OFFICIAL Blake Austin [Discussion]

[hobbo]

My god we are soft when it comes to player retention . Austin should be told to suck it up and told you're not going anywhere ! If Austin remains a utility player for next year than so be it IMO .

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[tig_prmz]

Blake: Tell the coach I want a permanent 5/8 spot next year.
GM: ok find a coach first .

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[guyofthetiger]

Blake reminds me of Inglis in his running style of play, and his tenacity to fight for the ball.
He's been ok at fullback when there, as well as five eighth. So maybe like Inglis, he could make a decent centre too.
He'll play, somewhere, no doubt, unless something miraculous happens with our S&C team, and we suddenly learn how to keep a first grade team fit and on the field.

 

[Geo]

I haven't seen 1 direct quote from Austin saying he is demanding the starting 6 spot just more media fluff yet peeps are lapping it up….funny stuff

 

[alex]

I haven't seen 1 direct quote from Austin saying he is demanding the starting 6 spot just more media fluff yet peeps are lapping it up….funny stuff

He's said in media interviews before he wants to be the Tigers first choice 6

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[Geo]

I haven't seen 1 direct quote from Austin saying he is demanding the starting 6 spot just more media fluff yet peeps are lapping it up….funny stuff

He's said in media interviews before he wants to be the Tigers first choice 6

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All players worth there salt do that…....Has he said he'd walk if he didn't get it?

 

[MightyMaggy]

The thing i must say about Austin is , he has really matured as a player this year and you can tell that he has got his house in order away from the footy field and is really obvious . Away from the field he is Coaching a Doonside team i believe and has finally put his of field troubles behind him .
Gus always said this kid Austin playing in Reserve Grade at Penrith can play , and i remember a couple of years ago Gus stating that in a Live Telecast , during a Panthers game he said " Rabs there is this kid by the name of Austin who can play " and he reminded him of a young Fittler , when he was coming through . That was about 4 years ago .
Austin leads by example , just let's his Footy doing the talking .
Anyone reckon if i email Mayer in regards with Austin that i will get a reply or am i just wasting my tiime ?
He has won me over long time ago and i don't want to look at him in another Jersey and think to myself we once had him but only thought of him as Utility and the Club let him realize his potential elsewhere a bit like the (Fafita ) scenario we had a couple of years ago.
Thoughts?

My son was the ARL Development Officer, when Blake was in his last year at Primary School. I cannot remember the exact details, but he was the Player Of The Year and my son made the presentation to him.
He has followed Blake's career since and he is aware of the big wraps that Penrith had on him, as he came through the Penrith junior representative system. He is **NOT** a big head, but he just wants some-one to understand his desires for his footballing future, so he can focus his efforts in one direction.

 

[alexaki]

Let the kid go and chase his dream where there is an opportunity….we have mosses and the kid everyone's raving about in NYC ...

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[Geo]

Let go a player that can cover 1,3,6,7,12 and 9 who leaves everything on the field when he pulls on the jersey for us…for two rookies one who is 18 the other yet to prove he is up to the week in week out grind that is NRL footy....makes sense...if it happens this club will never learn

 

[happy_tiger]

Two different situations. One wanted to go for money, the other for a guaranteed position.

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There are no guarantees. Stuart could be sacked. Canberra might not win a game, Campese could come good.
Austin is going for the money any other reason is just rubbish.
His under contract. Man up Mayer and just tell him no release.

I reckon there is more hope that David Campese will come good than Terry Campese

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

I see the 2 situations differently because Blake is not a Tigers junior who has been injured consistently. We have had good value out of Blake.

I don't know that we've got good value from Austin yet,
He was signed for two years and given another chance at first grade which he wasn't going to get at PEnrith. (For whatever reason)
He would have known before he came here , that the club had a high opinion of Brooks and Moses as a halves pairs(so would have known that it wasn't as simple of rocking up and slotting into five eighth)
While he did have some good games with us this year I 'm still not prepared to go as overboard over him as some have.
He possibly could end up as a top quality first grader, but IMO he's still got a long way to go to be at that level ,and be needs to be able to learn to set things up for his outside backs more than he does now.
There is no guarantee that Moses will make that jump in standard either but if Blake has any confidence in his own ability then he needs to show enough fight and determination to honour his contract and fight for the position next season ) , and so far as we know , that might be exactly what he intends to do)
Who knows ? With all the B/s around our club and the media , you can't believe anything you read.
I may be wrong , but at the moment I see Blake as a depth player to cover the positions that he has been already. If he turns out to be better than Moses , then he should get the spot if not he will be a good bench player for us until he can get a regular spot. And we need depth.

It should be remembered that he has played 26 or 27 first grade games between Penrith and Wests , and that Moses has had a lot less under difficult circumstances . BOth should get better
If he continues to improve and play out his contract then we probably would have got good value from himand he,s free to go anywhere or stay here.
I just hope that club management has learned from their experience this year, with releasing players one week, and then having to run around like chooks with their head cut off the next week, to try to fill the jumpers with anyone that was left standing.
I think that maybe Blake should show some gratitude to a club that has given him a chance in first grade. And show that he is good enough . If he does that he will be worth probably a lot more money on his next contract than he is now, no matter where he goes

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[PYMBLEPETE]

I see the 2 situations differently because Blake is not a Tigers junior who has been injured consistently. We have had good value out of Blake.

I don't know that we've got good value from Austin yet,
He was signed for two years and given another chance at first grade which he wasn't going to get at PEnrith. (For whatever reason)
He would have known before he came here , that the club had a high opinion of Brooks and Moses as a halves pairs(so would have known that it wasn't as simple of rocking up and slotting into five eighth)
While he did have some good games with us this year I 'm still not prepared to go as overboard over him as some have.
He possibly could end up as a top quality first grader, but IMO he's still got a long way to go to be at that level ,and be needs to be able to learn to set things up for his outside backs more than he does now.
There is no guarantee that Moses will make that jump in standard either but if Blake has any confidence in his own ability then he needs to show enough fight and determination to honour his contract and fight for the position next season ) , and so far as we know , that might be exactly what he intends to do)
Who knows ? With all the B/s around our club and the media , you can't believe anything you read.
I may be wrong , but at the moment I see Blake as a depth player to cover the positions that he has been already. If he turns out to be better than Moses , then he should get the spot if not he will be a good bench player for us until he can get a regular spot. And we need depth.

It should be remembered that he has played 26 or 27 first grade games between Penrith and Wests , and that Moses has had a lot less under difficult circumstances . BOth should get better
If he continues to improve and play out his contract then we probably would have got good value from himand he,s free to go anywhere or stay here.
I just hope that club management has learned from their experience this year, with releasing players one week, and then having to run around like chooks with their head cut off the next week, to try to fill the jumpers with anyone that was left standing.
I think that maybe Blake should show some gratitude to a club that has given him a chance in first grade. And show that he is good enough . If he does that he will be worth probably a lot more money on his next contract than he is now, no matter where he goes

I

Six paragraphs to say what exactly?

a 'depth player' - hilarious. Our player of the season is a 'depth player'. What do you describe the rest of the first grade squad as?

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

I see the 2 situations differently because Blake is not a Tigers junior who has been injured consistently. We have had good value out of Blake.

I don't know that we've got good value from Austin yet,
He was signed for two years and given another chance at first grade which he wasn't going to get at PEnrith. (For whatever reason)
He would have known before he came here , that the club had a high opinion of Brooks and Moses as a halves pairs(so would have known that it wasn't as simple of rocking up and slotting into five eighth)
While he did have some good games with us this year I 'm still not prepared to go as overboard over him as some have.
He possibly could end up as a top quality first grader, but IMO he's still got a long way to go to be at that level ,and be needs to be able to learn to set things up for his outside backs more than he does now.
There is no guarantee that Moses will make that jump in standard either but if Blake has any confidence in his own ability then he needs to show enough fight and determination to honour his contract and fight for the position next season ) , and so far as we know , that might be exactly what he intends to do)
Who knows ? With all the B/s around our club and the media , you can't believe anything you read.
I may be wrong , but at the moment I see Blake as a depth player to cover the positions that he has been already. If he turns out to be better than Moses , then he should get the spot if not he will be a good bench player for us until he can get a regular spot. And we need depth.

It should be remembered that he has played 26 or 27 first grade games between Penrith and Wests , and that Moses has had a lot less under difficult circumstances . BOth should get better
If he continues to improve and play out his contract then we probably would have got good value from himand he,s free to go anywhere or stay here.
I just hope that club management has learned from their experience this year, with releasing players one week, and then having to run around like chooks with their head cut off the next week, to try to fill the jumpers with anyone that was left standing.
I think that maybe Blake should show some gratitude to a club that has given him a chance in first grade. And show that he is good enough . If he does that he will be worth probably a lot more money on his next contract than he is now, no matter where he goes

I

Six paragraphs to say what exactly?

a 'depth player' - hilarious. Our player of the season is a 'depth player'. What do you describe the rest of the first grade squad as?

I'm glad I was able to make you happy.
I would have thought it was obvious as to what I said. I'll try and make it simpler .
It means : I have a different opinion to you, not necessarily meaning that I'm right , just a different opinion. You might have noticed that there are differing ones here.
It means that just because he's your player of the year that he May not be everyone's
It means he's good , but not yet to the standard of a top first grader and may or may not get to that level ( the same goes for Moses)
It means that he has a contract for another year and seeing some of our selections this year , we need to be more careful who we release.
It means that if our full team was available and Moses has a good off season Blake may Not make the top side unless on the bench .
I did use the wrong term and think he should be in the team but on the bench to cover the positions that he does now.
It means that probably the whole story about him is another media beat up and the bottom line is that I'm sick of seeing players ( or clubs ) breaking contracts

 

[Geo]

Wests Tigers utility Blake Austin still keen to join Canberra Raiders
Date
September 18, 2014 - 11:08AM
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Chris Wilson
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It's understood Potter and his coaching staff had denied Austin's initial request for a release to join the Raiders, but Potter's dismissal has now opened the door for the 23-year-old to make another bid to relocate to Canberra.
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Austin had sought a release last week from the final year of his Tigers contract to join the Raiders on a multi-year deal from 2015, but it was rejected.
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"Coaching staff have confirmed he [Austin] is part of their plans for next season," Tigers chief executive Grant Mayer tweeted last week.
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But Austin's preference is still to come to Canberra, where he sees a better opportunity to establish himself as an NRL five-eighth and a stable home for his two young children.
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Austin may not even wait until a new Tigers coach is appointed before again seeking a release from the Tigers.
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Austin is only on a second-tier contract at the Tigers, who have earmarked youngsters Luke Brooks, 19, and Mitchell Moses, 20, as their future halves combination.
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Austin can also play fullback, but the Tigers have heavily invested in re-signing James Tedesco, 21, after he backflipped on a three-year deal to join the Raiders.
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The Raiders are understandably gun shy about talking up any potential recruits, having narrowly missed out on snaring targets including Melbourne's Kevin Proctor and Penrith's Josh Mansour. But Austin's signature would be a major coup for the club, given it is looking to solve issues in the halves next season.
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A Penrith junior, Austin's career only really took off this year when he joined the Tigers and played 19 matches. The halves remains Canberra's biggest trouble spot for 2015.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/wests-tigers-utility-blake-austin-still-keen-to-join-canberra-raiders-20140917-10i7k1.html#ixzz3De4YKvMn

I'd still be saying No…

 

[tig_prmz]

I don't get the point of these stupid articles. The only quote they have is someone from the club DENYING it but their headline is of the contrary.

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[supercoach]

Second tier contract and being second choice for his preferred position and than the Raiders come along and offer him the world, of course he is going to ask for a release.

Be nice to have a coach who could sit down with him and thrash out a workable deal that would keep him happy at the Tigers for at least 2015.

Pointless at having unhappy campers just to prove a point. He proved this year what a quality player he is and I think he is worth a substantial upgrade even if its for only 2015

 

[dazza65]

He has a contract
He was our best player in 2014.
He stays.
We give him an upgrade for 2015.
We sign him for 2016 and beyond if the new coaching brains trust want him.
If he spits the dummy he spends 2015 in NSW Cup on a second tier contract.
See who wants to buy him in 2016.
Simple. Business.

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[Guest]

The thing I fear in this is if we deny Austin a release and he misses out on doubling, or tripling his income elsewhere, how happy is he going to be at the Tigers next season? He could well spit the dummy and play the season out in State Cup which benefits no one.

Personally I'd give him the release.

 

[jctiger]

The thing I fear in this is if we deny Austin a release and he misses out on doubling, or tripling his income elsewhere, how happy is he going to be at the Tigers next season? He could well spit the dummy and play the season out in State Cup which benefits no one.

Personally I'd give him the release.

He would do himself no favours by spitting the dummy and spending next year in State cup. I'd imaging, being a professional football player he'd play his best in the hope of gaining another descent offer.

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[PYMBLEPETE]

The thing I fear in this is if we deny Austin a release and he misses out on doubling, or tripling his income elsewhere, how happy is he going to be at the Tigers next season? He could well spit the dummy and play the season out in State Cup which benefits no one.

Personally I'd give him the release.

I disagree; I doubt he would cut off his nose to spite his face. He is acting rationally in asking for a release - cant blame him at all. I expect he would continue to act rationally and not devalue his market value by being satisfied playing State Cup. But the club has him under contract and he is a valuable player. It should not be beyond the wit (sorry I take that back); hopefully the club can offer him an upgrade which reflects his importance to the team. Better still, negotiate something long term. Any half wit could see we are better off with him; dont need a coach to make that call.