Attitude and Performance...

[TigerWest]

Addition by subtraction Brooks and Mbye. Pay them out and release. Whatever the cost.

Do we have someone to replace them with?

 

[tigeress]

I think realistically blaming the coach or one particular player or players for a dreadful performance on a huge day in memory of a playing legend,falls short on the actual problem...
The playing groups attitude while on the ground was of casual lets play this game and get it over with....signs of immaturity and no understanding of playing with heart and guts...
The second half they finally understood that to win a game you must perform to a standard that you are paid to do....some of these players have had seasons of NRL experience and should know what their job is and how to go about it....others are still learning but are playing well(Laurie,Stef etc)...
Madge is shaping this lot from the ground up,not an easy task when some cant get it right on game day...
I will say that this team apart from some have mental defficiencies when under pressure and that affects their performance...this is the core problem within this team...solve it and the team starts winning....
Who do we get to mentally prepare these guys?...

If we had a team full of passionate players such as Doueihi, Laurie, Luciano Leiluia, we'd have it made:+1:
What's up with Noffa, he has not been the same player as in previous seasons, normally I would have included him with the "passionate" players of this team:anguished:

I'm very disappointed with James Tamou- why does he only play short minutes every week, he is the leader he should be on the field leading his men:worried:
We - (the club the players) definitely have an attitude problem - and we've had it for years, what's wrong at the Wests Tigers :disappointed_relieved: what happened yesterday shouldn't have happened -if we had a team full of the passionate players as I have noted above- we would have won easily.
Passion is what is needed at the Wests Tigers:heart_eyes_cat:

Not sure about Luci being mentioned here. He looked brilliant in the trials, but since the season started he seems a step behind the pace. Another that has spent a fair bit of time walking, our whole team looks lethargic.

Are we talking about the same Leiluia, in my thinking he is the best forward we have in this squad (not that that would be difficult I suppose)- he plays long minutes too:astonished:


Yes we are. Brooks was covering for him yesterday, against the roosters the problems were caused by a lack of commitment from both him and his brother.

Maybe he is playing too many minutes, but his urgency in defence has been non-existent so far this year.

Sorry I don't see that - but as I am no expert I will give the benefit of the doubt. He just looks like he's keen as apposed to some of the others including his brother - who hopefully will improve in the near future:+1:

 

[Newtown]

Was saying to my son before the game started, on an occasion like Sunday playing a struggling side it should have been all about a fast aggressive start to get the crowd into the game and put pressure on a fragile Cowboys team. That should have been the message as they left the sheds.

Unfortunately we did the exact opposite and allowed them to build a foothold in the game which they grew from.

Its utterly bewildering.

Noffo started the rot and got the going. Not to say that Nofo wasn't aided and abetted by his next door neighbor Roberts.

 

[TYGA]

Addition by subtraction Brooks and Mbye. Pay them out and release. Whatever the cost.

Do we have someone to replace them with?

Madden and Simpkin.

 

[Newtown]

Addition by subtraction Brooks and Mbye. Pay them out and release. Whatever the cost.

Do we have someone to replace them with?

Madden and Simpkin.

 

[turkeytiger03]

... And Smarts.

Footy smarts, we just don't have much of it in this squad. We have some talent, yes but not a lot of smarts. Even some of the players that seem to be pretty intelligent individuals make some very dumb decisions! Quite a few on show yesterday.

Momo has it and he was basically let go to keep BJ and JTJ - two players who are a long way off being smart. Which was a really dumb decision in itself!

Until we can get more smarts into this team in key positions and key roles, we'll keep shooting ourselves in the foot with dumb actions.

X2

 

[happy_tiger]

I think realistically blaming the coach or one particular player or players for a dreadful performance on a huge day in memory of a playing legend,falls short on the actual problem...
The playing groups attitude while on the ground was of casual lets play this game and get it over with....signs of immaturity and no understanding of playing with heart and guts...
The second half they finally understood that to win a game you must perform to a standard that you are paid to do....some of these players have had seasons of NRL experience and should know what their job is and how to go about it....others are still learning but are playing well(Laurie,Stef etc)...
Madge is shaping this lot from the ground up,not an easy task when some cant get it right on game day...
I will say that this team apart from some have mental defficiencies when under pressure and that affects their performance...this is the core problem within this team...solve it and the team starts winning....
Who do we get to mentally prepare these guys?...

Can I put the shoe on the other foot

Can you imagine what a Tommy coached side would have happen to it if they produced a performance like that to remember Roy Masters ......

 

[Geo]

I think realistically blaming the coach or one particular player or players for a dreadful performance on a huge day in memory of a playing legend,falls short on the actual problem...
The playing groups attitude while on the ground was of casual lets play this game and get it over with....signs of immaturity and no understanding of playing with heart and guts...
The second half they finally understood that to win a game you must perform to a standard that you are paid to do....some of these players have had seasons of NRL experience and should know what their job is and how to go about it....others are still learning but are playing well(Laurie,Stef etc)...
Madge is shaping this lot from the ground up,not an easy task when some cant get it right on game day...
I will say that this team apart from some have mental defficiencies when under pressure and that affects their performance...this is the core problem within this team...solve it and the team starts winning....
Who do we get to mentally prepare these guys?...

Can I put the shoe on the other foot

Can you imagine what a Tommy coached side would have happen to it if they produced a performance like that to remember Roy Masters ......

They would still be doing laps of Chillies..

 

[cqtiger]

Attitude and performance?
I still can’t get how many people are making excuses for this lot.

I’ve posted a lot over the years about improving our defence as a priority. You won’t win many games with poor defence. How many games now have we let in more than 20 points?

Now I look at St George-Illawarra with a new coach and I see a team performing with attitude. Their defence has improved out of site in one off season. I look at our mob and shake my head.

We are going to get hammered by Souths.

I have lost faith in this club.

 

[TrueTiger]

Attitude and performance?
I still can’t get how many people are making excuses for this lot.

I’ve posted a lot over the years about improving our defence as a priority. You won’t win many games with poor defence. How many games now have we let in more than 20 points?

Now I look at St George-Illawarra with a new coach and I see a team performing with attitude. Their defence has improved out of site in one off season. I look at our mob and shake my head.

We are going to get hammered by Souths.

I have lost faith in this club.

cq,you dont appear to be the give up type...I know that the losses can leave a bitter taste in our mouths,but lets give Madge a few more games to try and get this mob on the same page...the team really needs to understand what defense and support mean.

 

[cqtiger]

Attitude and performance?
I still can’t get how many people are making excuses for this lot.

I’ve posted a lot over the years about improving our defence as a priority. You won’t win many games with poor defence. How many games now have we let in more than 20 points?

Now I look at St George-Illawarra with a new coach and I see a team performing with attitude. Their defence has improved out of site in one off season. I look at our mob and shake my head.

We are going to get hammered by Souths.

I have lost faith in this club.

cq,you dont appear to be the give up type...I know that the losses can leave a bitter taste in our mouths,but lets give Madge a few more games to try and get this mob on the same page...the team really needs to understand what defense and support mean.

TT you have to agree that we are one of the dumbest teams going around. The list of silly to outright stupid things this team do is getting longer. They don’t grasp the notion of defense and support.

 

[TrueTiger]

Attitude and performance?
I still can’t get how many people are making excuses for this lot.

I’ve posted a lot over the years about improving our defence as a priority. You won’t win many games with poor defence. How many games now have we let in more than 20 points?

Now I look at St George-Illawarra with a new coach and I see a team performing with attitude. Their defence has improved out of site in one off season. I look at our mob and shake my head.

We are going to get hammered by Souths.

I have lost faith in this club.

cq,you dont appear to be the give up type...I know that the losses can leave a bitter taste in our mouths,but lets give Madge a few more games to try and get this mob on the same page...the team really needs to understand what defense and support mean.

TT you have to agree that we are one of the dumbest teams going around. The list of silly to outright stupid things this team do is getting longer. They don’t grasp the notion of defense and support.

Yes mate and thats why I titled the thread ATTITUDE and PERFORMANCE.....
The teams poor attitude on a great legends day,gave in to a poor performance that they should really be ashamed of...

 

[Lauren]

Not to offend anyone, but could it be that some of us are just over reading it and there's just confidence issues within the team. Like others have suggested that the problem is as simple as, a winning team is a confident team.
Many experts(or whatever you'd like to call them) had us tipped as wooden spoon favourites prior to season's kick off - due to our new spine - and the fact they're not quite gelling as they'd like has them in a poor mindset hence the effort and attitude problems. (Believe someone provided stats to show our execution isn't as much as a problem).
Obviously don't mean to speak on behalf of everyone but I feel the combination of losing what were winnable games (Raiders, Eels and Cowboys) and our slow starts is what's got many of us fans in a tizz tbh. So the team are going through a similar thing.

Brandy said during the Eels V Dragons game that for a team who was feeling the pressure last year the Dragons have basically introduced a simple game plan and structures to better facilitate the player's roles, effort and motivation problems. Is this what we need to be doing? However that is done.