Benji Marshall.....

[system]

Benji also needs support.Apart from Lawrence who was cleaned up yesterday the other are not ENTHUSIASTIC enough to run in support.

I understand that POV but honestly how many times this season have we seen him run across field and ignore every single guy running a hard angle to at the last minute hand it off to a centre or winger to get smashed??

Honestly it wouldn't suprise me if people just stopped doing it because he never passes it to the hard runner.

The worst thing about the attempted flick pass was that Latu and Brown had both run the perfect inside line so that at worst we had a two on one against Wesser and he still goes for the grand stand play. He plays dumb football and our coach is unwilling or unable to get him top have an element of consistency to his game. It is totally unacceptable that a top paid star is still repeating the errors he made in his debut seasons

 

[Peaches]

MASSIVE difference between a flick pass to Pat Richards…............and a flick pass to Mitch Brown.

No disrespect to Mitch, but Pat is 100 times better all round. Mitch was never going to catch that.

Benji needs to mature fast. He needs to realise what is / what is not a risk worthy play.

That flick pass to Brown went a fair way and low. The one to Richards went a couple of meters. What was wrong with another kick?

 

[PYMBLEPETE]

Benji also needs support.Apart from Lawrence who was cleaned up yesterday the other are not ENTHUSIASTIC enough to run in support.

I understand that POV but honestly how many times this season have we seen him run across field and ignore every single guy running a hard angle to at the last minute hand it off to a centre or winger to get smashed??

Honestly it wouldn't suprise me if people just stopped doing it because he never passes it to the hard runner.

The worst thing about the attempted flick pass was that Latu and Brown had both run the perfect inside line so that at worst we had a two on one against Wesser and he still goes for the grand stand play. He plays dumb football and our coach is unwilling or unable to get him top have an element of consistency to his game. It is totally unacceptable that a top paid star is still repeating the errors he made in his debut seasons

Smeg, I agree and would go further. I reckon he is making more errors than in his debut season.

 

[alexaki]

Benji could have sealed the game a number of times. He is arrogant at times and it costs us - BIG TIME

Seriously, if you think Benji COST us the game, Did you see our number 5 play????

Give me a beak!!!

Touche

 

[Vicious]

I think anyone pointing ANY blame at Benji is way off the mark. Our forward pack got smashed and out enthused by an opposing pack which was half over aged park footballers filling in. When does Benji ever get the ball on the back of a good platform when our forwards are running straight and hard and penetrating the defence, the answer is very rarely if ever. Put Benji 5/8 in a side like the Dragons who have a good aggressive forward pack who put them on the front foot and he`s be man of the mtach every week.

I`m a fan of Rob Lui but he simply hasn`t adjusted to playing halfback, not in our side anyway.

 

[T-REXX]

when Benji makes these amzing passes or plays people love him, the commentators love him, everyone loves him. But as soon as he does it and it doesnt stick people are quick to jump on him.. You just had to listen to the tossers commentating the game. How many times they said "DID THAT NEED TO BE PASSSED" or something along those lines. Its the way BENJI plays.. so people need to take it as it is.. not all things are going to stick…

Benji is Benji...... very simple.. dont try and change something cause it isnt always 100% perfect

 

[Chris]

Couldnt have said it better myself Troy.

 

[Mulga_Bill]

The only thing Benji needs is a decent number 7 that can organise and and give him room. Lui just goes missing too much during the game. Inexperience? maybe, it is the number on reason we can't close out games and can't match it with the big boys like the Dragons. On the flip side I have confidence once it clicks there is no stoping us. Time is running out fast though.

Spot on !!!

 

[system]

Does Lui go missing or is he left out of the play?

I use to think the former but watching Saturday nights game again it became clear it was Benji & Robbie doing what they wanted when they wanted and Lui was rarely in the loop. Several times he had his side structured and the ball always hit Benji be it on a narrow blind or from the middle of the field.

 

[TIGER]

If i was his coach i'd hook him and if i was his team mate i'd give him the biggest spray every time he attempted one of his highlight reel flick/no look bullshit passes.

 

[hybrid_tiger]

when Benji makes these amzing passes or plays people love him, the commentators love him, everyone loves him. But as soon as he does it and it doesnt stick people are quick to jump on him.. You just had to listen to the tossers commentating the game. How many times they said "DID THAT NEED TO BE PASSSED" or something along those lines. Its the way BENJI plays.. so people need to take it as it is.. not all things are going to stick…

Benji is Benji...... very simple.. dont try and change something cause it isnt always 100% perfect

Rubbish. It is not good enough.

Fundamental, basic errors are not acceptable if they are repeated over and over again.

Nobody wants Benji to change his style, but he pushes things too far. Perfect example was the chip and regather - it was the third tackle and that pass DID NOT need to be thrown. It is unacceptable.

 

[T-REXX]

yet if it worked he would have been a legend..gimme a break..i didnt see u whinging a few weeks back when he kicked on the 2nd tackle and we scored. i dont see u whinging when he robbie kicked and chased on the 3rd a few weeks ago and we scored..
problem with people like your self is ur a sore looser,
look at this forum with people bagging the whole team.. amazing what happens when we loose.. even the people who useally play pretty well are getting bagged.

Beau, had a shocker… now people are having a go at him for doing that and comedy acts... yet nothing like this has been said during the winning periods.
Lote, all of a sudden slow and lazy.
Sheens, we loose and OF COURSE another thread comes up about him being sacked and the same people jump on the bandwagon... where were they in the last 8 weeks when we only lost two games.
LUI, well being half back, these supporters are always going to blow up arnt they.

People look for a reason to ridicule a side speically in low points..
last year we didnt make semis so people blew up
this year we WILL MAKE Semis, and yet people still blow up
Last year and year before we played nice attacking moves yet still didnt make semis.
This year since we arnt winning in attack but winning ugly you will whinge..

So in reality the only thing to keep the small minded supporters happy is if we had a team like ST GEORGE who are at the top of the table. being 2nd or 3rd or 4th JUST ISNT GOOD ENOUGH..

Pull ur heads in

 

[Geo]

Benji is developing nicely…

Without him we are stuffed..........simple

 

[T-REXX]

Geo, you need to get a FACEBOOK LIKE button here..

But "LIKE" your post.

 

[Tigersmurf]

Why doesn't he try and step anymore? Doesn't he think he can stand anyone up?

I'd rather a step - at least if it doesn't come off then he only gets tackled.

 

[Tigersmurf]

After reading T-REXX's post I thought of something….

We tried to be flamboyant again on the weekend rather than winning ugly, look where that got us - straight back to the teams we were in years gone by.

Lets play more reserved and "boring", at least then we are winning. Look at Saints, they are great at boring!

 

[hybrid_tiger]

yet if it worked he would have been a legend..gimme a break..i didnt see u whinging a few weeks back when he kicked on the 2nd tackle and we scored. i dont see u whinging when he robbie kicked and chased on the 3rd a few weeks ago and we scored..

It works once in every 10 attempts = NOT GOOD ENOUGH. Just like many fundamental errors this team makes, they work at a very poor success rate yet they are still persisted with because of Sheens' stubbornness.

I love Marshall as much as anyone, would not swap him for another player in the game, but these kinds of mistakes are unacceptable if they are repeated over and over again, especially for someone who is on the $$$ he is. I do agree that we have nothing without Benji. We are screaming out for a 7 and a decent bench, but Sheens will provide us with neither.

The rest of your post is hardly worth responding to as it is nothing but pure dribble.

I have said since 2007 that I think we needed a fresh change in the coaching ranks, and I have not changed my mind since, win or lose. So most of your points should not be directed at me champ.

As for me being a sore loser, I am and I make no apologies for that. I hate losing and this was a game that we never should have lost. The problem is it is not a one off, it was a disgusting capitulation that we've already seen before (2007 against Newcastle spring to mind) and is a result of the same tired old ideas and methods being repeated.

 

[Tigersmurf]

Great post hybrid!

I wish my posts were as good as yours!!

 

[boonboon]

Great post are you kidding me and your comment about seeing such capitualtion befor and happening time and time again and you came up with an example at least 3 years old - I mean yeah just happens all the time

We lost because Beau had the worst game of his life and Lote wasnt far behind that is what happens - McKinnon plays against souths we win by 30\. Despite all the extreme reactions we dominated all the stats just had 2 of our back 3 have incredibly bad games , the others 14 were really good , 1 in Lui was average in defence but Lote didnt help there

 

[tiger05]

We lost because Beau had the worst game of his life and Lote wasnt far behind

This is why we lost. And even though they were terrible if Brown takes that grubber or if the refs actually gave a penalty away when it is deserved we win.