Ashleigh Nisbet

@maxxy86 said:
@willow said:
Another backrow option can't hurt, decent size and should only improve.

Don't know about decent size willow he's only 94kg by his profile…..but looks good pedigree tho.

I could be wrong but i think those stats were from when he was 18.
 
@king sirro said:
@maxxy86 said:
@willow said:
Another backrow option can't hurt, decent size and should only improve.

Don't know about decent size willow he's only 94kg by his profile…..but looks good pedigree tho.

I could be wrong but i think those stats were from when he was 18.

OP said he is now 100kg @ 20yo… And just on that, the reason why the Sharks are okay with letting young talent go is because they want immediate success, not future success. So if a youngster doesn't fit in their immediate plans they don't get top heavy with youth by having them hang around and develop on their watch.

Not saying that I agree with the policy but it sure is enjoying more success than our r&r system...
 
@barra said:
@king sirro said:
@maxxy86 said:
@willow said:
Another backrow option can't hurt, decent size and should only improve.

Don't know about decent size willow he's only 94kg by his profile…..but looks good pedigree tho.

I could be wrong but i think those stats were from when he was 18.

OP said he is now 100kg @ 20yo… And just on that, the reason why the Sharks are okay with letting young talent go is because they want immediate success, not future success. So if a youngster doesn't fit in their immediate plans they don't get top heavy with youth by having them hang around and develop on their watch.

Not saying that I agree with the policy but it sure is enjoying more success than our r&r system...

They just won their FIRST premiership.
 
@magpiecol said:
@barra said:
@king sirro said:
@maxxy86 said:
Don't know about decent size willow he's only 94kg by his profile…..but looks good pedigree tho.

I could be wrong but i think those stats were from when he was 18.

OP said he is now 100kg @ 20yo… And just on that, the reason why the Sharks are okay with letting young talent go is because they want immediate success, not future success. So if a youngster doesn't fit in their immediate plans they don't get top heavy with youth by having them hang around and develop on their watch.

Not saying that I agree with the policy but it sure is enjoying more success than our r&r system...

They just won their FIRST premiership.

Yes, but with how many locals in the side?.
 
@GoldXR50Leroy said:
@magpiecol said:
@barra said:
@king sirro said:
I could be wrong but i think those stats were from when he was 18.

OP said he is now 100kg @ 20yo… And just on that, the reason why the Sharks are okay with letting young talent go is because they want immediate success, not future success. So if a youngster doesn't fit in their immediate plans they don't get top heavy with youth by having them hang around and develop on their watch.

Not saying that I agree with the policy but it sure is enjoying more success than our r&r system...

They just won their FIRST premiership.

Yes, but with how many locals in the side?.

Don't know and don't care. I was talking about their system compared to ours.

You need youth coming through to sustain your club. That's all that I was saying.
 
@magpiecol said:
@GoldXR50Leroy said:
@magpiecol said:
@barra said:
OP said he is now 100kg @ 20yo… And just on that, the reason why the Sharks are okay with letting young talent go is because they want immediate success, not future success. So if a youngster doesn't fit in their immediate plans they don't get top heavy with youth by having them hang around and develop on their watch.

Not saying that I agree with the policy but it sure is enjoying more success than our r&r system...

They just won their FIRST premiership.

Yes, but with how many locals in the side?.

Don't know and don't care. I was talking about their system compared to ours.

You need youth coming through to sustain your club. That's all that I was saying.

They probably didn't care how many local juniors were in the side either! That's why I'm saying it's a different philosophy, Col.

They probably took away all emotion, any 'feel good' aspects and just looked at how to win a comp asap, and it worked. I guess they decided this was much more important than longevity, sustainability etc.

Like I said, I'm not saying I agree with it or it is the best way to go, but it did get them a comp. Although sometimes I think we should make decisions with less emotional attachment and business acumen.
 
If that is Cronulla's policy I don't think that they will be getting too many promising youngsters in the future, especially with the Under 20's competition being disbanded.
 
@Newtown said:
If that is Cronulla's policy I don't think that they will be getting too many promising youngsters in the future, especially with the Under 20's competition being disbanded.

Another Shark NYC player joined the CQ Capras

Heard him on the radio this morning
 
@barra said:
@magpiecol said:
@GoldXR50Leroy said:
@magpiecol said:
They just won their FIRST premiership.

Yes, but with how many locals in the side?.

Don't know and don't care. I was talking about their system compared to ours.

You need youth coming through to sustain your club. That's all that I was saying.

They probably didn't care how many local juniors were in the side either! That's why I'm saying it's a different philosophy, Col.

They probably took away all emotion, any 'feel good' aspects and just looked at how to win a comp asap, and it worked. I guess they decided this was much more important than longevity, sustainability etc.

Like I said, I'm not saying I agree with it or it is the best way to go, but it did get them a comp. Although sometimes I think we should make decisions with less emotional attachment and business acumen.

I agree barra.
 
@magpiecol said:
@barra said:
@magpiecol said:
@GoldXR50Leroy said:
Yes, but with how many locals in the side?.

Don't know and don't care. I was talking about their system compared to ours.

You need youth coming through to sustain your club. That's all that I was saying.

They probably didn't care how many local juniors were in the side either! That's why I'm saying it's a different philosophy, Col.

They probably took away all emotion, any 'feel good' aspects and just looked at how to win a comp asap, and it worked. I guess they decided this was much more important than longevity, sustainability etc.

Like I said, I'm not saying I agree with it or it is the best way to go, but it did get them a comp. Although sometimes I think we should make decisions with less emotional attachment and business acumen.

I agree barra.

Totally agree…you splash out on a few big, worthwhile signings and then hope that your cheap youth and veteran signings pay off. Holmes, Bird, Ennis and Townsend can't have been that expensive but the blokes they paid money for, Gallen, Barba, Graham and Maloney, delivered. Oh, and for an old team, they somehow suffered very few injuries :unamused: Canberra's great team has been shaped the same way.

Of course, it doesn't always works. It worked at Souths until they committed money to the wrong big name signings. It hasn't worked at Parra for like 10 years because they keep overvaluing players (eg. Watmough) who aren't worth the money. And when they finally got it right...well, they're Parra, so they screwed it up.
 
Warren Ryan,Bennett and Sheens were talking with the ABC about 10 years ago on what was the best form of attack, buy established players or develops juniors and they all said if your got the dollars buy the known product as developing juniors was a lottery you very seldom had any success with.

I guess to a certain extent we have had our hands tired due lack of money and cap space but the bottom line you need to have success to keep the name brand alive, no team can afford to be around the bottom for to long or they will perish.

Once you get a strong roster its a lot easier to maintain it as you are only looking for one player or so a year, its when you are down the table you have problems as you have to pay massive overs and you need multiple players
 
@Harvey said:
Seems to have some ability.

Regularly plays 80 mins. Tackles, Tackle busts, 100+m a game.

Downside is misses a few tackles & has some errors in him

https://www.nrl.com/telstrapremiership/playerstats/playerprofile/tabid/10898/clubid/104/playerid/6925/seasonid/44/default.aspx

Don't know about that. Missing 1.4 tackles a game when you're making 30+ isn't too bad at all, and less than an error a game at 20s level also isn't bad.

In comparison to someone like Esan Marsters, he missed far fewer tackles and made far fewer mistakes, although Esan scored twice as many tries as him.
 
Masters also has the Brad Fitler habbit of going quite or not chasing through during games. He needs to pick his work rate up.
 
Nisbett (who is thought of highly in the Shire), Josh A, Bailey Sironen and Ersan Marsters are a talented quartet. If you can't buy established talent you just have to be patient.
 
@Mighty Tiger said:
Masters also has the Brad Fitler habbit of going quite or not chasing through during games. He needs to pick his work rate up.

I WISH more of our players had Brad Fittler habits.
 

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