Cameron Smith : Are you a salary cap cheating dog?

[Bones]

exactly - he's not an accountant

He does look like one though.

 

[spearby]

give us a break the club is responsible for the salary cap NOT THE PLAYERS smith is one of the of the great players will be an immortal when he retires

 

[mctiger]

There's never been any evidence to suggest any player knew that they were over the cap. Would Robbie Farah know the in's and out's of what every player in the squad is on, and have the knowledge to know we'd be over the cap? I highly doubt it.

Storm players signed 2 seperate contracts-if you don't think that is cheating then I would love to live on your planet. Cheats are cheats,,, Inglis, Smith, Slater, Gallen etc are all only still playing in the NRL because of their profile…the NRL are a corrupt organization that rewards corruption. Prove differently if you disagree.

So the player manager says to Smith at a later stage , you have got a contract upgrade ??

How would the player know different FTB ??

The player wouldn't give two hoots , show me the money ??

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If you get the chance I highly recommend reading the book Storm Cloud: The Real Story Behind Melbourne Storms Demise and Resurrection. It details the whole salary cap cheating scandal. Personally I can't see how the players would not have been aware that it was a bit strange the way there own contracts were managed. Certainly the player managers were aware and were punished.

It also gives an interesting insight as to how the salary cap is managed by clubs and the issues that they face.

 

[Tiger_Watto]

I wish the Tigers could afford to cheat the Salary Cap!

 

[spearby]

There's never been any evidence to suggest any player knew that they were over the cap. Would Robbie Farah know the in's and out's of what every player in the squad is on, and have the knowledge to know we'd be over the cap? I highly doubt it.

Storm players signed 2 seperate contracts-if you don't think that is cheating then I would love to live on your planet. Cheats are cheats,,, Inglis, Smith, Slater, Gallen etc are all only still playing in the NRL because of their profile…the NRL are a corrupt organization that rewards corruption. Prove differently if you disagree.

So the player manager says to Smith at a later stage , you have got a contract upgrade ??

How would the player know different FTB ??

The player wouldn't give two hoots , show me the money ??

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If you get the chance I highly recommend reading the book Storm Cloud: The Real Story Behind Melbourne Storms Demise and Resurrection. It details the whole salary cap cheating scandal. Personally I can't see how the players would not have been aware that it was a bit strange the way there own contracts were managed. Certainly the player managers were aware and were punished.

It also gives an interesting insight as to how the salary cap is managed by clubs and the issues that they face.

ok may I ask you what would you do if you were in smiths shoes I know not me keep your money b/s

 

[fergiefurr]

All the people defending Smith are completely ignorant and using illegitament excuses that Smiths mates in the media use.

It doesnt matter if Smith knew they were well over the cap or not, even if he didnt what they were doing was highly illegal. The players were signing two contracts, one registered by the NRL, one not.

The other thing to remember is that Cameron Smith IS HIS OWN MANAGER!!! The only people who were punished in all of this mess were the player managers, yet Smith got off completely scott free and has never ONCE been questioned in the media about it. It was widely acknowleged that the managers knew exactly what was going on, why wasnt Smith punished for his role then?

Not to mention that the Storm players involved genuinaly believe they are the victims in all of this and have never once admitted being in the wrong. They openly say they deserved the Premierships becuase they 'worked hard.' Of course they did!! Yet so did every other team in the comp, and they didnt have the unfair advantage that the Storm did.

 

[Fade_To_Black]

Well said fergiefurr, nothing explains it better than the truth. I am sure the clueless on here will still debate that Smith isn't a cheat.

 

[Fade_To_Black]

The unprovoked aggression you are showing is pretty unecessary ftb. We're all friends here

'Aggression'!? If you are serious then WOW just about sums it up. Embarrassing.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

When you hold a grudge and allow it to consume you like Smith and co consume you ftb it's not healthy. All that pent up rage and anger Is only hurting you. You gotta drop that big bag of rocks sooner or later

 

[Fade_To_Black]

If I dislike something I dislike it or them, I don't just put my tree-hugger hat on and pretend I like it. Every time I see or hear cheatin Cam Smith I want to punch holes in things. That is healthy! If you want to live life thinking everything and everyone is fantastic then that is your choice,good luck with it. Cameron Smith is a cheat…bottom line.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Fair enough, but why are we rehashing it 5 yrs later? Hardly think anything said in this thread won't be anything that has already been said 100 times over the last 5 yrs. Old news.

 

[Goose]

This is old news.

Im confident that some players knew what was going on.

Cooper cronk had a special clause in his contract saying that all payments were to be reported. He obviously suspected something.

I feel slightly aggrieved that Smith has this aura of holier than thou statesman in the game, I dont think he deserves it.

That said, it is well and truely time to move on….

 

[Tigermama]

Sooner or later you got to let the hate go, cos the only person its hurting is you.

Wise words GNR. Very similar to what AHX would post! :wink:

 

[happy_tiger]

If I dislike something I dislike it or them, I don't just put my tree-hugger hat on and pretend I like it. Every time I see or hear cheatin Cam Smith I want to punch holes in things. That is healthy! If you want to live life thinking everything and everyone is fantastic then that is your choice,good luck with it. Cameron Smith is a cheat…bottom line.

And if it was the WT's and Farah people would be burying it under the carpet

I'll have to get this book and have a read , maybe it can fill in the many gaps of what we don't know

But FTB if you are saying that Smith knew every player on the books salary you are kidding yourself

I wouldn't tell my parents how much I earn every year , let alone a bloke I play footy with

 

[Tigermama]

give us a break the club is responsible for the salary cap NOT THE PLAYERS smith is one of the of the great players will be an immortal when he retires

Smith an immortal? Great… that's something to get excited about :unamused:

 

[mctiger]

The other thing to remember is that Cameron Smith IS HIS OWN MANAGER!!! The only people who were punished in all of this mess were the player managers, yet Smith got off completely scott free and has never ONCE been questioned in the media about it. It was widely acknowleged that the managers knew exactly what was going on, why wasnt Smith punished for his role then?

Actually, according to the book he split with his manager in 2008 however as his contract was being renegotiated he signed up with Isaac Moses from Titan Management and he negotiated with the Storm for the period 2009-2013.

 

[Newtown]

Fair enough, but why are we rehashing it 5 yrs later? Hardly think anything said in this thread won't be anything that has already been said 100 times over the last 5 yrs. Old news.

If that is old news what about the hate against Manly that still keeps cropping up after the poaching they were perceived to have carried out at least 30 years ago.

 

[happy_tiger]

All the people defending Smith are completely ignorant and using illegitament excuses that Smiths mates in the media use.

It doesnt matter if Smith knew they were well over the cap or not, even if he didnt what they were doing was highly illegal. The players were signing two contracts, one registered by the NRL, one not.

The other thing to remember is that Cameron Smith IS HIS OWN MANAGER!!! The only people who were punished in all of this mess were the player managers, yet Smith got off completely scott free and has never ONCE been questioned in the media about it. It was widely acknowleged that the managers knew exactly what was going on, why wasnt Smith punished for his role then?

Not to mention that the Storm players involved genuinaly believe they are the victims in all of this and have never once admitted being in the wrong. They openly say they deserved the Premierships becuase they 'worked hard.' Of course they did!! Yet so did every other team in the comp, and they didnt have the unfair advantage that the Storm did.

What's to say FF that the club acted like they were giving an initial contract to Smith and then a few days later then write another contract saying they were giving him extra money and signing another contract ??

Would you as a player then question what was happening to the original contract ?? Show me the money

The problem with all of this is it was way too risky for the club having players know that they have two contracts With how quickly things can breakdown between CEO's , players and coaches in the modern game (Farah and Mayer is a great example ) that the club could be destroyed

Players could hold clubs to absolute ransom with that sort of info

I'm sorry I just don't buy into it

 

[hobbo]

All the people defending Smith are completely ignorant and using illegitament excuses that Smiths mates in the media use.

It doesnt matter if Smith knew they were well over the cap or not, even if he didnt what they were doing was highly illegal. The players were signing two contracts, one registered by the NRL, one not.

The other thing to remember is that Cameron Smith IS HIS OWN MANAGER!!! The only people who were punished in all of this mess were the player managers, yet Smith got off completely scott free and has never ONCE been questioned in the media about it. It was widely acknowleged that the managers knew exactly what was going on, why wasnt Smith punished for his role then?

Not to mention that the Storm players involved genuinaly believe they are the victims in all of this and have never once admitted being in the wrong. They openly say they deserved the Premierships becuase they 'worked hard.' Of course they did!! Yet so did every other team in the comp, and they didnt have the unfair advantage that the Storm did.

What's to say FF that the club acted like they were giving an initial contract to Smith and then a few days later then write another contract saying they were giving him extra money and signing another contract ??

Would you as a player then question what was happening to the original contract ?? Show me the money

The problem with all of this is it was way too risky for the club having players know that they have two contracts With how quickly things can breakdown between CEO's , players and coaches in the modern game (Farah and Mayer is a great example ) that the club could be destroyed

Players could hold clubs to absolute ransom with that sort of info

I'm sorry I just don't buy into it

We all know he's innocent ….....
HE'S A QUEENSLANDER :unamused:

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[happy_tiger]

Fair enough, but why are we rehashing it 5 yrs later? Hardly think anything said in this thread won't be anything that has already been said 100 times over the last 5 yrs. Old news.

If that is old news what about the hate against Manly that still keeps cropping up after the poaching they were perceived to have carried out at least 30 years ago.

Manly has no one anyone likes , even their own family can't stand them

Storm have likable players everywhere at SOO time :sunglasses: