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[king_sirro]

Unfortunately it's what has been shown in the Nswrl research to be turning a lot of kids and parents away from League. It's one of the top three reasons
And the driving force behind the creation of a weight for age competition in Junior league in NSW, and hopefully in Qld as well,
Qld aren't as far advanced with it yet, but there is a series of carnivals being run To gauge the acceptance of the concept, in NSW. And there has already been some trials of the weigh/age system

Penrith are very much involved, and other Clubs are looking at getting their juniors to go the same way with the aim of making it throughout NSW
We have the same problem on the Gold Coast .
At times , kids sometimes have to play against others who may be up to two to three times their weight.
Kids in the younger ages are dropping out of the game because of it.
And it has to be addressed, if we want to keep those kids.
It's not the only reason, but it's one of the biggest ones.
Seeing small kids getting swatted like that is not a good look for Junior league
Especially when there is , at times , some conjecture over accurate Dates of Birth. In some cases.
Fortunately some clubs are looking at ways to consider Weights as well as age.

Nathan Cleary's experience , highlighted the problem when he said that , had it not been for that system being used where he lived in NZ , He would've given up the game when he was a young kid, because of the size of players, ( like a lot of kids)
The game can't afford to keep losing young kids.

The dangers to the smaller kids, from kids such as in the Video, have to be considered in the younger ages games.
Some of the bigger kids are more the " gentle giants"
But some of the stuff in that video, while at first glimpse seemed funny to a couple of the parents at the game , is just dangerous to the smaller kids, and should not be a part of under 8,s games.

I agree.

I didn't enjoy that video at all, not saying u didnt Goldcoast tiger, but for me it shows exactly what is wrong with junior rigby league. Kid too big with parents laughing at his aggression towards smaller kids. It is not this biys fault at all, so not blaming him. But this video sucks.

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

Just wait til he turns 16 and kids figure out how to tackle properly…

That's where most of these kids get a shock, as they've been able to have a free crack at the smaller kids ever since they started, then when they get sat on their backsides, a lot don't like it.

The other side of the problem is that they mostly haven't learnt much over their early days in the game , as their height and weight have got them through, and when that advantage is lessened or gone, they can be pretty innefective.
But in the meantime some of the smaller kids have been " bullied" out of the game.

But in all fairness those smaller kids aren't going to make it anyway.

The thing about footy is you have to learn to get hammered, esp if you are smaller. If you are really small, it's only going to get worse the further along you get.

Whereas other kids have their growth spurt and really pick up the game properly in their mid-teens.

I stopped playing when I was 14 because I was tall and skinny and getting smashed… I was fast enough, but there were kids as fast as me who were 3x as big and some even could grow beards. Even if you could catch them you could hardly bring them down without loads of support.

Fast-forward 20 years and I'm still on the skinny side, I was never going to be tackling big monsters for a career.

And most of those big kids, well many who kept playing caught up in size.

I played against this kid Luke Barrell when I was about 10, I think that was his name, played for St Pats Dundas and was big, fast, good pass. He played NSWCCC as a 15 year-old, got selected in some Australian merit side. He was THE player in our age group in Balmain, got selected in rep sides.

But I remember seeing him play a little later and he hadn't gotten any bigger - and all the other kids had. Never heard about him after that.

There nothing to say that the "smaller kids wouldn't make it anyway, "the case of Nathan Cleary. is the perfect example.
Hes come out and said that he wouldn't have kept playing if it wasn't for the weight limit when he was a little kid,
He's stayed in the game and the rest is history.
However we are talking about the younger ages , and whether they will make it or not isn't the point, it's not the NRL, although some parents act like they think it is.
At this age it's sport, and we have to come up with ways that ALL kids can compete safely( or as safely as it can be).
That Video is the greatest advertisement for Soccer and the AFL and they don't have to pay a cent for it

What is forgotten is that some of those kids may be having their first season , and are only learning the game, as well as playing against Someone That size.

Whether we like it or not, Parents are now looking at what to allow their kids to play,
And are looking at the safety side more than ever.
I think it's good that the NSWRL is looking at ways to keep our kids in the game, and hopefully better protected especially in those early years.

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

Unfortunately it's what has been shown in the Nswrl research to be turning a lot of kids and parents away from League. It's one of the top three reasons
And the driving force behind the creation of a weight for age competition in Junior league in NSW, and hopefully in Qld as well,
Qld aren't as far advanced with it yet, but there is a series of carnivals being run To gauge the acceptance of the concept, in NSW. And there has already been some trials of the weigh/age system

Penrith are very much involved, and other Clubs are looking at getting their juniors to go the same way with the aim of making it throughout NSW
We have the same problem on the Gold Coast .
At times , kids sometimes have to play against others who may be up to two to three times their weight.
Kids in the younger ages are dropping out of the game because of it.
And it has to be addressed, if we want to keep those kids.
It's not the only reason, but it's one of the biggest ones.
Seeing small kids getting swatted like that is not a good look for Junior league
Especially when there is , at times , some conjecture over accurate Dates of Birth. In some cases.
Fortunately some clubs are looking at ways to consider Weights as well as age.

Nathan Cleary's experience , highlighted the problem when he said that , had it not been for that system being used where he lived in NZ , He would've given up the game when he was a young kid, because of the size of players, ( like a lot of kids)
The game can't afford to keep losing young kids.

The dangers to the smaller kids, from kids such as in the Video, have to be considered in the younger ages games.
Some of the bigger kids are more the " gentle giants"
But some of the stuff in that video, while at first glimpse seemed funny to a couple of the parents at the game , is just dangerous to the smaller kids, and should not be a part of under 8,s games.

I agree.

I didn't enjoy that video at all, not saying u didnt Goldcoast tiger, but for me it shows exactly what is wrong with junior rigby league. Kid too big with parents laughing at his aggression towards smaller kids. It is not this biys fault at all, so not blaming him. But this video sucks.

I agree with you Sirro.

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

Unfortunately it's what has been shown in the Nswrl research to be turning a lot of kids and parents away from League. It's one of the top three reasons
And the driving force behind the creation of a weight for age competition in Junior league in NSW, and hopefully in Qld as well,
Qld aren't as far advanced with it yet, but there is a series of carnivals being run To gauge the acceptance of the concept, in NSW. And there has already been some trials of the weigh/age system

Penrith are very much involved, and other Clubs are looking at getting their juniors to go the same way with the aim of making it throughout NSW
We have the same problem on the Gold Coast .
At times , kids sometimes have to play against others who may be up to two to three times their weight.
Kids in the younger ages are dropping out of the game because of it.
And it has to be addressed, if we want to keep those kids.
It's not the only reason, but it's one of the biggest ones.
Seeing small kids getting swatted like that is not a good look for Junior league
Especially when there is , at times , some conjecture over accurate Dates of Birth. In some cases.
Fortunately some clubs are looking at ways to consider Weights as well as age.

Nathan Cleary's experience , highlighted the problem when he said that , had it not been for that system being used where he lived in NZ , He would've given up the game when he was a young kid, because of the size of players, ( like a lot of kids)
The game can't afford to keep losing young kids.

The dangers to the smaller kids, from kids such as in the Video, have to be considered in the younger ages games.
Some of the bigger kids are more the " gentle giants"
But some of the stuff in that video, while at first glimpse seemed funny to a couple of the parents at the game , is just dangerous to the smaller kids, and should not be a part of under 8,s games.

I agree.

I didn't enjoy that video at all, not saying u didnt Goldcoast tiger, but for me it shows exactly what is wrong with junior rigby league. Kid too big with parents laughing at his aggression towards smaller kids. It is not this biys fault at all, so not blaming him. But this video sucks.

I agree with you Sirro.

 

[Sabre]

"This video has been removed by the user"

 

[innsaneink]

Unfortunately it's what has been shown in the Nswrl research to be turning a lot of kids and parents away from League. It's one of the top three reasons
And the driving force behind the creation of a weight for age competition in Junior league in NSW, and hopefully in Qld as well,
Qld aren't as far advanced with it yet, but there is a series of carnivals being run To gauge the acceptance of the concept, in NSW. And there has already been some trials of the weigh/age system

Penrith are very much involved, and other Clubs are looking at getting their juniors to go the same way with the aim of making it throughout NSW
We have the same problem on the Gold Coast .
At times , kids sometimes have to play against others who may be up to two to three times their weight.
Kids in the younger ages are dropping out of the game because of it.
And it has to be addressed, if we want to keep those kids.
It's not the only reason, but it's one of the biggest ones.
Seeing small kids getting swatted like that is not a good look for Junior league
Especially when there is , at times , some conjecture over accurate Dates of Birth. In some cases.
Fortunately some clubs are looking at ways to consider Weights as well as age.

Nathan Cleary's experience , highlighted the problem when he said that , had it not been for that system being used where he lived in NZ , He would've given up the game when he was a young kid, because of the size of players, ( like a lot of kids)
The game can't afford to keep losing young kids.

The dangers to the smaller kids, from kids such as in the Video, have to be considered in the younger ages games.
Some of the bigger kids are more the " gentle giants"
But some of the stuff in that video, while at first glimpse seemed funny to a couple of the parents at the game , is just dangerous to the smaller kids, and should not be a part of under 8,s games.

I agree.

I didn't enjoy that video at all, not saying u didnt Goldcoast tiger, but for me it shows exactly what is wrong with junior rigby league. Kid too big with parents laughing at his aggression towards smaller kids. It is not this biys fault at all, so not blaming him. But this video sucks.

I agree KS…the woman hooting and hollering, whooping it up made me cringe.
I wonder if her boy ever touches the ball, or gets his jumper dirty...doubt it.

But its been happening for years, I think it would be better if w4a was introduced up to maybe u/13s?
Look at the kid on the far left, compared to the kid far right
(young Bayley Sirro with the ball btw)


 

[innsaneink]

"This video has been removed by the user"

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/giant-nine-year-old-rugby-11882466

 

[Swordy]

I have to be honest. I saw nothing wrong with this video other than a heap of kids with very poor tackling technique and effort. I saw one kid do it right and was nearly successful. Lots of others kids jogging beside doing nothing.

No different when i was a kid and it was age group only, no weight.

There used to be a fat kid in every team that was on the burst 10m out and would score. Very quickly you learn not to stand infront of the fat kid.

What ever happened to "the bigger they are, the harder they fall."?

If the kids dont want to have a genuine go, they can play soccer. Im not trying to sound like a knob, but seriously this has been happening since 1920\. Its all part of growing up, learning, etc. Stop wrapping the kids in cotton wool and let them get the occasional smack in the chops.

 

[Bones]

I have to be honest. I saw nothing wrong with this video other than a heap of kids with very poor tackling technique and effort. I saw one kid do it right and was nearly successful. Lots of others kids jogging beside doing nothing.

No different when i was a kid and it was age group only, no weight.

There used to be a fat kid in every team that was on the burst 10m out and would score. Very quickly you learn not to stand infront of the fat kid.

What ever happened to "the bigger they are, the harder they fall."?

If the kids dont want to have a genuine go, they can play soccer. Im not trying to sound like a knob, but seriously this has been happening since 1920\. Its all part of growing up, learning, etc. Stop wrapping the kids in cotton wool and let them get the occasional smack in the chops.

I have to agree. And thats coming from a guy that played to the age of 20 and weighed 65kg.

As i said already you put them in weight divisions and there will still be players who are hopelessly out classed. Thats life. Not everyone is good at everything. Better to learn to deal with.

 

[Byron_Bay_Fan]

this video is very soon to be shown on SBS news, maybe channel 3

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

I have to be honest. I saw nothing wrong with this video other than a heap of kids with very poor tackling technique and effort. I saw one kid do it right and was nearly successful. Lots of others kids jogging beside doing nothing.

No different when i was a kid and it was age group only, no weight.

There used to be a fat kid in every team that was on the burst 10m out and would score. Very quickly you learn not to stand infront of the fat kid.

What ever happened to "the bigger they are, the harder they fall."?

If the kids dont want to have a genuine go, they can play soccer. Im not trying to sound like a knob, but seriously this has been happening since 1920\. Its all part of growing up, learning, etc. Stop wrapping the kids in cotton wool and let them get the occasional smack in the chops.

I have to agree. And thats coming from a guy that played to the age of 20 and weighed 65kg.

As i said already you put them in weight divisions and there will still be players who are hopelessly out classed. Thats life. Not everyone is good at everything. Better to learn to deal
with.[/quo

Not sure how long ago you played ,but there was nowhere the problem when I played
I went through the lower grade reps , Flegg,presidents cup etc.and was fortuneate enough to have Bob Orielly in those teams with me, he was huge for his age right through.
And that was at Rep standard.
There was not a lot of juniors his size at that time.
Junior teams didn't have the number of big Polynesian kids that are there now,
I've had some contact with one of the people who are trying to do something about the problem, as our club in Qld doesn't even think it's a problem.
And from the info that I received , and from what's happening on the Gold Coast, that it's becoming a problems thought the Game.
It's not the big kids fault. But now there is full teams in some cases of really big kids,
I would gaurantee that in those days( early 60's )
The were very few of those teams with kids in the lower ages that were all of exceptional size and weight , now it's becoming the norm,

Ther is now a real effort to have something done about it, and it has to happen
I think when people see what is on the planning stage that they will see that it isn't like the old weight teams, and it will be a lot fairer Than it is now.

 

[innsaneink]

I have to be honest. I saw nothing wrong with this video other than a heap of kids with very poor tackling technique and effort. I saw one kid do it right and was nearly successful. Lots of others kids jogging beside doing nothing.

No different when i was a kid and it was age group only, no weight.

There used to be a fat kid in every team that was on the burst 10m out and would score. Very quickly you learn not to stand infront of the fat kid.

What ever happened to "the bigger they are, the harder they fall."?

If the kids dont want to have a genuine go, <big>they can play soccer</big>. Im not trying to sound like a knob, but seriously this has been happening since 1920\. Its all part of growing up, learning, etc. Stop wrapping the kids in cotton wool and let them get the occasional smack in the chops.

Unfortunately, thats what theyre doing
Playing soccer….and AFL, and touch footy & oztag

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

I have to be honest. I saw nothing wrong with this video other than a heap of kids with very poor tackling technique and effort. I saw one kid do it right and was nearly successful. Lots of others kids jogging beside doing nothing.

No different when i was a kid and it was age group only, no weight.

There used to be a fat kid in every team that was on the burst 10m out and would score. Very quickly you learn not to stand infront of the fat kid.

What ever happened to "the bigger they are, the harder they fall."?

If the kids dont want to have a genuine go, <big>they can play soccer</big>. Im not trying to sound like a knob, but seriously this has been happening since 1920\. Its all part of growing up, learning, etc. Stop wrapping the kids in cotton wool and let them get the occasional smack in the chops.

Unfortunately, thats what theyre doing
Playing soccer….and AFL, and touch footy & oztag

Sorry, but this hasn't been happening since 1920 at all.

A lot of The players are a lot bigger now , than even 15 to 20 years ago.
And as parents now determine what a lot of kids dofor sport,
We need some sensible answers,
Not the "lets stop wrapping them in cotton wool" reactions

I played in the day when a spear tackle was to be congratulated, and it was….Then...

A mate was playing first grade for Wests then, Rod Smith.
And after a game against Manly , he put Bob Fulton completely Vertical in the best executed Spear tackle that I've ever seen,then drove him into the Lidcombe grass..
The following day there was a half page photo of the tackle, with everyone saying what a great tackle it was. Nothing but praise for it,

Things change,
Spear tackles have gone ,the game has been safer and the junior game is likely to be changing to make sure that ALL kids will be able to enjoy a safer game.
There'll still be open divisions for those players who want to play there. But , we may stop losing young kids if it's made a bit fairer for them

 

[Swordy]

I have to be honest. I saw nothing wrong with this video other than a heap of kids with very poor tackling technique and effort. I saw one kid do it right and was nearly successful. Lots of others kids jogging beside doing nothing.

No different when i was a kid and it was age group only, no weight.

There used to be a fat kid in every team that was on the burst 10m out and would score. Very quickly you learn not to stand infront of the fat kid.

What ever happened to "the bigger they are, the harder they fall."?

If the kids dont want to have a genuine go, <big>they can play soccer</big>. Im not trying to sound like a knob, but seriously this has been happening since 1920\. Its all part of growing up, learning, etc. Stop wrapping the kids in cotton wool and let them get the occasional smack in the chops.

Unfortunately, thats what theyre doing
Playing soccer….and AFL, and touch footy & oztag

And there's nothing wrong with that Ink. Not every kid can play league.

Like me, im far from agile with the skill and patience needed for soccer, and so the reality is it wasnt for me. I was never a skinny kid with lots of stamina so i didnt play AFL.

The game si the game. They are all different games to suit different skill sets.

 

[innsaneink]

Why not make it easier for MORE kids to be able to begin rugby league and play and learn the game on a somewhat level playing field until they begin to get a bit more serious about it say from 14 yo and on…thats all im saying

Weve introduced mini and mod....changed the game drastically to suit age groups
This is possible

Nothings wrong with soccer, but when a kid WANTs to play league but cant because its too difficult for him at the beggining and they look for second best....then theres something wrong with that

Soccer and AFL would be loving this story