Brooks & Moses Theory

[Geo]

My theory is ..which is as solid as the one on Evolution…In Rugby League it starts with Messers Woods Grant Seumanufagi Sue Lawrence Siro and now Taylor..

When halves have a forward pack that is dominant or at least hold there own against the opposition pack they have the time and space to get the job done...

Correlation does not mean causation..One of Brooks or Moses out isn't the reason we have won or lost...Our Pack of PIGS is...

 

[jirskyr]

The difference is Farah. He was allowed to play his natural game against Souths. He kept their forwards back peddaling and it gave Brooks time and space while also taking some pressure off him.

I understand why JT wanted Farah to take a back seat and let the halves run the show, but you can just throw a rookie halves pairing with a rookie Fullback and tell the experienced hooker to let them sink or swim. Its mindless.

Year 1 should have allowed Farah to play his natural game mostly, but letting thr halves take control close to the line.

This year should've been Farah doing his natural game for 3 tackles and the halves control two, one being the last. Next year should be Ballin at rake distributing to the halves.

Just seemed Farah looked relaxed for the first time this season , that seemed to help

He also made some horrid decisions Farah - going himself from dummy half and losing the ball, or the poor kick at half time which Souths almost returned to the tryline - he had to bat away the last-ditch kick himself.

Farah still making some poor decisions that I would expect of Broses but not a seasoned campaigner.

 

[rex2ce]

I reckon they should swap jumper, Brooks to 6, he's the runner, Moses to 7 , He's the organiser

 

[happy_tiger]

The difference is Farah. He was allowed to play his natural game against Souths. He kept their forwards back peddaling and it gave Brooks time and space while also taking some pressure off him.

I understand why JT wanted Farah to take a back seat and let the halves run the show, but you can just throw a rookie halves pairing with a rookie Fullback and tell the experienced hooker to let them sink or swim. Its mindless.

Year 1 should have allowed Farah to play his natural game mostly, but letting thr halves take control close to the line.

This year should've been Farah doing his natural game for 3 tackles and the halves control two, one being the last. Next year should be Ballin at rake distributing to the halves.

Just seemed Farah looked relaxed for the first time this season , that seemed to help

He also made some horrid decisions Farah - going himself from dummy half and losing the ball, or the poor kick at half time which Souths almost returned to the tryline - he had to bat away the last-ditch kick himself.

Farah still making some poor decisions that I would expect of Broses but not a seasoned campaigner.

But he always does Jirskyr , but this was easily his best performance and as far as I saw he was our 2nd best behind Lawrence

 

[stevetiger]

I reckon they should swap jumper, Brooks to 6, he's the runner, Moses to 7 , He's the organiser

I basically agree but I don't think the position really matters. Langer was at 7 and Lewis at 6 and that was the opposite approach as well.

They both need to improve a lot.

 

[happy_tiger]

I reckon they should swap jumper, Brooks to 6, he's the runner, Moses to 7 , He's the organiser

I basically agree but I don't think the position really matters. Langer was at 7 and Lewis at 6 and that was the opposite approach as well.

They both need to improve a lot.

I can't see Wally or Alf improving much , Alf turns 50 this year and the King's 56

 

[Tigerdon]

I reckon they should swap jumper, Brooks to 6, he's the runner, Moses to 7 , He's the organiser

I basically agree but I don't think the position really matters. Langer was at 7 and Lewis at 6 and that was the opposite approach as well.

They both need to improve a lot.

I can't see Wally or Alf improving much , Alf turns 50 this year and the King's 56

If Cronk's & Thurston arnt fit, Qld will chuck Alf back in there again. Wally's past it.

 

[stevetiger]

I reckon they should swap jumper, Brooks to 6, he's the runner, Moses to 7 , He's the organiser

I basically agree but I don't think the position really matters. Langer was at 7 and Lewis at 6 and that was the opposite approach as well.

They both need to improve a lot.

I can't see Wally or Alf improving much , Alf turns 50 this year and the King's 56

You never know. We could get them back for our 10 year plan.

 

[happy_tiger]

I reckon they should swap jumper, Brooks to 6, he's the runner, Moses to 7 , He's the organiser

I basically agree but I don't think the position really matters. Langer was at 7 and Lewis at 6 and that was the opposite approach as well.

They both need to improve a lot.

I can't see Wally or Alf improving much , Alf turns 50 this year and the King's 56

You never know. We could get them back for our 10 year plan.

I just wish we could get Wally's footy brain into both of them asap 😛ray:

 

[stevetiger]

I basically agree but I don't think the position really matters. Langer was at 7 and Lewis at 6 and that was the opposite approach as well.

They both need to improve a lot.

I can't see Wally or Alf improving much , Alf turns 50 this year and the King's 56

You never know. We could get them back for our 10 year plan.

I just wish we could get Wally's footy brain into both of them asap 😛ray:

That would be great. I remember watching him play for the Gold Coast against Balmain at Leichhardt. He honestly was old, overweight and a smoker who could basically only walk from one play to the next. He just destroyed us. Perfect passes to the right person play after play. He probably had a dud team around him as well. I don't think I've ever seen someone do that apart from Wally.

 

[jirskyr]

The difference is Farah. He was allowed to play his natural game against Souths. He kept their forwards back peddaling and it gave Brooks time and space while also taking some pressure off him.

I understand why JT wanted Farah to take a back seat and let the halves run the show, but you can just throw a rookie halves pairing with a rookie Fullback and tell the experienced hooker to let them sink or swim. Its mindless.

Year 1 should have allowed Farah to play his natural game mostly, but letting thr halves take control close to the line.

This year should've been Farah doing his natural game for 3 tackles and the halves control two, one being the last. Next year should be Ballin at rake distributing to the halves.

Just seemed Farah looked relaxed for the first time this season , that seemed to help

He also made some horrid decisions Farah - going himself from dummy half and losing the ball, or the poor kick at half time which Souths almost returned to the tryline - he had to bat away the last-ditch kick himself.

Farah still making some poor decisions that I would expect of Broses but not a seasoned campaigner.

But he always does Jirskyr , but this was easily his best performance and as far as I saw he was our 2nd best behind Lawrence

Fair enough but I wish he could eliminate those bad plays, we already have enough young kids having brain explosions out there each game.

 

[Black_n_White]

I can't see Wally or Alf improving much , Alf turns 50 this year and the King's 56

You never know. We could get them back for our 10 year plan.

I just wish we could get Wally's footy brain into both of them asap 😛ray:

That would be great. I remember watching him play for the Gold Coast against Balmain at Leichhardt. He honestly was old, overweight and a smoker who could basically only walk from one play to the next. He just destroyed us. Perfect passes to the right person play after play. He probably had a dud team around him as well. I don't think I've ever seen someone do that apart from Wally.

there was an old half that twilighted with the cowboys, something Smith, that could also magically slow a game to his pace and destroy, all while smoking winnie reds and drinking bundy by the bottle. I distinctly remember thinking how he had the same magic as Wally and Johns, in being able to slow the game down matrix style, and see everything before it happened.

 

[happy_tiger]

You never know. We could get them back for our 10 year plan.

I just wish we could get Wally's footy brain into both of them asap 😛ray:

That would be great. I remember watching him play for the Gold Coast against Balmain at Leichhardt. He honestly was old, overweight and a smoker who could basically only walk from one play to the next. He just destroyed us. Perfect passes to the right person play after play. He probably had a dud team around him as well. I don't think I've ever seen someone do that apart from Wally.

there was an old half that twilighted with the cowboys, something Smith, that could also magically slow a game to his pace and destroy, all while smoking winnie reds and drinking bundy by the bottle. I distinctly remember thinking how he had the same magic as Wally and Johns, in being able to slow the game down matrix style, and see everything before it happened.

Jason Smith , Darren Smith's brother

Jason either recently got done for possession or dealing

 

[Black_n_White]

I just wish we could get Wally's footy brain into both of them asap 😛ray:

That would be great. I remember watching him play for the Gold Coast against Balmain at Leichhardt. He honestly was old, overweight and a smoker who could basically only walk from one play to the next. He just destroyed us. Perfect passes to the right person play after play. He probably had a dud team around him as well. I don't think I've ever seen someone do that apart from Wally.

there was an old half that twilighted with the cowboys, something Smith, that could also magically slow a game to his pace and destroy, all while smoking winnie reds and drinking bundy by the bottle. I distinctly remember thinking how he had the same magic as Wally and Johns, in being able to slow the game down matrix style, and see everything before it happened.

Jason Smith , Darren Smith's brother

Jason either recently got done for possession or dealing

thats him…. too bad he couldnt jedi mind trick the coppers like he could a game of footy...

 

[Fade_To_Black]

Time will tell, but don't be so quick to buy into this theory of them playing better without the other.

The only theory I buy into is that they are very average players on big pay packets.
But wait they are only 21\. Wasn't that the same age Foran was when he played in a Grand Final for Manly.
How about playing more than one good game each per season that would be a great start.

Foran had an outstanding pack of forwards laying the platform for him in his early years at Manly.

 

[Tigermama]

Both lads need to take their game down a notch. Brooks had a good game last week by not hitting trick shots at every opportunity. One thing that being the solo half does is force them to be a bit more sensible, a bit more judicious in their play selection, because the other guy isn't there to cover your mistakes.

So Brooks was kicking to the corners, taking the odd run, giving early ball to the runners that were bending the line.

Sure the forwards laid a platform, but it was just a much more mature performance. Problem with Broses is these mature performances are usually several rounds apart. And I know they are still only kids, but they ain't being paid like kids.

To me it is communication. They need to understand each other's games better so when one calls for the ball, the other understands why and goes with the flow. They may need to sit and pour over hours of video of each other's games and discuss why each has made this or that decision. That's my guess, but if they get it together they could be very dangerous.

We've been told, that they know each other's game inside out…Played together as juniors, U18's etc.

 

[Spartan117]

There still Kids

Keep the faith.

 

[WestsSupporter]

Keep the faith.

Is what all the mindless Warriors fan says to justify their team being [NO SWEARING].

 

[Born_tiger]

The forwards will not be going forward with selections like Lovett, Halatau, Sironen and Buchannan… Let's stop picking the team based on friendships with JT lets get some big boys and some big metre-eaters in the team..

The halves are struggling on the back of these plodders and some serious action needs to be taken..

 

[Russell]

The forwards will not be going forward with selections like Lovett, Halatau, Sironen and Buchannan… Let's stop picking the team based on friendships with JT lets get some big boys and some big metre-eaters in the team..

The halves are struggling on the back of these plodders and some serious action needs to be taken..

"lets get some big boys and some big metre-eaters in the team.."

Where are they?

If we haven't got them - how do we afford them?

Easy to say, difficult to do.