Brooks is no good

[TrueTiger]

Time to Bump this thread ..
Thoughts ??

Thought remains...

Got outplayed by a full blown rookie.

Brooks has failed us.
The club has not failed Brooks.

Moved mountains for him to make him be able to succeed and he has failed multiple times.

Time to walk away.

No hate to the guy, he seems alright.
Just not the guy for us.

When Benji came back and Brooks regressed many said it was because Benji was too dominant and demanded the ball more. Many said this hindered Brooks' game. Benji was moved on and Brooks was given a license to lead the team around the park, when that for the most part failed many said he needed help in the halves to take the pressure off him.

AD slots in at 6 early in the season and for the most part plays well however Brooks again goes missing and many claim he needs the ball more and AD was taking too much of the dominant role away from him.

I'm in no way a Brooks hater, hell I'd love for him to prove all his doubters wrong however it seems he just doesn't have the ability to produce consistently enough to be the 7 we need him to be.

Adding to that,when Mbye played alongside of him this year,Brooks seemed to play more controlled and confidently,I know Mbye is going so Im not asking for him to be there,moreso saying that someone with halves skill and ability like Hastings next year could bring out the best in Luke...it could be what he needs...not a young rookie such as AD,who is a great player ,but still not a solid halves player yet....just my opinion because I think its a confidence thing and added pressure of captaincy may be a bit much atm for him...

 

[Alex Seyfarth's #1 Fan]

Haha eat it Brooks haters! He's gonna be here next year and there's nothing you can do about it! :middle_finger: :middle_finger:

 

[bigsiro]

I thought he was one of our best out there yesterday.

The wind was really tricky for his kicking game and he still managed to get lots of kick metres in. Also, because he is smaller than other players his passing game probably suffered due to the swirling breezes.
So now people are blaming Brooks for the elements? Seriously, how pathetic.

Did you all see that Brooks made less errors than pretty-boy Cleary? If Brooks was playing for Penrith they would have won by 70+. Cleary is just lucky he has Luai - makes him look good. If we had a better 6, Brooks would be the Australian halfback. Easily.

And by the way, tackling is Brooks' best attribute, cannot believe people would pick on him for a few missed tackles. It is so obvious that he was isolated so many times in defence due to his outside backs not doing their bit - blame them!

And finally, the captaincy has affected his play. He was unbelievable the first 20 rounds when he wasn't the captain. Suddenly he misses a tackle and puts one bad bomb in? It's the captaincy, I blame Madge.

I'm tired of you guys and all this Brooks bashing when you cannot see that it is absolutely never his fault!

 

[Lauren]

The competition's rule changes haven't exactly been too convenient or favourable to where we are as a team. It's made a team in a current rebuild position, with some poor qualities, look exactly this way.
It's probably a lot easier to allocate some blame to the person whose role in the team - as the chief playmaker - isn't being fulfilled to a certain standard or expectation.
His year has been better than average for mine. His leadership is still poor and I don't think he's captain material at all but because he's our longest serving player and hasn't reached his potential he's the obvious target.

In all truthlfulness, the Wests Tigers haven't served fans for a long time and the fact they've helped create some of the club's current confines is more significant to why we've suffered ongoing failures than Luke.
It's disappointing to see him blamed for the team's lack of success. Plus his worth to the team is now more crucial than ever given Doueihi's gone down with injury.

 

[hugh1954]

I am hoping Hastings will be a super star or at least has 1/2 a brain and some aggression in leading the team around consistently every week. Luke needs to either find a new club or be prepared to fight for his position next season. WE ALL LOVE A LOCAL JUNIOR STARTING AND FINISHING THEIR CAREER WITH ONE SPECIAL CLUB but Luke is NO Wayne Pearce and times have changed with $$$$$ and professionalism

 

[hobbo1]

Haha eat it Brooks haters! He's gonna be here next year and there's nothing you can do about it! :middle_finger: :middle_finger:

There’s always one loser that’s happy with continued inept performances..
take a bow son !

 

[avocadoontoast]

The competition's rule changes haven't exactly been too convenient or favourable to where we are as a team. It's made a team in a current rebuild position, with some poor qualities, look exactly this way.
It's probably a lot easier to allocate some blame to the person whose role in the team - as the chief playmaker - isn't being fulfilled to a certain standard or expectation.
His year has been better than average for mine. His leadership is still poor and I don't think he's captain material at all but because he's our longest serving player and hasn't reached his potential he's the obvious target.

In all truthlfulness, the Wests Tigers haven't served fans for a long time and the fact they've helped create some of the club's current confines is more significant to why we've suffered ongoing failures than Luke.
It's disappointing to see him blamed for the team's lack of success. Plus his worth to the team is now more crucial than ever given Doueihi's gone down with injury.

I don't think Brooks is to blame at all for the club's lack of success. Conversely, I think it's the clubs continued incompetence that impacted his development.

I think it's too late for him to ever become the player we need him to be now - we're trying to put a square peg in a round hole.

I think both parties would be better served by going their separate ways.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

People just can’t accept he’s not going to improve and he’s not gonna get any worse. And again, he’s not going anywhere. It’s almost like arguing with the old Magpie fanatics about how the poor old Magpies weren’t coming back. Divorced from reality. The Brooks bashers are nearly as bad, in the fetal position, rocking back and forth “Brooks is leaving, Brooks is leaving”. He isn’t 🤷‍♂️

 

[TheDaBoss]

People just can’t accept he’s not going to improve and he’s not gonna get any worse. And again, he’s not going anywhere. It’s almost like arguing with the old Magpie fanatics about how the poor old Magpies weren’t coming back. Divorced from reality. The Brooks bashers are nearly as bad, in the fetal position, rocking back and forth “Brooks is leaving, Brooks is leaving”. He isn’t 🤷‍♂️

Everyone needs to be hypnotised into thinking he is a debutant again 😂

 

[hobbo1]

People just can’t accept he’s not going to improve and he’s not gonna get any worse. And again, he’s not going anywhere. It’s almost like arguing with the old Magpie fanatics about how the poor old Magpies weren’t coming back. Divorced from reality. The Brooks bashers are nearly as bad, in the fetal position, rocking back and forth “Brooks is leaving, Brooks is leaving”. He isn’t 🤷‍♂️

He’s getting worse
Can’t even tackle now ..
what’s the point persisting with the douche ?

Rookie Madden offered more on the weekend ..
may as well piss into the wind persevering with the Brooks

 

[TrueTiger]

The competition's rule changes haven't exactly been too convenient or favourable to where we are as a team. It's made a team in a current rebuild position, with some poor qualities, look exactly this way.
It's probably a lot easier to allocate some blame to the person whose role in the team - as the chief playmaker - isn't being fulfilled to a certain standard or expectation.
His year has been better than average for mine. His leadership is still poor and I don't think he's captain material at all but because he's our longest serving player and hasn't reached his potential he's the obvious target.

In all truthlfulness, the Wests Tigers haven't served fans for a long time and the fact they've helped create some of the club's current confines is more significant to why we've suffered ongoing failures than Luke.
It's disappointing to see him blamed for the team's lack of success. Plus his worth to the team is now more crucial than ever given Doueihi's gone down with injury.

I don't think Brooks is to blame at all for the club's lack of success. Conversely, I think it's the clubs continued incompetence that impacted his development.

I think it's too late for him to ever become the player we need him to be now - we're trying to put a square peg in a round hole.

I think both parties would be better served by going their separate ways.

In all fairness to Luke as well,if the club had some real foresight when Luke was in his first year of NRL and had a specialist 5/8 alongside of him instead of an overuling club icon who played 1/2 and 5/8 during his career he may have made a solid combo in the following years...as its turned out he has multiple players of varying degrees in the halves with him,Moses a 1/2 at Parra but 5/8 with us,JRey with injuries,Mbye out of form and now AD who is injured...
Hastings could well be the one that Luke can play confidently along and his running game could come to the fore again...but then again who knows what will happen until AD makes a full recovery....

 

[Alex Seyfarth's #1 Fan]

Haha eat it Brooks haters! He's gonna be here next year and there's nothing you can do about it! :middle_finger: :middle_finger:

There’s always one loser that’s happy with continued inept performances..
take a bow son !

I am the sole remaining member of LBFC. Therefore I now assume the role of President. One day you will all beg me to reinstate your memberships.

 

[Lauren]

The competition's rule changes haven't exactly been too convenient or favourable to where we are as a team. It's made a team in a current rebuild position, with some poor qualities, look exactly this way.
It's probably a lot easier to allocate some blame to the person whose role in the team - as the chief playmaker - isn't being fulfilled to a certain standard or expectation.
His year has been better than average for mine. His leadership is still poor and I don't think he's captain material at all but because he's our longest serving player and hasn't reached his potential he's the obvious target.

In all truthlfulness, the Wests Tigers haven't served fans for a long time and the fact they've helped create some of the club's current confines is more significant to why we've suffered ongoing failures than Luke.
It's disappointing to see him blamed for the team's lack of success. Plus his worth to the team is now more crucial than ever given Doueihi's gone down with injury.

I don't think Brooks is to blame at all for the club's lack of success. Conversely, I think it's the clubs continued incompetence that impacted his development.

I think it's too late for him to ever become the player we need him to be now - we're trying to put a square peg in a round hole.

I think both parties would be better served by going their separate ways.

Thanks Avo and because he is one of the faces of the team, I understand all concerns and see the validity of most posts.
This isn't directed at you but I honestly just don't get how he is considered to be at fault for all the team's underachievements in the last 8 years.

My only interest with any of these discussions is that I worry about the impact on the next generation.
All the club's (and fans) future hopes are invested in these players and until we strengthen our position/quality as a team, they basically face the same predicament as Luke did.
There's worry for the pressures and challenges they'll undergo as WT players and I just don't want this experience to drive them away. I'd also like to be a club that is competent in optimally developing all our players tbh.

 

[JC99]

People just can’t accept he’s not going to improve and he’s not gonna get any worse. And again, he’s not going anywhere. It’s almost like arguing with the old Magpie fanatics about how the poor old Magpies weren’t coming back. Divorced from reality. The Brooks bashers are nearly as bad, in the fetal position, rocking back and forth “Brooks is leaving, Brooks is leaving”. He isn’t ?‍♂️

He’s getting worse
Can’t even tackle now ..
what’s the point persisting with the douche ?

Rookie Madden offered more on the weekend ..
may as well piss into the wind persevering with the Brooks

10 missed tackles. It's his only top level attribute and he's starting to suck at that too. Sick of seeing him in a tigers jersey

 

[hobbo1]

People just can’t accept he’s not going to improve and he’s not gonna get any worse. And again, he’s not going anywhere. It’s almost like arguing with the old Magpie fanatics about how the poor old Magpies weren’t coming back. Divorced from reality. The Brooks bashers are nearly as bad, in the fetal position, rocking back and forth “Brooks is leaving, Brooks is leaving”. He isn’t ?‍♂️

He’s getting worse
Can’t even tackle now ..
what’s the point persisting with the douche ?

Rookie Madden offered more on the weekend ..
may as well piss into the wind persevering with the Brooks

10 missed tackles. It's his only top level attribute and he's starting to suck at that too. Sick of seeing him in a tigers jersey

He needs to be shown the exit
Don’t care about the money

 

[Snake]

People just can’t accept he’s not going to improve and he’s not gonna get any worse. And again, he’s not going anywhere. It’s almost like arguing with the old Magpie fanatics about how the poor old Magpies weren’t coming back. Divorced from reality. The Brooks bashers are nearly as bad, in the fetal position, rocking back and forth “Brooks is leaving, Brooks is leaving”. He isn’t ?‍♂️

He’s getting worse
Can’t even tackle now ..
what’s the point persisting with the douche ?

Rookie Madden offered more on the weekend ..
may as well piss into the wind persevering with the Brooks

10 missed tackles. It's his only top level attribute and he's starting to suck at that too. Sick of seeing him in a tigers jersey

He needs to be shown the exit
Don’t care about the money

He probably realises that he is on the outer ! His engagement over the last month has been poor !

 

[900Large 0]

At the end of the day he is paid to do a job, and that job is to create opportunities for the team to win the game. The way this is done these days is to build pressure, kick to the corners, force restarts and put defence in two minds with the ball in hand, all while executing minimal errors. Unfortunately after 8 or 9 seasons, he just doesn't do this enough or well enough.
He reminds me of my old FB station Wagon, each time I turn the key I don't know whether it will run like the day it was bought, give up the ghost on Anzac Bridge, or make me take the bus. I cant get rid of it because I bought it 25 years ago, so I may have to buy a prius and put the FB in the garage.
Unfortunately I just haven't seen improvement. That said, with the arrival of Hastings, Luke has a genuine challenger, maybe he will rise to the occasion or spend the next season in the garage

 

[bigsiro]

There's worry for the pressures and challenges they'll undergo as WT players and I just don't want this experience to drive them away. I'd also like to be a club that is competent in optimally developing all our players tbh.

Lauren, you always speak sense, even though I don't always agree with you.

You see Brooks as a scapegoat, but don't you think it is more detrimental to the club and our development to keep a halfback who has failed to deliver for nearly a decade?

And don't you think we have invested quite enough into his development? It's not like we haven't tried.

I'm not saying we have had countless halves breaking our doors down over the last decade, but isn't there also the argument that management's unwavering faith in him has potentially cost us the chance to develop anyone else over this woeful period? The argument definitely goes both ways.

To your other point, I'm not saying he is solely responsible for our failures, but you cannot say that an underperforming halfback (no matter the excuse) is not a big part of the problem.

Players want to be part of success. My fear is, that players recognise our managerial lack of fortitude and don't want to be part of a club where losing is rewarded.

@GNR4LIFE and @Kazoo-Kid may be right, we might be stuck with him for better or for worse.
It's just not for better. It isn't. We have had more than enough evidence to know.

Us as fans desperately crave some measure of success, some measure of improvement. As such, we should be demand more decisive action from our club's management. Even if you see him as a scapegoat.

 

[bigsiro]

Haha eat it Brooks haters! He's gonna be here next year and there's nothing you can do about it! :middle_finger: :middle_finger:

There’s always one loser that’s happy with continued inept performances..
take a bow son !

I am the sole remaining member of LBFC. Therefore I now assume the role of President. One day you will all beg me to reinstate your memberships.

Mate, good luck, your crown is far heavier than mine these days.

 

[hobbo1]

People just can’t accept he’s not going to improve and he’s not gonna get any worse. And again, he’s not going anywhere. It’s almost like arguing with the old Magpie fanatics about how the poor old Magpies weren’t coming back. Divorced from reality. The Brooks bashers are nearly as bad, in the fetal position, rocking back and forth “Brooks is leaving, Brooks is leaving”. He isn’t ?‍♂️

He’s getting worse
Can’t even tackle now ..
what’s the point persisting with the douche ?

Rookie Madden offered more on the weekend ..
may as well piss into the wind persevering with the Brooks

10 missed tackles. It's his only top level attribute and he's starting to suck at that too. Sick of seeing him in a tigers jersey

He needs to be shown the exit
Don’t care about the money

He probably realises that he is on the outer ! His engagement over the last month has been poor !

No one wants him lol