Brooks becomes the running man

[Needaname]

Come on mate give him some credit.
That last play brooks took it right to the line, Teddy actually caught it and shuffled right then went left. Too be honest we were quite lucky it was a try.
That said I'm still stoked.
And your basing where he should on what exactly?
Anyway all I'm saying is it's long change from this time last year where Brooks touched the ball once in a set for a crash play or a bomb down field.
'Not exactly this time last year as I realised brooks was probably injured in this same game back then.'

 

[momo_amp_medo]

I have no problem with how Brooks is developing.

 

[Needaname]

That's just it isn't it,
He is developing.
His 80 games in, but it's only been his last 10 games where can actually see him doing more with his game.
The first 70 certainly have stunted his development.
Was it Farah?
Was it Taylor?
Was it Moses?
Or was it just the simple fact that his expected to be a superstar from the moment he came into grade.

 

[Needaname]

Final note, just in re watching the game. Both his try assist and the repeat set came off kicks off his right foot.
Has he decided to put the left boot away close to the line?

 

[stryker]

That's just it isn't it,
He is developing.
His 80 games in, but it's only been his last 10 games where can actually see him doing more with his game.
The first 70 certainly have stunted his development.
Was it Farah?
Was it Taylor?
Was it Moses?
Or was it just the simple fact that his expected to be a superstar from the moment he came into grade.

Hopefully he can run a game from start to finish before we celebrate his 150th.

 

[Tacky]

All you guys seem so good at stats and define a player by stats. I would love if all the stats lovers digged deep and found out what Andrew Johns stats were for a full season when he was Brooks's age.
I don't doubt Johns but i think he had alot more time to establish himself then what us WT'S fans are giving Brooks . Someone, some statacian on this forum, seek it out. It will put us all to rest.
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http://www.rugbyleagueproject.org/players/andrew-johns/summary.html

You can use that website to find any player or match stats you want.

 

[yeti]

That's just it isn't it,
He is developing.
His 80 games in, but it's only been his last 10 games where can actually see him doing more with his game.
The first 70 certainly have stunted his development.
Was it Farah?
Was it Taylor?
Was it Moses?
Or was it just the simple fact that his expected to be a superstar from the moment he came into grade.

Hopefully he can run a game from start to finish before we celebrate his 150th.

He's doing alright. I reckon this time next year he will be one of the better half backs in the game. Better go forward from his forwards on a consistent basis and his running game will be even better. Needs to work on his kicking game for sure - but it's not something that's beyond him. And I think his defence is improving all the time. With better structures around him he'll be very good.

 

[Tigers17]

That's just it isn't it,
He is developing.
His 80 games in, but it's only been his last 10 games where can actually see him doing more with his game.
The first 70 certainly have stunted his development.
Was it Farah?
Was it Taylor?
Was it Moses?
Or was it just the simple fact that his expected to be a superstar from the moment he came into grade.

Hopefully he can run a game from start to finish before we celebrate his 150th.

That comment is really PATHETIC.
How about we have a resume of your athletic prowess ?????.

 

[Wa_Mag_Tig]

like i said get a better team around him and he will pull through. Our team this year are getting better.

 

[Wa_Mag_Tig]

Good pick up needaname. I have posted recently that we need a player who can use right kicks and one who can use left kicks. I'm left footed bugger if i can kick anything with right foot. It comes natural to some but not everyone
Good to see someone is actually watching the game.

 

[stryker]

Yes more room from a better pack will equal a better running game which is his strength.
His kicking game is sub par presently but that can be worked on and fixed.
His defence is improving and technique wise he is solid, just needs consistent efforts which can be worked on and fixed.
Game management is lacking, but again that can be learned.

However…he doesnt seem to blessed with talent like other great halves and he doesnt seem to be a student of the game. When you hear him interviewed, its the same robotic answers just as it is within the game when he gets flustered. He doesnt seem to plan ahead and understand that the plays you put on at the beginning of the set effect the plays at the end of it...or even in 2 sets time. He lets the pigs truck it up a couple of times then has a hit and hope with the backs. He also rigidly sticks to structure when a play is on, seemingly not watching the defensive line. Classic example today when the play called for an inside ball to Ted, he failed to notice that the defence read it and commited to it anyway. Ted got hit by 2 guys and spilt the ball. This happens A LOT.

Look i hope he does work out because the club has invested millions in him. I have my doubts he'll ever be a good half though.

 

[bbobb]

That's just it isn't it,
He is developing.
His 80 games in, but it's only been his last 10 games where can actually see him doing more with his game.
The first 70 certainly have stunted his development.
Was it Farah?
Was it Taylor?
Was it Moses?
Or was it just the simple fact that his expected to be a superstar from the moment he came into grade.

I think it was more Moses and I believe it has really stymied Brooks' development. Yes, he has played 80 odd games but I think he will improve dramatically over the next season to a point where he will be a very seasoned first grade half back. I also think Benji might be a better mentor than people give him credit for - all good signs

 

[earl]

Classic example today when the play called for an inside ball to Ted, he failed to notice that the defence read it and commited to it anyway. Ted got hit by 2 guys and spilt the ball. This happens A LOT.

I think Tedesco stuffed that play up.

 

[Gary_Bakerloo]

Classic example today when the play called for an inside ball to Ted, he failed to notice that the defence read it and commited to it anyway. Ted got hit by 2 guys and spilt the ball. This happens A LOT.

I think Tedesco stuffed that play up.

It's one thing I noticed yesterday in the second half, Tedesco was more the source of poor last tackle options rather than Brooks and Lolohea. I thought Brooks was very good in the second half, especially the last 15 when he showed patience - never seen us win so many repeat sets.

Barrett applauded our kicking game in the press conference.

 

[Gary_Bakerloo]

I agree somewhat. His involvement has improved and his dud plays are sort of declining. That said, many times today he seemed to have no plan and no clue what to do on tackle 6\. Even for the match winning try, we got the call on the obstruction play because Luke's pass to Ted was so poor that he had to stop moving completely to affect the catch.

He is getting better but is miles behind where he should be. Cherry gave him a bath.

I've watched that play for the try and I think Chee Kam is slightly late on the run and Brooks is forced to hold up the pass fractionally. That said, holding it up fractionally caused DCE to commit and then try to milk the penalty, giving the space to Tedesco. Thankfully, despite being fractionally late, Chee Kam ran the correct line, just.

 

[Masterton]

That's just it isn't it,
He is developing.
His 80 games in, but it's only been his last 10 games where can actually see him doing more with his game.
The first 70 certainly have stunted his development.
Was it Farah?
Was it Taylor?
Was it Moses?
Or was it just the simple fact that his expected to be a superstar from the moment he came into grade.

IMHO, it's because Brooks is willing to play 2nd fiddle if there is a more dominant playmaker around him. I think we can see that Cleary is already starting to beat it out of him.

 

[stryker]

Classic example today when the play called for an inside ball to Ted, he failed to notice that the defence read it and commited to it anyway. Ted got hit by 2 guys and spilt the ball. This happens A LOT.

I think Tedesco stuffed that play up.

How? He was completely covered and received what was essentially a hospital ball. Never pass to a player in a worse position then you.

 

[earl]

Classic example today when the play called for an inside ball to Ted, he failed to notice that the defence read it and commited to it anyway. Ted got hit by 2 guys and spilt the ball. This happens A LOT.

I think Tedesco stuffed that play up.

How? He was completely covered and received what was essentially a hospital ball. Never pass to a player in a worse position then you.

I don't think he was in that bad a position. I think he should have held it.

 

[Telltails]

Seems to be an adrenaline thing to me. Often comes up with the wrong play/ and or stuffs it up at critical moments. And then at the same time instinctively he will pull off some great plays. Needs to learn how to keep a cool head because he has got enough natural ability to be a good half but maybe not the superstar he originally was touted to be.

 

[stryker]

Classic example today when the play called for an inside ball to Ted, he failed to notice that the defence read it and commited to it anyway. Ted got hit by 2 guys and spilt the ball. This happens A LOT.

I think Tedesco stuffed that play up.

How? He was completely covered and received what was essentially a hospital ball. Never pass to a player in a worse position then you.

I don't think he was in that bad a position. I think he should have held it.

My point wasnt whether he held it or not. The pass was a low percentage play and the better halves would have elected to dummy and run rather than risk it. His decision making process is slow and it makes him predictable a lot of the time. You can work with a player to improve their defence, kicking, running etc but itll take a lot of effort to help them to think faster.