Brutally honest opinion on our halves

[stevied]

Moses is definitely the better option. His defense is marginally better and he's a competitor who won't take a backward step. However, his performance on Saturday was very disappointing.

 

[Eddie]

Honestly, the narrative of having two young halves who are best mates and came through the grades together is compelling, but it has hurt both of their development. We needed an experienced play maker who can manage a game to play with one of them for a season and teach them how to organise a win. All of the best halves get this, Cooper Cronk came in playing alongside Scott Hill, JT came through playing with Sherwin, DCE got it from Kieran Foran who in turn got it from Orford, Johnson got it from Maloney, Hunt learned at the hip of Lockyer (even if they weren't halves partners) and is not giving it to Milford. I think we need to cut one loose, and buy a player like Peter Wallace to mentor the other in game management for a couple of seasons.

When it Brooks play his best football??

It was with Anasta by his side at Number 6

Now 90% of the fans were calling Braith useless (including myself)

However with the benefit of hindsight, we won 8 of our first 14 in 2014 with Anasta at 6.

Makes you wonder the talk, organisation and leadership he provided. Even though his best football had long gone.

 

[Tiga89]

Well said Brad Fittler.

He is not afraid to call people out

These players need a reality check.

Taylor might be a dud, however that display falls on the players.

It was embarrassing.

Agreed. The players at times look genuinely scared of the big Raider side running at them. Fittler says how it is. Moses made 7 metres in attack yesterday and didnt take the line on once.

I dislike Taylor as much as the next person but if the player is not committed and plays half hearted like yesterday that is not his fault.

Just shows more evidence the halves are not NRL standard. When they get pressed and put under pressure from bigger fellas they cave in.

Embarrasing.

 

[WestsSupporter]

Here's something nobody's thought of. Through all this crap we've been putting up with, these guys don't seem to get injured. I'm surprised Moses' jaw still works. It goes through the ringer every week.

 

[guyofthetiger]

We could have been beaten by 60 any game this year.

It was inevitable the halves would completely flop eventually.

We are soft.

 

[Russell]

We could have been beaten by 60 any game this year.

It was inevitable the halves would completely flop eventually.

We are soft.

I don't think that is right, Storm would not have put 60 on us for one.

Won't even bother to answer the second line.

 

[snowleopard]

Honestly, the narrative of having two young halves who are best mates and came through the grades together is compelling, but it has hurt both of their development. We needed an experienced play maker who can manage a game to play with one of them for a season and teach them how to organise a win. All of the best halves get this, Cooper Cronk came in playing alongside Scott Hill, JT came through playing with Sherwin, DCE got it from Kieran Foran who in turn got it from Orford, Johnson got it from Maloney, Hunt learned at the hip of Lockyer (even if they weren't halves partners) and is not giving it to Milford. I think we need to cut one loose, and buy a player like Peter Wallace to mentor the other in game management for a couple of seasons.

I think the Brooks/Moses halves combo at the club is broken beyond repair, but both players are salvageable individually. Personally I would hold on to Moses of the two. I think he has shown more potential and improvement. Round 1 and 2 this season showed he can be a match winner at this level.

And therein lies the truth of the matter. The solution drop one of them to Intrust and put rankin to 5/8 and Addo Car on wing. The problem..The club not just JT is too scared to do it until June 30.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Moses would fare better with a steady half. I'd even be inclined to put Moses at 7 and give Rankin at lash in the halves.

 

[gallagher]

Honestly, the narrative of having two young halves who are best mates and came through the grades together is compelling, but it has hurt both of their development. We needed an experienced play maker who can manage a game to play with one of them for a season and teach them how to organise a win. All of the best halves get this, Cooper Cronk came in playing alongside Scott Hill, JT came through playing with Sherwin, DCE got it from Kieran Foran who in turn got it from Orford, Johnson got it from Maloney, Hunt learned at the hip of Lockyer (even if they weren't halves partners) and is not giving it to Milford. I think we need to cut one loose, and buy a player like Peter Wallace to mentor the other in game management for a couple of seasons.

I think the Brooks/Moses halves combo at the club is broken beyond repair, but both players are salvageable individually. Personally I would hold on to Moses of the two. I think he has shown more potential and improvement. Round 1 and 2 this season showed he can be a match winner at this level.

And therein lies the truth of the matter. The solution drop one of them to Intrust and put rankin to 5/8 and Addo Car on wing. The problem..The club not just JT is too scared to do it until June 30.

Yep, the boys are in control of things just like benji and Farah were. Such is the weakness of our club.
They need to tell the managers that the contracts on offer gets $20k taken off it every week from now on until they accept or decline it.

 

[guyofthetiger]

We could have been beaten by 60 any game this year.

It was inevitable the halves would completely flop eventually.

We are soft.

I don't think that is right, Storm would not have put 60 on us for one.

Won't even bother to answer the second line.

Ok, so put another way, we were building to this 'collapse'; the halves were inevitably going to collapse like this.

You keep getting monstered down the middle and fold in defence like we have it will take its toll.

We've put up some strong fights, but this weekend showed where we're really at; where we knew we were at all off season, but were buoyed by a few wins to start with, just as we were last year.

Sure you can blame the halves. But the reality is young halves need to be nurtured through.

We haven't had the starch to provide what was needed. We needed them to carry not be carried.