OFFICIAL Bryce Gibbs [Discussion]

@2041 said:
@Paris Cobbs said:
@Montague Street said:
Robbie re-tweeted a message saying, "sad day for the Tigers, losing Gibbo is a disaster for the club on many fronts."

It is highly unusual that Robbie would go public with his feelings like this. 'a disaster for the club on many fronts.' One of those fronts would be the loss of Bryce's defence, but what are the others"

Sounds to me like he is referring to team/club harmony and loyalty. This Blair business seems to be tearing the team apart. Robbie's comment is surely aimed at management. He sounds very unhappy and this can't be good.

If this really is all coming from the signing of Blair, then I agree, it is a disaster.

If that's true then these blokes, including Farah, ought to man up and try being professionals. It doesn't matter what they're getting paid (personally I don't happen to believe NRL players earn too much, but that's another discussion) - the fact is they are professional footballers and have no right to be [automatically edited] and moaning about who their colleagues are. I've worked at places where my colleagues are my best mates and at others where I'm barely on polite terms with them, and at both I'm there because I'm getting paid to do my job as best I can. Sure it's great to work with people you get on with but that shouldn't affect your performance, and if it does you need to take a long look in the mirror.

If anything, my worry would be that the Tigers are too matey with each other. This season has shown that they certainly believe their own hype. If management has decided the squad needs to be freshened up a bit they certainly have the evidence on the field to back that up - and I include last season in that: for all the talk of how close we came the fact is we were only competing for "best of the rest" and the signs are that where a few clubs have taken another step up this season (Dragons, Manly, maybe Melbourne) we have stagnated or gone backwards. If Farah wanted to keep all his mates around him he should have tried winning some more games. You could make a decent case that we've only played well twice this season and on one of those occasions the oppo rolled over and died, and if that's the best the current squad can do then yes, I would agree that we need changes.

Incidentally, I'm aware I'm being very harsh here given injuries etc, and it is possible that the poor performances have to some extent been caused by uncertainty off the field. But the fact is that they shouldn't have. There are a bunch of players in this squad who must know the next couple of seasons are going to be their best chance of winning a comp, and to lose focus on that because one of your mates might be playing somewhere else next year is crap, quite frankly. I'm not normally one to either criticise players (except Beau Ryan) or to ascribe on-field results to "team harmony" (it's amazing how winning teams develop their own harmony) but on this occasion I really think it's the players' role to shut up and perform.

Great post, and I completely agree.

People are scared of change. Aside from three months in 2005, and about two months last year, this side has been best described as mediocre and inconsistent. Yet everyone is up in arms when some senior players are being moved on.

Heighington, Gibbs and Fulton have been great servants for us but I can understand why they might be moved on. The club is stale and needs a broom put through it, it should have happened a few years ago. Many players are in their comfort zone and know they can underperform yet will still be held in high regard. We have some quality young players coming through and while losing some experienced players may initially put a few noses out of joint, I will back the club on this one. I've criticised them for alot of things in the past but I think it's clear they are trying to re-invigorate the place so I can't bag them for that.
 
It's a Sad Day when a stalwart gets the flick because of an administrative error.
What a great club man - Bryce Gibbs. Heart and Soul of the pack.
 
I have always been a fan of Gibbs even when people were critical of him a few years back. Sad to see him go but it could be a smart decission. He is carrying several chronic injuries which will start to take their toll in future years.

Im very disapointed in Robbie. Benji for skipper imo.

Get these clowns off twitter and any player that has a problem should feel free to look elsewhere.
 
i think people are being harsh on the club, we want them to keep all our juniors, buy big names, but not let anyone go…..cant do it all. I reckon at this point of his career, a big 3 year pay day is probably the best thing for Gibbs, I reckon he will work out better off. He has won a premiership, a blues jersay looks unlikey at this point, a big contract is more important than other footy stuff.

Good luck to him, hope he plays well for the sharkies. Will miss him, but I think we have good young props coming through to replace him
 
The movement of Bryce + others is a phenomenon that happens sooner or later at every club.
I am still confident that we will see a good finish to 2011 (Further Injuries Permitting)

I suppose here at WT we have built a culture over the last 5 years of hanging on to our juniors our main problem now being that we seem to have a wealth of juniors coming through the system
thus we now face salary cap restrictions.

Remember recently we were put under the microscope by Schubert & Co., and subsequently fined for the largest breach of any club for 2010 and although we are fighting this the alarm bells were ringing that we were flying close to the wind.

The purchase of Blair is a good one he will provide leadership for our emerging juniors and much needed dominance in our go forward in an area where we have lacked impact for a long time.

All that being said It's sad to see a guy like Bryce Gibbs go.
I know he will be missed by fans and players alike and I applaud Cronulla for a bit of foresight in this signing as he has plenty of good years left in him.

Fifita is another story, he wants to establish himself as a permanent starting prop and Cronulla afforded him that option, having dug deep for Blair we were not in the ball park to keep him and although it hurts WT have not stood in his way.

2011 still gives these guys an opportunity to go out winners and our youngsters coming through will see the light at NRL level, remember we still have another Fifita up our sleeve sometimes the ones who mature slower are the ones who shine longer.
 
Is Fifita Confirmed beyond a Shadow of a doubt.

I have been offline for a few days.

Cant blame him $100- 150K extra is a truckload of cash.
 
Is Fifita Confirmed beyond a Shadow of a doubt.

I have been offline for a few days.

Cant blame him $100- 150K extra is a truckload of cash.
 
What a massive con job. Those two communicate via Twitter as though no one else has access to their tweets. If I want to chat to a mate, I text or ring them. I don't do it via Twitter
 
I have kept a pretty open mind about this. Now after reading Farahs Twitter comment I am just cranky.

If the players wanted there mates to hang around, then maybe they should have pulled their fingers out and been successful over the past 5 years! They make it sound like Robbie and Benji are victims, but the number of tackles that I have seen those guys miss that have led to tries in the first half of the season is just ridiculous!

If we were winning games then our players wouldn't be shopped around. No blaming Humphrey's or Sheens, it is the players who haven't put in! We are lucky to have won as many games as we have this year. There are a couple of close ones that we could have lost and been near the bottom of the table.

But we are not, we are in the 8\. If that is not enough motivation to turn up against the Warriors on Sunday then they don't deserve to play with their mates any more…....

Thats my rant for the day and now I need a cup of tea!
 
Prepare yourselves with about 15 pinches of salt…but....

chatting to Bryce last night on FB & he says to me that:

a)- he doesn't WANT to leave, but is being forced out- his words- "They stuffed up the salary cap".

b)- Fifita is, according to the conversation, also signed & the tigers hadn't re-signed him.

c)- Liam will follow too soon.

d)..... Heighnington also going. (didn't say to the Sharks- just that he was going - "hino gone too" were his words)

I will admit, my sarcasm radar was way off yesterday, and I was pretty tired, so my judgement was cloudy at best- but Bryce didn't SOUND like he was kidding...maybe he's just getting good at tricking me though. This wasn't a post on his page- this was in chat.

So- 1 of 2 things- either Bryce is ticked off about being 'forced out' of the club & is now feeling free to say as he likes, OR...Bryce is having us all on.

I hope it's option 2, personally.
 
@Chadman's Ghost said:
Prepare yourselves with about 15 pinches of salt…but....

chatting to Bryce last night on FB & he says to me that:

a)- he doesn't WANT to leave, but is being forced out- his words- "They stuffed up the salary cap".

b)- Fifita is, according to the conversation, also signed & the tigers hadn't re-signed him.

c)- Liam will follow too soon.

d)..... Heighnington also going. (didn't say to the Sharks- just that he was going - "hino gone too" were his words)

I will admit, my sarcasm radar was way off yesterday, and I was pretty tired, so my judgement was cloudy at best- but Bryce didn't SOUND like he was kidding...maybe he's just getting good at tricking me though. This wasn't a post on his page- this was in chat.

So- 1 of 2 things- either Bryce is ticked off about being 'forced out' of the club & is now feeling free to say as he likes, OR...Bryce is having us all on.

I hope it's option 2, personally.

I'm assuming you know him or he wouldn't be talking to you on FB chat? Would appear more credible than Twitter if thats the case
 
Thanks for the update Chadman.

I doubt that Heighno will go - I would be massively surprised.

The others I don't care. Gibbs is still the same player that Ogre put on his arse. No bigger, no more skillful and no smarter (still gives away the stupid penalties).

He may go to the Sharks and be the next Josh Perry. Liam too. Good luck to them but I think others deserve a chance to shine at our club.
 
@Chadman's Ghost said:
Prepare yourselves with about 15 pinches of salt…but....

chatting to Bryce last night on FB & he says to me that:

a)- he doesn't WANT to leave, but is being forced out- his words- "They stuffed up the salary cap".

b)- Fifita is, according to the conversation, also signed & the tigers hadn't re-signed him.

c)- Liam will follow too soon.

d)..... Heighnington also going. (didn't say to the Sharks- just that he was going - "hino gone too" were his words)

I will admit, my sarcasm radar was way off yesterday, and I was pretty tired, so my judgement was cloudy at best- but Bryce didn't SOUND like he was kidding...maybe he's just getting good at tricking me though. This wasn't a post on his page- this was in chat.

So- 1 of 2 things- either Bryce is ticked off about being 'forced out' of the club & is now feeling free to say as he likes, OR...Bryce is having us all on.

I hope it's option 2, personally.

Thats what i've been thinking all along. The club simply stuffed up the salary cap. As a result we lose one of the best front row prospects in years who is still only 21 years of age. The fact the club didnt even offer Fifita a contract extension is absolutely disgraceful.

This is poor planning by the club and heads should roll if and Fifita and Heighington are forced out because of this.

Not happy at all!
 
Just to clarify my 'relationship' to Bryce- just FB friends- same as Liam & Galloway.

Very accomodating guys, always up for a chat. I have no special connection- which is why I suggest you arm yourselves with several pinches of salt to go with it…

But...he didn't sound like he was having a leg-pull. I can generally pick it, last night he just sounded P.O'd.

There is always the chance he's gotten one past me here of course...
 
the tele today talks about our salary cap issue as we thought it would go up more then it has

Just a note though - this stuff up doesn't mean we have lost players we wouldn't have anyway if we hadn't stuffed up - as you still only have a certain amount to spend - just means we are releasing some players now instead of never being able to sign for next year in the first place - so the cap issues hasn't cost us players its just that we tried to get even more players and it didn't come off - A risk worth taking for mine
 
We could use a shake up in the Fwds,

I will be sad if Fifita and Highno move on.

I'm confident in the guys who are steering the WT ship to make the right decisions armed with all the facts and years of experience.
 
If all this is true - i.e. that we are losing Gibbs, Fulton, Rhino, A Fifita, and Lui in one go, then that is extremely poor. Throw in the fact we're signing a big name player makes it look worse. Gibbs, Fulton, and even Lui I could see - at the moment we have amazing depth and something has to give. Fifita is maybe a money thing - if someone is prepared to pay massive overs what can you do? Rhino would be extremely hard to accept. Personally I think the truth is more to do with multiple players being shopped but only some of them will be off-loaded. If Gibbs, Fifita, Lui, and Fulton are going I don’t see the need for Rhino to go. But all these guys are under contract so if one of them refused to leave I guess you need a plan B. Who knows? The silence is deafening and I’m yet to see anything from Humphries or Sheens about the whole thing.
 
I'm a little ticked about the possibility of losing Fifita, I'd be mightily annoyed about losing Rhino as well

EDIT and if it comes to light that the club has indeed stuffed up along the way, surely heads should roll somewhere in admin?
 
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