Article in the Australian - WT Salary Cap Problems

@stevetiger said:
@innsaneink said:
@jirskyr said:
@GNR4LIFE said:
Idk what incentive any player would have to play with us ATM, not only to sign with us, but re-sign as well. Even Mr 2041\. The club is extremely lucky that he come off contract when he did, cos there's no way he'd have stayed now. What a career killer for an Origin player. The only incentive any player has playing for us ATM is cos they are looking for a chance. Austin and Taupau are examples. Austin moved on, and the smart money would be on Taupau not sticking around either. We need him a hell of a lot more than he needs us. And to think there are people who think we aren't a bigger basket case than Parra. When Parra get themselves into such a state that they can't enter the player market for 3 yrs then maybe they might have an argument.

Nonsense, pure nonsense.

As if players leave clubs just because they don't win enough. **If you can get an opportunity _and the right money,_ you will play almost anywhere.** Our salary cap may have not been well managed, but it still amounts to a lot of money to share around, and we'll always have some players on very handsome salaries.

You are wrong.
The right money here, and at other clubs varies greatly, its why we are always paying overs

The thing is we don't have to pay overs and we should simply not do it. Fair enough do it for a single year so long as that single year isn't in the future but don't it regularly.

We can get quality players on market rates. Taupua and Ellis are both good examples. We can also keep our players on market rates. I don't believe that we are paying Tedesco as much as he could get elsewhere.

If we simply pay fair wages we will be fine.

I'm more concerned about how much we are paying Woods and Robbie if anything.

@PYMBLEPETE said:
We are not always paying overs - unless you do not believe some of our players who have stated they have taken less than market to stay a Tiger(Benji, Tedesco for example).

Exactly.

Only one of those three players youve mentioned (Ellis) would be of the quality recruit im referring to re: paying overs.
A senior, leader type - established Origin or international…this is what we need.
Taupau was a fring first grader, Teddy a local star with potential.
One player - yes - we have done it- but over a six year period - Ellis was 2009 - doesnt really fill me with confidence when I look at the majority of our recruits
 
@innsaneink said:
Only one of those three players youve mentioned (Ellis) would be of the quality recruit im referring to re: paying overs.
A senior, leader type - established Origin or international…this is what we need.
Taupau was a fring first grader, Teddy a local star with potential.
One player - yes - we have done it- but over a six year period - Ellis was 2009 - doesnt really fill me with confidence when I look at the majority of our recruits

I don't believe that we need a player like you are stating. I think Robbie, Woods and Taupau all fill that role for us.
 
@stevetiger said:
@innsaneink said:
@jirskyr said:
@GNR4LIFE said:
Idk what incentive any player would have to play with us ATM, not only to sign with us, but re-sign as well. Even Mr 2041\. The club is extremely lucky that he come off contract when he did, cos there's no way he'd have stayed now. What a career killer for an Origin player. The only incentive any player has playing for us ATM is cos they are looking for a chance. Austin and Taupau are examples. Austin moved on, and the smart money would be on Taupau not sticking around either. We need him a hell of a lot more than he needs us. And to think there are people who think we aren't a bigger basket case than Parra. When Parra get themselves into such a state that they can't enter the player market for 3 yrs then maybe they might have an argument.

Nonsense, pure nonsense.

As if players leave clubs just because they don't win enough. **If you can get an opportunity _and the right money,_ you will play almost anywhere.** Our salary cap may have not been well managed, but it still amounts to a lot of money to share around, and we'll always have some players on very handsome salaries.

You are wrong.
The right money here, and at other clubs varies greatly, its why we are always paying overs

The thing is we don't have to pay overs and we should simply not do it. Fair enough do it for a single year so long as that single year isn't in the future but don't it regularly.

We can get quality players on market rates. Taupua and Ellis are both good examples. We can also keep our players on market rates. I don't believe that we are paying Tedesco as much as he could get elsewhere.

If we simply pay fair wages we will be fine.

I'm more concerned about how much we are paying Woods and Robbie if anything.

@PYMBLEPETE said:
We are not always paying overs - unless you do not believe some of our players who have stated they have taken less than market to stay a Tiger(Benji, Tedesco for example).

Exactly.

Steve, I hope you are running our recruitment , ( when and if we ever get to do that again)
As no one else here has been able to not pay overs on a consistent basis for any good players, or sometimes even not so good players. We are and have been a backwater as far as outside players go , and the good ones tend to go elsewhere more often than not.
We've been looking for a halfback for 10 years, and I't would taken a bucket of overs to entice anyone that we would want, to come here
 
@GNR4LIFE said:
Haha you think results don't matter to players? Is that why teams like Parra and the Raiders in recent seasons have attempted to go on spending sprees with millions and ended up attracting no one?

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@James Tedesco said:
There is a bit of responsibility on me to do that as well, and I'm enjoying the challenge of doing it week to week. Even though we're not getting the results, I'm enjoying my footy.''
 
@Geo. said:
@GNR4LIFE said:
Haha you think results don't matter to players? Is that why teams like Parra and the Raiders in recent seasons have attempted to go on spending sprees with millions and ended up attracting no one?

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@James Tedesco said:
There is a bit of responsibility on me to do that as well, and I'm enjoying the challenge of doing it week to week. Even though we're not getting the results, I'm enjoying my footy.''

What do you expect him to say?
 
Thought it was very odd that Go would use such emotive language as 'freaking out' in what was basically a controlled press release.
Especially from someone that knows the media and PR inside out.
 
@GNR4LIFE said:
@Geo. said:
@GNR4LIFE said:
Haha you think results don't matter to players? Is that why teams like Parra and the Raiders in recent seasons have attempted to go on spending sprees with millions and ended up attracting no one?

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@James Tedesco said:
There is a bit of responsibility on me to do that as well, and I'm enjoying the challenge of doing it week to week. Even though we're not getting the results, I'm enjoying my footy.''

What do you expect him to say?

You don't believe him..?
 
@ricksen said:
Thought it was very odd that Go would use such emotive language as 'freaking out' in what was basically a controlled press release.
Especially from someone that knows the media and PR inside out.

I thought it was great that she spoke/speaks in plain language. A welcome change.
 

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