you try and protect him , to try and extend his time in the game

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

3 years to unravel seems to long a period given the length of most contracts are shorter than that, and a number of the contracts will naturally come to an end in each of the next 3 seasons.

Is this the old political trick of blaming the previous mob to buy time and pass the buck for a period of time.

Some bits do sound strange

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

Come next year who will be playing at another club but being counted under our salary cap? Blair and Austin were only contracted for this year. The article didn't really explain how we are in trouble for 3 years.

If we are really in this depth with the Cap, isn't it a bit strange that we have never been in the poo big time like Parra, something doesn't compute.

 

[hobbo]

Well, people have been screaming for more transparency and now that we have it, some don't want to accept it. Facts are facts and if some of us don't like them I can understand that they won't put their membership money on the line for this period and that's a decision we all make each year. For many members, a winning team is the main priority; others have different reasons for being a member and know that we won't be competitive for some time.

For myself, I'll stick solid, as I have done for about 55 years now and I've seen worse times (and better!). We are all in possession of the facts which can be publicly disclosed and I think the hysteria should stop now; just decide whether you want to give the club this three years…..or not.

I've so enjoyed them.pissing up my several hundred bucks each year against a wall…can't wait to donate again

I won't be renewing next year , I'd rather make a donation to a worth while cause .

 

[Knuckles]

How easy is it for current management to sit back and blame everything on previous administration?

While I have no doubt they've left us in a mess, putting their hands up and saying everything is to blame on previous admin is too convenient.

I disagree. The way the previous board operated was almost criminal. To say they were inept is being kind.

Agree willow ….. Fully support Marina and her board.
This is the clean up we had to have ... on the pathway to being a professionally run business.

 

[Furious1]

This new sponsor will be thanks to Grant Mayer ! Was signed off on months ago, but nothing announced out of respect for Meriton. Deal will be officially announced in September & will be a big deal too.

I wonder if this is the same one I heard about. Is this sponsor currently involved with another powerful club? And is he a mad Wests Tigers supporter?

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[Benjirific]

How easy is it for current management to sit back and blame everything on previous administration?

While I have no doubt they've left us in a mess, putting their hands up and saying everything is to blame on previous admin is too convenient.

I disagree. The way the previous board operated was almost criminal. To say they were inept is being kind.

Agree willow ….. Fully support Marina and her board.
This is the clean up we had to have ... on the pathway to being a professionally run business.

Can someone detail the 'criminal' way which the former board operated?

I personally think its quite disrespectful and defamatory to say this - there were a number of former WT board members from both sides of the joint venture who brought great skills and a genuine passion and emotional connection to the club. They weren't simply yes men & women for the NRL, they cared about how the club went on and off the field, and they did it for nothing in addition to their own careers elsewhere.

I found Marina's comments about the former board members completely unacceptable and disrespectful. Whether these are views held by the board at the moment or not, they are opinions that should not be aired in public - shows a complete lack of respect for those who have been in her position before.

 

[Pawsandclaws]

And then we can get Uncle Harry involved in the TPAs.

My first thought being Meriton with the Balmain side of the JV.

 

[Newtown]

Marina, what really happened to our CAP?
Did someone in Wests Tigers management pay Tim Sheens' court settlement out of CAP?
Something very drastic and mysterious occurred to our CAP and no one is even remotely telling what it actually was.

 

[TrueTiger]

How easy is it for current management to sit back and blame everything on previous administration?

While I have no doubt they've left us in a mess, putting their hands up and saying everything is to blame on previous admin is too convenient.

I disagree. The way the previous board operated was almost criminal. To say they were inept is being kind.

Agree willow ….. Fully support Marina and her board.
This is the clean up we had to have ... on the pathway to being a professionally run business.

Can someone detail the 'criminal' way which the former board operated?

I personally think its quite disrespectful and defamatory to say this - there were a number of former WT board members from both sides of the joint venture who brought great skills and a genuine passion and emotional connection to the club. They weren't simply yes men & women for the NRL, they cared about how the club went on and off the field, and they did it for nothing in addition to their own careers elsewhere.

I found Marina's comments about the former board members completely unacceptable and disrespectful. Whether these are views held by the board at the moment or not, they are opinions that should not be aired in public - shows a complete lack of respect for those who have been in her position before.

Are you part of the old board,to react in this way,Willow must have hit a nerve,what he said was a figure of speech because of their incompetence while being a dis functional board….it was common knowledge if you are a true supporter and member of this club....

 

[diedpretty]

This is BS - Go only said what most on here already knew. She gave no solid reason as to how we got in to this mess just generalisations about previous mismanagement.
She gave no reasons as to why it is going to take 3 years to fix - no mention of back loaded contracts, players being overpaid. It was the author who suggested that WT are paying players that are no longer with the club - Go made no mention of this. To those people who are heartened by what Go has said I have a slightly used harbor bridge that I would like to sell.

 

[diedpretty]

Underdog, totally agree about Marina's honesty and professionalism. I like our new board. Puts the old one to shame. They had their dirty little hands in everything they shouldn't have, and this is the result of it. How this mess was left to fester all this years is baffling.
I'm confident in time this mess will be sorted out by Go and Co.
Being patient is the hard bit for us WT fans.

I'm really scared what might happen if Balmain don't make their payment Tigermama. Leagues club elected gumby's will be back in absolute power! We can probably kiss Wests Tigers goodbye if that happens.

The sky is falling.

 

[innsaneink]

This is BS - Go only said what most on here already knew. She gave no solid reason as to how we got in to this mess just generalisations about previous mismanagement.
She gave no reasons as to why it is going to take 3 years to fix - no mention of back loaded contracts, players being overpaid. It was the author who suggested that WT are paying players that are no longer with the club - Go made no mention of this. To those people who are heartened by what Go has said I have a slightly used harbor bridge that I would like to sell.

Some people need something to cling to, anything…the truth hurts see.

 

[innsaneink]

How easy is it for current management to sit back and blame everything on previous administration?

While I have no doubt they've left us in a mess, putting their hands up and saying everything is to blame on previous admin is too convenient.

I disagree. The way the previous board operated was almost criminal. To say they were inept is being kind.

Agree willow ….. Fully support Marina and her board.
This is the clean up we had to have ... on the pathway to being a professionally run business.

Can someone detail the 'criminal' way which the former board operated?

I personally think its quite disrespectful and defamatory to say this - there were a number of former WT board members from both sides of the joint venture who brought great skills and a genuine passion and emotional connection to the club. They weren't simply yes men & women for the NRL, they cared about how the club went on and off the field, and they did it for nothing in addition to their own careers elsewhere.

I found Marina's comments about the former board members completely unacceptable and disrespectful. Whether these are views held by the board at the moment or not, they are opinions that should not be aired in public - shows a complete lack of respect for those who have been in her position before.

To be precise…"_almost_ criminal" was the term used.

Friends, family???

 

[Benjirific]

How easy is it for current management to sit back and blame everything on previous administration?

While I have no doubt they've left us in a mess, putting their hands up and saying everything is to blame on previous admin is too convenient.

I disagree. The way the previous board operated was almost criminal. To say they were inept is being kind.

Agree willow ….. Fully support Marina and her board.
This is the clean up we had to have ... on the pathway to being a professionally run business.

Can someone detail the 'criminal' way which the former board operated?

I personally think its quite disrespectful and defamatory to say this - there were a number of former WT board members from both sides of the joint venture who brought great skills and a genuine passion and emotional connection to the club. They weren't simply yes men & women for the NRL, they cared about how the club went on and off the field, and they did it for nothing in addition to their own careers elsewhere.

I found Marina's comments about the former board members completely unacceptable and disrespectful. Whether these are views held by the board at the moment or not, they are opinions that should not be aired in public - shows a complete lack of respect for those who have been in her position before.

Are you part of the old board,to react in this way,Willow must have hit a nerve,what he said was a figure of speech because of their incompetence while being a dis functional board….it was common knowledge if you are a true supporter and member of this club....

I'm not, but I know a couple of former board members from both sides of the joint venture, and I understand why we're in the situation we are at the moment, and it's not because of 'almost criminal' actions or incompetence by a board, it was because we didn't perform on the field in 2012 - plain and simple. Our problem at the moment is that despite the CURRENT board and recently former CEO undertaking a ridiculous football review last year, we've gone backwards as a club on and off the field. They need to take full responsibility for the shambles that was the back-end of last year and what Taylor has 'achieved' so far this year, and nobody else.