Benji Marshall re-watched all his 2018 games before deciding his future with Tigers

[GNR4LIFE]

If Farah is playing the same role with Liddle that he played with Cook, it makes no sense for him to be starting.

Liddle can't cope at the moment. Who is your starting option if is not Farah?

If Liddle can’t cope, it’s getting to close to where we should start asking why we are persisting with him.

 

[Fade_To_Black]

Thats all Benji and Robbie care about.
Get to 300 games even if it means we suck for another year.

Another year of fluff pieces whilst we languish bottom of the ladder. Excellent.

More than happy to let Benji play the 11 games required to reach 300 games- a massive achievement considering all his injuries early on. He is our clubs' most iconic player since our inception without a shadow of a doubt. Our team will in all likelihood suck next year regardless of whether Benji is playing or not, there aren't any worldbeaters off contract at the moment to fill his position as our 6 (here's hoping Reynolds can last more than 10 minutes every 2 months of game time in 2019 anyhow). Give a club legend a milestone that he truly deserves I reckon.

 

[TYGA]

Benin is odds on to get 11 games with Reynolds even if fit He will be rested often.

Robbie needs 18 which, he will get with Liddles track record and they both maybe the bench utility at times this year.

It’s a great achievement for the club to create some history and at worst they are capable bench players.

 

[Fade_To_Black]

If Farah is playing the same role with Liddle that he played with Cook, it makes no sense for him to be starting.

Liddle can't cope at the moment. Who is your starting option if is not Farah?

If Liddle can’t cope, it’s getting to close to where we should start asking why we are persisting with him.

If 2019 is another repeat of the last 2 years then it is time to move on. Treading water on the most important position on the field is suicide in terms of success as a club. Farah and Liddle's wages combined should buy our club a pretty decent 9 in 2020 if Liddle can't spend more time on the park next year.

 

[TIGERPOWER]

If Farah is playing the same role with Liddle that he played with Cook, it makes no sense for him to be starting.

Liddle can't cope at the moment. Who is your starting option if is not Farah?

If Liddle can’t cope, it’s getting to close to where we should start asking why we are persisting with him.

If 2019 is another repeat of the last 2 years then it is time to move on. Treading water on the most important position on the field is suicide in terms of success as a club. Farah and Liddle's wages combined should buy our club a pretty decent 9 in 2020 if Liddle can't spend more time on the park next year.

I’m a big liddle fan but agree this year is make or break for him. If he can’t cut it this year then it’s time to move on. I hope he puts on some muscle in the off season, he just looks too small to handle the rigours of tackling in the middle.

 

[happy_tiger]

Well said!

We can’t expect loyalty if we don’t give loyalty. Yes, Benji tired as the season progressed but did his share throughout and was instrumental in our great start. Farah made a big difference to our attack in my opinion.

Loyalty is great but next year we're giving them charity. Both of them have always been bad judges of their own form. Someone should have been smart enough to stop them going around again.

Exactly , not as if Benji played for nothing while he was here , he earned a very good living and has really delivered little since 2005

Farah's form warranted another season , but I'll bet we paid more than we should have for him , not Robbie's fault

Benji won the Golden Boot for best player in the world in 2010\. That is hardly "delivering little".
Who knows what Robbie is getting paid for 2019? It wouldn't be huge money. Besides, what is the option? Go all-in on Liddle only for him to break apart? Elijah at 9 again?… No thanks. Reynolds at 9?...he can't even get on the park as a 6 as of yet. Robbie will be worth whatever we paid him at the very least.

Learning to read would be nice , I said he had 4 good seasons , 8 ordinary ones …...

 

[Fade_To_Black]

We CLEARLY went better when Robbie got back.

And without Benji we wouldn't have had a six for most of the year.

To saying they are doing it for the numbers is just ludicrous,

Both these blokes bleed for us how about a little respect back to them

Well said!

We can’t expect loyalty if we don’t give loyalty. Yes, Benji tired as the season progressed but did his share throughout and was instrumental in our great start. Farah made a big difference to our attack in my opinion.

Loyalty is great but next year we're giving them charity. Both of them have always been bad judges of their own form. Someone should have been smart enough to stop them going around again.

Exactly , not as if Benji played for nothing while he was here , he earned a very good living and has really delivered little since 2005

Farah's form warranted another season , but I'll bet we paid more than we should have for him , not Robbie's fault

I ought ta get me some better literary learnin's then gosh darn it coz i can't for the life of me see anything in that post about "4 good seasons/8 ordinary ones".
Do toads taste like chicken?

 

[happy_tiger]

Well said!

We can’t expect loyalty if we don’t give loyalty. Yes, Benji tired as the season progressed but did his share throughout and was instrumental in our great start. Farah made a big difference to our attack in my opinion.

Loyalty is great but next year we're giving them charity. Both of them have always been bad judges of their own form. Someone should have been smart enough to stop them going around again.

Exactly , not as if Benji played for nothing while he was here , he earned a very good living and has really delivered little since 2005

Farah's form warranted another season , but I'll bet we paid more than we should have for him , not Robbie's fault

I ought ta get me some better literary learnin's then gosh darn it coz i can't for the life of me see anything in that post about "4 good seasons/8 ordinary ones".
Do toads taste like chicken?

Maybe read all quotes in a thread before making a judgement ….... :brick: :brick: :brick:

 

[maxxy86]

I’m happy enough with both being here in ‘19…..benji to be used sparingly and maybe get to 300\. Farah on the other hand should make it discounting injury.

 

[Spud_Murphy]

If Farah is playing the same role with Liddle that he played with Cook, it makes no sense for him to be starting.

Liddle can't cope at the moment. Who is your starting option if is not Farah?

If Liddle can’t cope, it’s getting to close to where we should start asking why we are persisting with him.

Exactly my point on another thread but got shot down in flames for it. Liddle is another Manaia Cherrington imo.

 

[TheDaBoss]

O K taking another point of view here so
I suppose benji is a idol to a lot of young kids, so him playing another year may be a good thing

 

[kiwitiger]

Benji was good to start the year. I think he was probably not expecting to play as much as he did with Grub basically becoming a permanent rehab resident all year. The wear and tear took a toll on him as the year rolled on.

Farah, well despite how I felt about him going and coming back I can't ignore that we are a better side with him in it, and he would be one of the first chosen next season.

Agreed. Problem is since 2012 we have found ourselves in the same position. After all the pain of removing them from the club and now bringing them back we find ourselves in the position of: if they or one of them plays well we have a chance! What a waste of 5 years! Nothing on the field has really changed

 

[gallagher]

Benji was good to start the year. I think he was probably not expecting to play as much as he did with Grub basically becoming a permanent rehab resident all year. The wear and tear took a toll on him as the year rolled on.

Farah, well despite how I felt about him going and coming back I can't ignore that we are a better side with him in it, and he would be one of the first chosen next season.

Agreed. Problem is since 2012 we have found ourselves in the same position. After all the pain of removing them from the club and now bringing them back we find ourselves in the position of: if they or one of them plays well we have a chance! What a waste of 5 years! Nothing on the field has really changed

Exactly right!!!! The squad isn't improving at all. I don't see how people are blind to this.

 

[Seantice]

:question:
If he did watch all his games he should of retired. Apart from the first 4-6 games he was pretty ordinary. Defence and effort wasn't too bad but kicking and running was very ordinary. Thank God Brooks improved.

 

[balmain boy]

You'd hate to be our new coach only to find out precious squad positions are being wasted on these old guys. Benji struggled for most of the season after a good start. If he actually watched the videos he surely would have seen this

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Benji was good to start the year. I think he was probably not expecting to play as much as he did with Grub basically becoming a permanent rehab resident all year. The wear and tear took a toll on him as the year rolled on.

Farah, well despite how I felt about him going and coming back I can't ignore that we are a better side with him in it, and he would be one of the first chosen next season.

Agreed. Problem is since 2012 we have found ourselves in the same position. After all the pain of removing them from the club and now bringing them back we find ourselves in the position of: if they or one of them plays well we have a chance! What a waste of 5 years! Nothing on the field has really changed

Exactly right!!!! The squad isn't improving at all. I don't see how people are blind to this.

I copped Benji as a stop gap for this year, which turned out to be fortuitous to start off with, and Farah was a better option than anything we had on the books.

If Grub manages to take five steps without tearing something next year I would expect we will see little of Benji, especially with the stark possibility of a new coach coming in with other ideas.

The signing and extension of Farah suggests that the club still sees the future with Liddle, if it wasn't they would have gone all out on an available hooker. This, as both you and Kiwitiger have alluded to, is that nothing has changed on field and we're still waiting on promising juniors to develop three or four seasons into grade. Might have paid off with Brooks, but more often than not we just seem to be a revolving door of kids who couldn't kick on, and the ones that do wind up leaving.

 

[colmcd]

Benji was good to start the year. I think he was probably not expecting to play as much as he did with Grub basically becoming a permanent rehab resident all year. The wear and tear took a toll on him as the year rolled on.

Farah, well despite how I felt about him going and coming back I can't ignore that we are a better side with him in it, and he would be one of the first chosen next season.

Agreed. Problem is since 2012 we have found ourselves in the same position. After all the pain of removing them from the club and now bringing them back we find ourselves in the position of: if they or one of them plays well we have a chance! What a waste of 5 years! Nothing on the field has really changed

Exactly right!!!! The squad isn't improving at all. I don't see how people are blind to this.

I copped Benji as a stop gap for this year, which turned out to be fortuitous to start off with, and Farah was a better option than anything we had on the books.

If Grub manages to take five steps without tearing something next year I would expect we will see little of Benji, especially with the stark possibility of a new coach coming in with other ideas.

The signing and extension of Farah suggests that the club still sees the future with Liddle, if it wasn't they would have gone all out on an available hooker. This, as both you and Kiwitiger have alluded to, is that nothing has changed on field and we're still waiting on promising juniors to develop three or four seasons into grade. Might have paid off with Brooks, but more often than not we just seem to be a revolving door of kids who couldn't kick on, and the ones that do wind up leaving.

We have not wasted 5 years. Anyone who saw what Taylor left us with would realise that we were driving in reverse. Killing our culture and our team spirit. We wasted 4 years and then took on a real long term coach.
But still, I don't see a long term coaching plan!
We need now to look at a long term coach. If Cleary is gone (and I think he may well be still around next year with full effort.) then we need to look at Bennett, possibly followed by McGuire. No other unproven coaches unless they are assistants. Have a nice board approved structure on where our playing weaknesses are and how we will develop them:
Forwards… how do we stop loosing at the front.
2nd row, Do we look for speed or oomph?
Halves, we now have certainty. Brooks + Reynolds is a good combo. Marshall can now be the reserve he wanted to be.
Back row, We have certainty around 1 center, 1 winger and sadly around our fullback
:frowning: ... WHY WT why...

I think we are getting there, but I am worried that our front runs out of petrol quickly and our second row is very weak. Hopefully McQueen will be medically retired soon.

The coming back of Marshall and Farah is exactly what we needed. If they did not return, who would we get? A leftover at 5/8, with a hooking option of Elijah Taylor or worse. They covered gaps exactly when we needed them. Farah is an upgrade on almost every hooker we have had, Marshall is a great reserve/off the bench player. Think of Marshall as the spare tire you go 80 on, which is exactly where he is at his career now.

 

[Harvey]

That spare tyre is a stop gap measure. If needed on a freeway, it is likely to fail and leave you going nowhere.

Our factory wheel seems to be constantly in the mechanics leaving us needing a spare