BRET and Magpies Semi Final claims

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Leroy_The_Tigers_Fan

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Just had a look at the ladder and the draw for the NSW Cup and it's unfortunate that only one of these sides can make the Semi's in 8th spot.
BRET currently hold the last spot in the finals series but aren't setting the world on fire as you would expect while the Magpies are the form side in the competition with some stunning results recently and have the benefit of the bye this week before the final round.
However the Maggies are still 1 point behind Windsor and need BRET to lose their next 2 games, the stumbling block for the Magpies is next weekend's game between BRET and Manly, the Sea Eagles beat Newtown last weekend but fell to the Centurions yesterday.
BRET badly need to get back to winning form and could find it against Manly but the Sea Eagles are also eager to avoid the Wooden Spoon so this one would expect to be a lively encounter.
If BRET do win this match then the Magpies will miss out which is unfortunate but when you look at the talent that Paul Fletcher and Leo Epifania have to work with, as far as I'm concerned Epifania is Coach of the year material, on paper the BRET side should be Top 4 status while the Magpies can't even score an offcast from the NRL and if things had been fair against the Bulldogs then it's the Magpies in and BRET out of the finals.
 
When you consider the fact Leo had to rebuild the entire team at the start of the year, the fact his team is even competitive is amazing.

A lesser man would have thrown up his hands and given up, but he didn't. He has devoted himself fully and finally the results are coming. All Wests fans and rugby league supporters owe him their gratitude.
 
with all the crap wests have had to put up with this year (getting none of the wt squad players) i will be happy if we avoid the wooden spoon
 
and balmain ryde eastwood should be doing alot better than they are considering they get all of the wt squad players that arent in 1st grade, plus some of wests magpies best players from last year who arent in the wt squad
 
Wake up…..how many players....they nuffies.....its also a disadvantage if someone gets called up you lose a player.Change the record its broken.

Name these so called players.
 
@tiger4ever said:
Wake up…..how many players....they nuffies.....its also a disadvantage if someone gets called up you lose a player.Change the record its broken.

Name these so called players.
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im just telling it how it is. only 17 get picked for 1st grade and the wt have a squad of 25.

also pearn and waters and akeripa went to balmain
 
yeah their guns….theres a few balmain at wests so get the violin out.Theres 2 out of them that would seriously be considered by other clubs to play first grade.
 
@tiger4ever said:
yeah their guns….theres a few balmain at wests so get the violin out.Theres 2 out of them that would seriously be considered by other clubs to play first grade.
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That's not what the Fonz thinks mate. The Fonz exclusively pulls players from BRET and the NYC only to play first grade as he has stacked players in the BRET team.

He is a fool and his structures have failed once again.

How funny is it that the Leo Epifania coached Magpies have won more games this year than the NRL Stacked, Fonz managed BRET side !!!!!
:roll
 
Three things have derailed BRET's season for mine and they are NRL injuries (and their own injury toll has been pretty bad), players on standby for NRL games and in doing so missing State Cup games, and finally the amount of players lost during the season are of significance. Non WT contracted players who were offered a chance for full time training with other squads in the NRL.

Overall though none of that worries me. The system has been a resounding success where it counts. The NRL. Every player called upon has fitted straight into the patterns and systems because play calls and structures are the same basic structure as the NRL squad.

State Cup is like NYC. It would be nice if the team won the comp but in reality they are just something for fans to cheer for on Grand Final day if their squad does not make the big game
 
Bug as much as I am happy that Wests have won more games than the BRET side the BRET side has been more disrupted by all the call ups to First grade with all the injuries woes
As I said many months ago the ideal situation for all involved would be to have our best forwards playing for Wests and our best backs playing for BRET for example (or vice versa)
That way the NRL side still has combinations if they have to call multiple players up from either side
The biggest concern is for neither BRET or Wests but for the health of our top NRL side
When are people going to get that ??
 
@Balmain Bug said:
@tiger4ever said:
yeah their guns….theres a few balmain at wests so get the violin out.Theres 2 out of them that would seriously be considered by other clubs to play first grade.

That's not what the Fonz thinks mate. The Fonz exclusively pulls players from BRET and the NYC only to play first grade as he has stacked players in the BRET team.

He is a fool and his structures have failed once again.

How funny is it that the Leo Epifania coached Magpies have won more games this year than the NRL Stacked, Fonz managed BRET side !!!!!
:roll
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Smeg has is right on, the success of this system is seen in the NRL team, and I believe the problem with the second tier at our club is Wests care more about winning a State Cup competition than producing players that fit within structures and perform well in the top grade.

Your comments here are exactly the problems Bug, 'Fonz' is worried about a strong first grade, and why should he be worried about anything else? A single State Cup under the WT banner will present the best chance for WT to win a FG comp, and we really shouldn't be too worried about the place on the table of the State Cup team.
 
matty119 in 2005 and 2010 when we made the semi's we had shared NRL players in the State cup squads.

Explain that ? That system seemed to work back then.
 
@Balmain Bug said:
matty119 in 2005 and 2010 when we made the semi's we had shared NRL players in the State cup squads.

Explain that ? That system seemed to work back then.
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Point one - both years you mention we had a great run with injuries, which means that the State Cup players were rarely thrust into the side. In the years that we've missed the semis, we've had massive injury tolls, yet still competed with many teams. This has happened this year, where we've lost manly players, yet players have slotted in with ease (Meaney, Flanagan, Shirnacks just to name a few) because they are playing together.

In your eyes the system may have worked, but as a whole it does not make sense!

Why are you, and the Wests organisation for that matter, so concerned with winning a State Cup competition that you would go to a rival club to help do it? It's absurd! Wests do not have the best interests of WT at heart, so why should they be rewarded with players from the top 25? If they miss the finals this year (which is looking likely) in an 11 team competition, it is their own fault.
 
I think thats a little unfair Matty119.

The Wests Group is made up of three parties, two of which are behind the Wests Tigers moving forward, funnily enough those are the factions that are financially sound.

I still await the day a Wests Tigers branded State Cup side runs out. That will be a fine day
 
@matty119 said:
@Balmain Bug said:
matty119 in 2005 and 2010 when we made the semi's we had shared NRL players in the State cup squads.

Explain that ? That system seemed to work back then.

Point one - both years you mention we had a great run with injuries, which means that the State Cup players were rarely thrust into the side. In the years that we've missed the semis, we've had massive injury tolls, yet still competed with many teams. This has happened this year, where we've lost manly players, yet players have slotted in with ease (Meaney, Flanagan, Shirnacks just to name a few) because they are playing together.

In your eyes the system may have worked, but as a whole it does not make sense!

Why are you, and the Wests organisation for that matter, so concerned with winning a State Cup competition that you would go to a rival club to help do it? It's absurd! Wests do not have the best interests of WT at heart, so why should they be rewarded with players from the top 25? If they miss the finals this year (which is looking likely) in an 11 team competition, it is their own fault.
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Matty119,
I am not concerned about winning a State Cup competition. I am concerned that one side of the JV get everything, and the 'other' side as the FIB calls them, get nothing.

Wests Tigers is the main priority. I have always said that. So please dont try and paint me as preaching anything else. I am just saying that the Fonz and the Fibs plan of stacking the BRET team of all of the best of the rest players, has failed miserably for the BRET side.

It can not be argued that these players filled in well in first grade because when WT had the massive injury toll **WE WERE NOT WINNING GAMES.** The players that filled in did not do a good job. We were losing. They did not slot in as well as what you claim.

You are just jealous that Leo EPIFANIA has coached the Wests Magpies (who themselves have had a horrendous season with injury) to an outstanding result with a team of 'Nobodys'.

It truly is an inspirational performance by Leo, his team and the Wests Magpies organisation with very little support from the Wests Tigers. (Only $60K in WT paid playing strength) as apposed to almost $1m in playing strength available to BRET.

That is a disgrace. :unamused:
 
We actually won alot of important games with fill in players.

We beat a virtually full strenth Bunnies side with fill ins.

I am actually happy for the Magpies to have clicked and be playing with the spirit they are and the results this has bought them.

I am however far happier with the results of the NRL squad which have been assisted in no small part by players from all call up squads being under the one system.

That State Cup side would have been labelled as a Wests Tigers reserve grade side had it not been for the remonstrating of a small group
 
Absolutely their perogative.

It is also Wests Tigers perogative to want to extend their brand through all three grades.

For mine a wiser move would have been to compromise and gain a new agreement on Magpie brand recognition in the NRL structure and guarantee that no rebrand of Junior Reps would occur in exchange for allowing the Wests Tigers State Cup side to come into being.

To throw all your efforts into a cause that could easily be rendered moot by the stroke of a pen from the Independant Commission bringing in a National Reserve Grade Competitionis short sighted and removews all bargaining power.

Short sightedness would be a side effect of only ever looking backwards though
 
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