Big name player in trouble

[Fade_To_Black]

I listened to him being interviewed on nrl360 tonight and he was contrite and sounded to be genuine in admitting to and owning the stuff up as recognising how he can't handle alcohol.

I nearly reached for the vomit bag when he said " I have an addictive personality "…. that throwaway line is the most used copout when idiots try to justify their actions after getting caught out. Andrew Johns, Carney, Pearce have all used it, it would be much more realistic and noble to just say " I am a goose- alcohol, drugs etc don't create that,they do however exacerbate it". That would gain more credibility IMO.
Pearce comes across as having the personality of a teenager, very immature. Probably a direct result of being brought up as a golden child you would think.

 

[MacDougall]

I have an addictive personality and it wasn't until I was … well now at 29 that I have really learned to control it. I don't judge these guys at all. They are kids with too much money and justifiably large egos. It's hard to put yourself in their shoes, but every fat idiot with access to a TV thinks they'd be any different. Maybe you would, I'd back that you wouldn't.

 

[Telltails]

I have an addictive personality and it wasn't until I was … well now at 29 that I have really learned to control it. I don't judge these guys at all. They are kids with too much money and justifiably large egos. It's hard to put yourself in their shoes, but every fat idiot with access to a TV thinks they'd be any different. Maybe you would, I'd back that you wouldn't.

Agree Macdougall - and these current players that are judged the most harshly because of the social media age we live in, are probably far better 'behaved" generally than NRL players past, its just that we were not privy to their private lives as we are today.
He has been publicly embarrassed and career in jeopardy because an opportunist decided to film him in a drunken state while socialising in a house that he was invited into - and some think that is ok. Makes anyone fair game and regardless of whether you have a profile or not, I am yet to see anyone who dosnt act like a fool in some way when they are drunk.

 

[supercoach]

I have an addictive personality and it wasn't until I was … well now at 29 that I have really learned to control it. I don't judge these guys at all. They are kids with too much money and justifiably large egos. It's hard to put yourself in their shoes, but every fat idiot with access to a TV thinks they'd be any different. Maybe you would, I'd back that you wouldn't.

Agree Macdougall - and these current players that are judged the most harshly because of the social media age we live in, are probably far better 'behaved" generally than NRL players past, its just that we were not privy to their private lives as we are today.
He has been publicly embarrassed and career in jeopardy because an opportunist decided to film him in a drunken state while socialising in a house that he was invited into - and some think that is ok. Makes anyone fair game and regardless of whether you have a profile or not, I am yet to see anyone who dosnt act like a fool in some way when they are drunk.

Undoubtably the players of yesterday got away with heaps more because the main stream media and social media were not in their face 24/7\. Also the public saw them as footballers and nothing more,

In saying that everyone has to adjust to the world they live in and footballers are no exception. Back in the early 70 blokes would tell blue jokes at work in mixed company even read girly magazines but that is now taboo and rightly so, we have moved on with society. So these guys are all willing to use the media in all its forms to generate interest especially around contract time ,can not than turn around and call it unfair when the media uses a players popularity to generate ratings when the player hands them a front page story on a plate by getting drunk rotten and doing a few stupid things.

Live by the sword die by the sword

 

[Telltails]

I have an addictive personality and it wasn't until I was … well now at 29 that I have really learned to control it. I don't judge these guys at all. They are kids with too much money and justifiably large egos. It's hard to put yourself in their shoes, but every fat idiot with access to a TV thinks they'd be any different. Maybe you would, I'd back that you wouldn't.

Agree Macdougall - and these current players that are judged the most harshly because of the social media age we live in, are probably far better 'behaved" generally than NRL players past, its just that we were not privy to their private lives as we are today.
He has been publicly embarrassed and career in jeopardy because an opportunist decided to film him in a drunken state while socialising in a house that he was invited into - and some think that is ok. Makes anyone fair game and regardless of whether you have a profile or not, I am yet to see anyone who dosnt act like a fool in some way when they are drunk.

Undoubtably the players of yesterday got away with heaps more because the main stream media and social media were not in their face 24/7\. Also the public saw them as footballers and nothing more,

In saying that everyone has to adjust to the world they live in and footballers are no exception. Back in the early 70 blokes would tell blue jokes at work in mixed company even read girly magazines but that is now taboo and rightly so, we have moved on with society. So these guys are all willing to use the media in all its forms to generate interest especially around contract time ,can not than turn around and call it unfair when the media uses a players popularity to generate ratings when the player hands them a front page story on a plate by getting drunk rotten and doing a few stupid things.

Live by the sword die by the sword

Wonder what the rest of Australia was doing on Australia day - so now getting drunk on Australia Day could potentially ruin a career and we are ok with that. Have to agree to disagree.

 

[Byron_Bay_Fan]

Phil Gould in todays Herald says ENOUGH IS ENOUGH AND TO LET HIM PLAY

Plenty of people have had their say on the punishment they believe Mitchell Pearce should receive for his antics on Australia Day. Talk of life bans, or even a six to 12-month suspension from the game are totally over the top and I hope cool heads prevail when the NRL sits down to consider a penalty.
My fear is that the NRL will not be looking for a punishment to fit the offence, but rather a sanction they think will be accepted by the media. Let's put things into perspective, Mitchell Pearce had way too much to drink and acted the fool at a private residence among a small gathering of people in the early hours of the morning. He woke to find he had been exposed to the world after being secretly recorded and the images were displayed repeatedly across all forms of media.
He was immediately criticised, vilified, humiliated, shamed, degraded and dishonoured. From there he left the country away from family and friends to spend 28 days in an overseas rehabilitation centre. I can only imagine this to be both a daunting and humbling experience.
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Since returning to Australia a couple of days ago, Pearce has fronted all forms of media and the Australian public and apologised for his behaviour, taken responsibility for his actions, admitted to his problems and emphatically stated that he had taken strong measures to ensure alcohol never affected his behaviour again in such a manner. He admits to letting down the game, his club, his teammates, his family and himself. He gives all the signs of being sincerely sorry and remorseful.
The Roosters have sacked Pearce from the captaincy of the club and I imagine they will deliver a hefty fine for the damage he has done to himself and the brand of the club. What more punishment does he need?
If he steps out of the crease again, remove his bails and send him packing. As it stands now though, he has more than paid for his ridiculous behaviour. Let him play and let's get on with life.
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[happy_tiger]

Phil Gould in todays Herald says ENOUGH IS ENOUGH AND TO LET HIM PLAY

Plenty of people have had their say on the punishment they believe Mitchell Pearce should receive for his antics on Australia Day. Talk of life bans, or even a six to 12-month suspension from the game are totally over the top and I hope cool heads prevail when the NRL sits down to consider a penalty.
My fear is that the NRL will not be looking for a punishment to fit the offence, but rather a sanction they think will be accepted by the media. Let's put things into perspective, Mitchell Pearce had way too much to drink and acted the fool at a private residence among a small gathering of people in the early hours of the morning. He woke to find he had been exposed to the world after being secretly recorded and the images were displayed repeatedly across all forms of media.
He was immediately criticised, vilified, humiliated, shamed, degraded and dishonoured. From there he left the country away from family and friends to spend 28 days in an overseas rehabilitation centre. I can only imagine this to be both a daunting and humbling experience.
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Since returning to Australia a couple of days ago, Pearce has fronted all forms of media and the Australian public and apologised for his behaviour, taken responsibility for his actions, admitted to his problems and emphatically stated that he had taken strong measures to ensure alcohol never affected his behaviour again in such a manner. He admits to letting down the game, his club, his teammates, his family and himself. He gives all the signs of being sincerely sorry and remorseful.
The Roosters have sacked Pearce from the captaincy of the club and I imagine they will deliver a hefty fine for the damage he has done to himself and the brand of the club. What more punishment does he need?
If he steps out of the crease again, remove his bails and send him packing. As it stands now though, he has more than paid for his ridiculous behaviour. Let him play and let's get on with life.
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Two words for you Gussy …...... Its OK Willow I won't say them

 

[Chadman_s_Ghost]

Other than being a drunk fool, what's he really guilty of?.

He is guilty of massively bringing the NRL into disrepute. What did Hoppa snr get his 12 or so week suspension for when he pulled his disgusting prank vs the Cowboys? He didn't hurt anyone but still copped the wrath of the NRL and rightly so. Mitchell Pearce has also disgraced our game so should cop the same suspension Hoppa got. No question.
We all know he will get off very lightly,a few tears here and there that he has shed will garner much sympathy from the PC types. There are different rules for different clubs, we will see this proven again when Mitch cops his ####weak punishment from NRL HQ.

Mate, there is a massive difference between what Pearce has done & what Hopoate did.

Hopoate was guilty of acts on the field of play.

Pearce was guilty of acting like a tool away from the field, in what would have been privacy had it not been filmed & then given to the media.

It's not a good look for Pearce. Read that again. Not a good look for Pearce.

It's a societal problem. A personal problem. A generational problem, perhaps, for Pearce.

Not an NRL problem.

The general public, the non-NRL fan will only remember that Pearce was a tool. No matter the punishment, unless it's something insane like a life ban, will ever be remembered as much as his acts.

If the NRL wants to knock it on the head, punishment won't fix it. The focus needs to be put on drinking problems in society, not NRL bad behaviour, because I can bet that there were 50000 other idiots out that night, not called Mitchell Pearce, who acted just as dumb but were not filmed during the act.

I dispute that Pearce shamed the game of rugby league. His crimes have absolutely nothing to do with the sport, and should be branded that way.

 

[Chadman_s_Ghost]

Other than being a drunk fool, what's he really guilty of?

Is it a good look? No, not at all. But what does suspending him prove? Does that stop everyone else on the planet from drinking like fools?

Does it make the NRL more popular to the general public?

Suspending & fining players isn't remembered down the road. These guys who 'get caught' with alcohol problems should be put into programs, and then do some kind of community awareness type tasks.

Sacking players like Carney, fining & suspending players like Pearce… it proves nothing. Achieves nothing.

They aren't interested in rehabilitating themselves because they don't see it as a problem. Rehabilitation programs are not magic bullets and if people don't engage then nothing will be achieved. Threatening their livelihood is the only form of deterrent that works. It may not stop them from ever doing it again but it will discourage them for a time.

And yes, the NRL are operating on the basis that discouraging their players from embarrassing themselves and the NRL while trollied will make the NRL brand more appealing to a broader section of the public.

I'll say this- the NRL are not responsible for personal behaviour away from football related events.

Rehab is absolutely the right course of action. Not only does it give the individual the chance to redeem himself, it also makes the NRL look like an organisation that has it's employees best interests at heart, not the media's perception of them at heart.

Players that go through rehab could then be incorporated by the NRL to do circuit work to pass on the message to deter others.

 

[innsaneink]

Does anyone else find it odd the Roosters and NRL seem to be working together to come to some sort of compromise regarding his punishment?
Not to mention the cocainel use allegations appear to be well and truly swept away

 

[Nelson]

I'll say this- the NRL are not responsible for personal behaviour away from football related events.

Rehab is absolutely the right course of action. Not only does it give the individual the chance to redeem himself, it also makes the NRL look like an organisation that has it's employees best interests at heart, not the media's perception of them at heart.

Players that go through rehab could then be incorporated by the NRL to do circuit work to pass on the message to deter others.

Regardless of whether or not they are responsible for the personal behaviour of players away from the game it does impact on the image of the NRL, so they have a legitimate interest in it. Their brand allows the players to make plenty of money so they can regulate their behaviour to some extent - at least to the extent that they don't go out, get smashed in public and then act like a complete jerk while simulating sex with a dog.

There is no absolute right course of action for dealing with him. Rehabilitation works for some while others will only respond to being taken to with a big stick. While you fairly see the rehab path as the NRL giving him a chance to redeem himself (again) others in the public will see it as the game being soft on its players and tacitly endorsing the conduct.

Just think of how kids who are never disciplined and never have boundaries set turn out…

 

[Fade_To_Black]

Does anyone else find it odd the Roosters and NRL seem to be working together to come to some sort of compromise regarding his punishment?
Not to mention the cocainel use allegations appear to be well and truly swept away

Yeah,not dodgy at all is it?

Politis will demand an apology from the NRL for the turmoil it has caused Pearce and will probably get one. What a ####pot comp these clowns run and they get dictated to by nuffies from clubland. Wish the NRL would grow a pair when it comes to dealing with the caviar-set that pollute our game.
The Roosters should be told to rack off and any interference they cause the NRL in handing down the punishment will result in Pearce's suspension being doubled. Money talks…....

 

[Byron_Bay_Fan]

Pearce has been a lot more forth coming about his short comings than George Pell has been in the witness box - yet Captain Big George got promoted to Vatican and Mitch is struggling without captaincy in Limbo. Something's not right.

 

[Tigermama]

OMG. We've been saturated with Mitchell Pearce's ongoing saga. On tv, on radio,in newspapers and magazines. The Roosters sure know how to play the game.
Come on NRL..Grow a backbone.

 

[balmain boy]

Players have been sacked for less. He's a repeat offender. He doesn't have a leg to stand on, and the Roosters are just trying to flex their political muscles. From what I recall, pissing in your own mouth isn't illegal, yet Carney got sacked. Joel Monagahan etc. There's many on the list

Rub him out for the year and let's move on.

 

[happy_tiger]

Does anyone else find it odd the Roosters and NRL seem to be working together to come to some sort of compromise regarding his punishment?
Not to mention the cocainel use allegations appear to be well and truly swept away

Actually Ink , The NRL (if the rumours are correct ) want to give Pearce 12 weeks ,and the Rooters are trying to fight it and only get 6

 

[Newtown]

Pearce has been a lot more forth coming about his short comings than George Pell has been in the witness box - yet Captain Big George got promoted to Vatican and Mitch is struggling without captaincy in Limbo. Something's not right.

Pearce would make a great captain? Somethings not right.

 

[WestsSupporter]

News just in, bash the **** out of your missus - continue playing.
Do something stupid while on the grog - 8 weeks and $100k.

The NRL are an absolute joke. They've now set a dangerous precedent.
What about Greg Inglis? Robert Lui? Greg Bird? Kirisome Auva'a? These guys are all thugs and should have either been put on strict probation or wiped from the game.
But Mitchell Pearce gets caught behaving like a dumbass and his career is put in jeopardy. Guys like this are dummies who need help. Guys like the above are thugs who have no place in society.

Something extra. What if it wasn't a high-profile player? If one of the plodders does a similar act, will he be fined $125k and lose 8 weeks? 8 weeks is a lot. For a fringe player that could be his career over.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

8 games and $125K fine.

Uncle Nick strikes again.

 

[happy_tiger]

8 games and $125K fine.

Uncle Nick strikes again.

Actually only 75 k if he doesn't reoffend

Look I still think they needed to come out publicly and say it is his last chance